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TonyMontana wrote:

I'd agree with the Matrix personally, but doubt it'll go down as the best trilogy per popular opinion.

The original Star Wars trilogy, the Godfater trilogy, and Indiana Jones would all probably come in higher.

Algren wrote:

TonyMontana wrote:

Well, The Godfather trilogy i agree with, will probably go down as the best ever. sad, but true. The Indiana Jones trilogy will not be a trilogy for much longer, so that cant be included. Star Wars isnt a trilogy either, onl because 3 prequels have been made later on, doesnt make the original three films a trilogy, its 6 films, not 3.

Rogue, no, it cant be, its NOT a trilogy, i do not care who or how many people say it is, it isnt.

Algren wrote:

I was thinking the other day about what will be thought of as the best trilogy ever ever (in say, 2100 AD), and i thought of LOTR, but they struck me as being thought of as too easy to copy or be copied, whereas The Matrix Trilogy is so original its unbelieveable!

Not what is YOUR favourite, but what would be considered the definitive trilogy of our time.

What would everyone else say?

RogueCommander wrote:

18 parts? Are you serious? Never seen it, and don't have an interest in it, personally.

Ripper wrote:

Yes, LOTR is easy to copy, since it came out that's what fantasy authors have been doing copying it.

Why is that The Matrix is orginal, please showcase for wher the story, plot, chracters were so wildly different.

Neuromancer

This book come long before the matrix and contains many of the ideas seen it. While I liek the orgianl matrix film, to call it orginal flees inteh face of years of science fiction that came before it.

TonyMontana wrote:

I also don't consider SW to be a true trilogy, but I'm afraid it'll go down in history that way - like it, or not.

By the hardcore definition of a trilogy, it'd be between the Godfather, LOTR, and the Matrix at this point. While I prefer the Matrix, I fear that LOTR and the Godfather would beat it out in terms of public perception.

Algren wrote:

TonyMontana wrote:

I would agree with this post 100%, esp the bold.

@ Rogue.... We all have our favourites, mine would be Rambo trilogy, but that aint gonna happen

Also, yeh i thought there were only 7 parts to Police Academy also :???:

Algren wrote:

TonyMontana wrote:

I would agree with this post 100%, esp the bold.

@ Rogue.... We all have our favourites, mine would be Rambo trilogy, but that aint gonna happen

Also, yeh i thought there were only 7 parts to Police Academy also :???:

Author:	Algren [ Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:17 am ]
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I was thinking the other day about what will be thought of as the best trilogy ever ever (in say, 2100 AD), and i thought of LOTR, but they struck me as being thought of as too easy to copy or be copied, whereas The Matrix Trilogy is so original its unbelieveable! Not what is YOUR favourite, but what would be considered the definitive trilogy of our time. What would everyone else say?

Author:	Heinrich Himmler [ Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:39 am ]
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best trilogies: godfather trilogy leones dollars trilogy kieslowskis colours trilogy star wars trilogy the godfather may be the best of them

Author:	Jeff [ Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:58 am ]
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Best Trilogies (By Grades) Star Wars: Trilogy 1 A New Hope -- A- The Empire Strikes Back -- A Return of the Jedi -- B+ Trilogy Grade -- A- Scream: Scream: A Scream 2: B+ Scream 3: B Trilogy Grade -- B+ The Matrix: The Matrix: A+ The Matrix Reloaded: C+ The Matrix Revolutions: B Trilogy Grade -- B+ The Lord of the Rings The Fellowship of the Ring -- A- The Two Towers -- B- The Return of the King -- B+ Trilogy Grade -- B

Author:	Algren [ Mon Jan 10, 2005 2:11 pm ]
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Mind you, this isnt what YOU think is the best,i am asking what you think will be classed as the best in years to come. I think The Matrix trilogy could well be voted the best ever, but im nto sure.

Author:	TonyMontana [ Mon Jan 10, 2005 2:37 pm ]
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I'd agree with the Matrix personally, but doubt it'll go down as the best trilogy per popular opinion. The original Star Wars trilogy, the Godfater trilogy, and Indiana Jones would all probably come in higher.

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Author:	Jeff [ Mon Jan 10, 2005 2:44 pm ]
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I think it has been and mostly likely will remain the original Star Wars Trilogy.

Author:	Algren [ Mon Jan 10, 2005 2:47 pm ]
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TonyMontana wrote: I'd agree with the Matrix personally, but doubt it'll go down as the best trilogy per popular opinion. The original Star Wars trilogy, the Godfater trilogy, and Indiana Jones would all probably come in higher. Well, The Godfather trilogy i agree with, will probably go down as the best ever. sad, but true. The Indiana Jones trilogy will not be a trilogy for much longer, so that cant be included. Star Wars isnt a trilogy either, onl because 3 prequels have been made later on, doesnt make the original three films a trilogy, its 6 films, not 3. Rogue, no, it cant be, its NOT a trilogy, i do not care who or how many people say it is, it isnt.

Author:	TonyMontana [ Mon Jan 10, 2005 2:51 pm ]
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Algren wrote: TonyMontana wrote: I'd agree with the Matrix personally, but doubt it'll go down as the best trilogy per popular opinion. The original Star Wars trilogy, the Godfater trilogy, and Indiana Jones would all probably come in higher. Well, The Godfather trilogy i agree with, will probably go down as the best ever. sad, but true. The Indiana Jones trilogy will not be a trilogy for much longer, so that cant be included. Star Wars isnt a trilogy either, onl because 3 prequels have been made later on, doesnt make the original three films a trilogy, its 6 films, not 3. Rogue, no, it cant be, its NOT a trilogy, i do not care who or how many people say it is, it isnt. I also don't consider SW to be a true trilogy, but I'm afraid it'll go down in history that way - like it, or not. By the hardcore definition of a trilogy, it'd be between the Godfather, LOTR, and the Matrix at this point. While I prefer the Matrix, I fear that LOTR and the Godfather would beat it out in terms of public perception.

