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Did the Passion Kill Jim Caviziel's career?
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Author:  El Maskado [ Tue Jan 18, 2005 9:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Did the Passion Kill Jim Caviziel's career?
Mel Gibson isnt really kidding when he told Jim Caviziel that if he accepted the role of Jesus he would never work in hollywood. Movies like Highwaymen,I am David, and Bobby Jones were made before Passion was ever released. His database has nothing lined up for him at all and normally its not normal at all for someone not to have anything lined in production for close to a year. I know Im liberal at most times but if its true that he would never find work again, its very hyprocritical of hollywood to blacklist a guy like that

The guy was doing fine with Thin Red Line,Count of Monte Crisco and Frequency. His work just suddenly stopped
Author:  makeshift [ Tue Jan 18, 2005 9:39 pm ]
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I don't think it's blacklisting so much as it is him being seen as Jesus and Jesus only. Normally, when actors get a huge role playing a character of extreme importance like that, it's hard to break the image. He should take a year or two off and come back with a completely different role that shows of his acting chops.
Author:  zingy [ Tue Jan 18, 2005 9:41 pm ]
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Hey, atleast he's in one of the highest grossing movies ever. A big part of it, too. :razz:
Author:  Eagle [ Tue Jan 18, 2005 10:04 pm ]
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No.

He will not be type cast for this. He will deffinatly be able to grab more roles, and I think it is smart of him not to just take whatever he can get.

Wait for the right role, and he will be fine.
Author:  El Maskado [ Tue Jan 18, 2005 10:04 pm ]
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Zingaling wrote:
Hey, atleast he's in one of the highest grossing movies ever. A big part of it, too. :razz:


Yes but its not him that gets any of the money, its all Mel. Im sure Jim probably got paid less than $500,000 to take on the role. I guess he really got the bitterend of the deal while Mel comes off as filthy rich. Poor guy's going to end up like born-again christian Chris Odonnell who hasnt been seen in anything lately
Author:  Mister Ecks [ Tue Jan 18, 2005 10:11 pm ]
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Eagle wrote:
No.

He will not be type cast for this. He will deffinatly be able to grab more roles, and I think it is smart of him not to just take whatever he can get.

Wait for the right role, and he will be fine.


Typecast? How could he be typecast? As Jesus again? Perhaps as Moses or Buddha? \:D/
Author:  Eagle [ Tue Jan 18, 2005 10:14 pm ]
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type cast meaning ...

if he gets another role people will go to the movie and not be able to get over the fact that it is jesus
Author:  andaroo1 [ Tue Jan 18, 2005 10:19 pm ]
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He wasn't a huge star with huge big movies he was known in before Passion of the Christ, and it failed to make Cavaziel a big star after it. It would be one thing if he had a stellar career before Passion but honestly, with the small bump of Frequency, there wasn't much there he that he carried.

He could be doing personal stuff at the moment, he could be taking a break.

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Mel Gibson isnt really kidding when he told Jim Caviziel that if he accepted the role of Jesus he would never work in hollywood.

Mel Gibson was just playing partisan, as he did the entire time before The Passion of the Christ hit, stirring up shit to polarize the audience so it became a "must see" event then blaming it all on Hollywood and the Jews. He was on the O'Reiliey factor complaining MONTHS before any Passion controversy hit.

There is no proof that there is any blacklist of Cavaziel, show me the proof and I will be outraged.
Author:  Mister Ecks [ Tue Jan 18, 2005 10:40 pm ]
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Eagle wrote:
type cast meaning ...

if he gets another role people will go to the movie and not be able to get over the fact that it is jesus


Good enough. :wink:
Author:  Groucho [ Tue Jan 18, 2005 10:51 pm ]
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andaroo wrote:
He wasn't a huge star with huge big movies he was known in before Passion of the Christ, and it failed to make Cavaziel a big star after it. It would be one thing if he had a stellar career before Passion but honestly, with the small bump of Frequency, there wasn't much there he that he carried.

He could be doing personal stuff at the moment, he could be taking a break.

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Mel Gibson isnt really kidding when he told Jim Caviziel that if he accepted the role of Jesus he would never work in hollywood.

Mel Gibson was just playing partisan, as he did the entire time before The Passion of the Christ hit, stirring up shit to polarize the audience so it became a "must see" event then blaming it all on Hollywood and the Jews. He was on the O'Reiliey factor complaining MONTHS before any Passion controversy hit.

There is no proof that there is any blacklist of Cavaziel, show me the proof and I will be outraged.


Absolutely. I agree 100%.

If you check out his IMDB page, you can see that he has been in a few movies every year, none of which (except Passion) are huge Box Office successes. The two films he did past Passion were Bobby Jones and Rebels, both flops.
Author:  El Maskado [ Tue Jan 18, 2005 10:59 pm ]
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Mike Ventrella wrote:
andaroo wrote:
He wasn't a huge star with huge big movies he was known in before Passion of the Christ, and it failed to make Cavaziel a big star after it. It would be one thing if he had a stellar career before Passion but honestly, with the small bump of Frequency, there wasn't much there he that he carried.

He could be doing personal stuff at the moment, he could be taking a break.

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Mel Gibson isnt really kidding when he told Jim Caviziel that if he accepted the role of Jesus he would never work in hollywood.

Mel Gibson was just playing partisan, as he did the entire time before The Passion of the Christ hit, stirring up shit to polarize the audience so it became a "must see" event then blaming it all on Hollywood and the Jews. He was on the O'Reiliey factor complaining MONTHS before any Passion controversy hit.

There is no proof that there is any blacklist of Cavaziel, show me the proof and I will be outraged.


Absolutely. I agree 100%.

If you check out his IMDB page, you can see that he has been in a few movies every year, none of which (except Passion) are huge Box Office successes. The two films he did past Passion were Bobby Jones and Rebels, both flops.

Bobby Jones was made before he did the Passion.Samething with Final Cut. Im not sure about Rebels but I think its just a made for cable movie judging from the director's resume.

Like I said, he had steady work with Thin Red Line, Frequency and Count of Monte Crisco. It looks like he hasnt had anything in production for a year now. Heck hes the only guy who campaigned to get the Superman role and didnt get it while other actors like Josh Harnett and Jude Law turned down the role. Since he was trying to grab the Superman role, it doesnt look like he was trying to take a break at all
Author:  Ahmed Johnson [ Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:01 am ]
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El_masked_esteROIDe_user wrote:
Zingaling wrote:
Hey, atleast he's in one of the highest grossing movies ever. A big part of it, too. :razz:


Yes but its not him that gets any of the money, its all Mel. Im sure Jim probably got paid less than $500,000 to take on the role. I guess he really got the bitterend of the deal while Mel comes off as filthy rich. Poor guy's going to end up like born-again christian Chris Odonnell who hasnt been seen in anything lately



WHAT IS O'DONNELL'S TALE?


The One Ahmed Johnson why only recently, pondered his absence from the silver screens... :-k
Author:  andaroo1 [ Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:29 am ]
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El_masked_esteROIDe_user wrote:
Im sure Jim probably got paid less than $500,000 to take on the role.

Are we his accountant now?

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I guess he really got the bitterend of the deal while Mel comes off as filthy rich.

What?

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Poor guy's going to end up like born-again christian Chris Odonnell who hasnt been seen in anything lately

Except of course that Kinsey movie.

Oh, and that Cock and Bull movie which comes out next year, about a woman (Sarah Polly) who is married to Chris O'Donnell and grows a fully functioning penis. So much for Christianity!
Author:  Algren [ Wed Jan 19, 2005 9:26 am ]
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I think he's taking some timeout, he can do that after being in the biggest R rated film ever!

If I were him, i wouldnt want to work for a while.
Author:  Algren [ Wed Jan 19, 2005 9:27 am ]
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He is not type-cast btw.
Author:  NCAR [ Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:03 pm ]
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The Count of Monte Christo was an excellent, if small-budget, film in which Caviezel played an powerful lead.
Author:  wertham [ Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:16 pm ]
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There's a most dreaded curse against all those actors foolish enough to play that one-and-only King of Kings, Son of God and Saviour of Mankind, none other than Jesus H. Christ Himself.

After all, look what happened to Jeffrey Hunter. (And he coulda had his own starship!)
Author:  Snrub [ Wed Jan 19, 2005 1:00 pm ]
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Willem Dafoe did okay after The Last Temptation of Christ. But then that film was hardly popular among Christians, plus Dafoe chose his subsequent roles wisely, nabbing quirky supporting parts in films by maverick auteurs like Oliver Stone, David Lynch and John Waters.

The answer's probably for Caviezel to drop the leading man part of his resumé (at least for the time being), and get himself cast as far against type as possible. He needs to play a lecherous, bigoted alcoholic with a fetish for 12 year old boys underpants in a film directed by David Cronenberg. Or Michael Winner!!
Author:  El Maskado [ Wed Jan 19, 2005 1:13 pm ]
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Snrub wrote:

The answer's probably for Caviezel to drop the leading man part of his resumé (at least for the time being), and get himself cast as far against type as possible. He needs to play a lecherous, bigoted alcoholic with a fetish for 12 year old boys underpants in a film directed by David Cronenberg. Or Michael Winner!!


Victor Salva or Roman Polanksi can be up for directing instead
Author:  andaroo1 [ Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:35 pm ]
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wertham wrote:
There's a most dreaded curse against all those actors foolish enough to play that one-and-only King of Kings, Son of God and Saviour of Mankind, none other than Jesus H. Christ Himself.

Poor Willem Dafoe.
Author:  MovieDude [ Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:10 pm ]
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Jim Caviezel had a career BEFORE The Passion of the Christ? :lol:
Author:  wertham [ Wed Jan 19, 2005 9:37 pm ]
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andaroo wrote:
wertham wrote:
There's a most dreaded curse against all those actors foolish enough to play that one-and-only King of Kings, Son of God and Saviour of Mankind, none other than Jesus H. Christ Himself.

Poor Willem Dafoe.


Indeed. Now he's forever doomed to play the bad guy. :???:

Then there's Max von Sydow, Zalman King, Ted Neeley (?), Chris Sarandon, Robert Powell...
Author:  Snrub [ Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:01 pm ]
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wertham wrote:
andaroo wrote:
wertham wrote:
There's a most dreaded curse against all those actors foolish enough to play that one-and-only King of Kings, Son of God and Saviour of Mankind, none other than Jesus H. Christ Himself.

Poor Willem Dafoe.


Indeed. Now he's forever doomed to play the bad guy. :???:

Then there's Max von Sydow, Zalman King, Ted Neeley (?), Chris Sarandon, Robert Powell...


Oh come now, Willem Dafoe wasn't exactly well known for playing heroes before he took on the part of Jesus. The guy was born to play villains! For one, he looks like a gargoyle, and for two, his name is Willem Dafoe! If his name was Willem Dagoodguy, then maybe you'd have something. As it is, he should consider himself lucky he's had the chance to play a few good guys in his career (Mississippi Burning, Body of Evidence, Clear and Present Danger, American Psycho).

As for the others, well they've all had very different careers. Some more successful than others. But I'd hardly say they were confined to playing bad guys. Max Von Sydow played Father Merrin in the Exorcist post Jesus. Chris Sarandon was a heroic detective in - a personal childhood favourite - Child's Play.
Author:  wertham [ Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:17 pm ]
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Snrub wrote:
Oh come now, Willem Dafoe wasn't exactly well known for playing heroes before he took on the part of Jesus. The guy was born to play villains! For one, he looks like a gargoyle, and for two, his name is Willem Dafoe! If his name was Willem Dagoodguy, then maybe you'd have something.




Image

=D>
Author:  andaroo1 [ Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:28 pm ]
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Hahahhahahaha...
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