Author:	Jeff [ Mon Jan 10, 2005 2:51 pm ]
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Good point. Well, guess Star will be the best Sextilogy ever...eh? I think it will be The Godfather then (I haven't seen them though). I'd pick Scream, as that is my favorite, but it doesn't receive all the acclaim it deserves.

Author:	TonyMontana [ Mon Jan 10, 2005 2:57 pm ]
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It's just too bad that Police Academy didn't stop at 3, as that would be the best trilogy ever. As it stands it's the best 18 part movie series ever, I'd say.

Author:	Ripper [ Mon Jan 10, 2005 2:58 pm ]
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Algren wrote: I was thinking the other day about what will be thought of as the best trilogy ever ever (in say, 2100 AD), and i thought of LOTR, but they struck me as being thought of as too easy to copy or be copied, whereas The Matrix Trilogy is so original its unbelieveable! Not what is YOUR favourite, but what would be considered the definitive trilogy of our time. What would everyone else say? Yes, LOTR is easy to copy, since it came out that's what fantasy authors have been doing copying it. Why is that The Matrix is orginal, please showcase for wher the story, plot, chracters were so wildly different. Neuromancer This book come long before the matrix and contains many of the ideas seen it. While I liek the orgianl matrix film, to call it orginal flees inteh face of years of science fiction that came before it.

Author:	Jeff [ Mon Jan 10, 2005 2:58 pm ]
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18 parts? Are you serious? Never seen it, and don't have an interest in it, personally.

Author:	TonyMontana [ Mon Jan 10, 2005 3:04 pm ]
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RogueCommander wrote: 18 parts? Are you serious? Never seen it, and don't have an interest in it, personally. You're missing the greatest single experience you'll ever have in your entire life! Rent all 18 and make a day of it. You'll laugh, you'll cry, and you'll thank me later. These movies will complete your life. I may be exaggerating... slightly.

Author:	Algren [ Mon Jan 10, 2005 3:05 pm ]
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Ripper wrote: Yes, LOTR is easy to copy, since it came out that's what fantasy authors have been doing copying it. Why is that The Matrix is orginal, please showcase for wher the story, plot, chracters were so wildly different. Neuromancer This book come long before the matrix and contains many of the ideas seen it. While I liek the orgianl matrix film, to call it orginal flees inteh face of years of science fiction that came before it. Ive never heard of that book, but i see, its not original, unless its a coincidence, but i doubt it.

Author:	BacktotheFuture [ Mon Jan 10, 2005 4:25 pm ]
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You guys are nuts. BTTF > ALL.

Author:	torrino [ Mon Jan 10, 2005 4:43 pm ]
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No, The Matrix will never be known as THE best trilogy. Let's consider this, shall we. It isn't very often that a film, may it be Get Carter, Dumb and Dumberer, American Wedding, or Police Academy 4, gets a bad PUBLIC reputation. There's only a handful of recent movies I can think of: Alexander, The Matrix Revolutions, and Catwoman (suprisingly, all are overbudgeted WB releases). Why, then, would a film trilogy with a film that the majority of people slammed (and, let's be honest with ourselves here, did this REALLY get a good rep?), become a classic a couple years from now? It won't. Here's why... 20 years from now, The Matrix will still be on TV. It'll be known as a good, fun action flick that has been done and redone time and time again. Nothing mindblowing, nothing spectacular, but good. Only when some geek mentions the history of the film and effects back in the day, in a time where the latest Dakota Fanning romantic comedy has better CGI of a high-tech water fountain in an imaginary Vegas, will people truly consider the history of the film. Only a few of the new teens will go out of their way to rent "The Matrix Reloaded", and, when they do, it'll be without the hype and memories of the classic first that surrounded the sequel back almost two years ago. Most likely, it'll bore 'em. And, when a few of them check out "The Matrix Revolutions", they'll be left with nothing. The reason so many of us still standby the Matrix Trilogy is simply because of our memories of the original (effects-wise, Ripper) status of the first. It's a movie we grew up with. And, it's a good movie. It'll have a fanbase, but the fanbase will only stick by the 1999 film, again, solely because of timing. The fact is, "The Matrix Reloaded" and "The Matrix Revolutions" are too involved with the typical action movie formula that they drain out any substance that makes them enjoyable. While we, in '03, liked them, they didn't break new ground and don't have the history of breaking new ground (besides, perhaps, worst legs, for those future '23/24/25-ers who'll adopt our little fetish). Now, if say, TNT or TBS buys the rights to the two sequels, there's no way in hell that it'll have a remotely good reputation as a trilogy. People will see the sequels first, and not even consider the original... The LOTR trilogy can stand the test of time, simply because it's a well-made trilogy that'll always be pushed by the studio. And, it's a Best Picture winner, and those ALWAYS stay around. Whether it'll be the "best" is unknown, but it won't get the same differing reputation that The Matrix will get in the future.

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Author:	Jeff [ Mon Jan 10, 2005 3:06 pm ]
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I thought so. According to IMDB, there are only 7 parts.

Author:	Algren [ Mon Jan 10, 2005 3:09 pm ]
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TonyMontana wrote: I also don't consider SW to be a true trilogy, but I'm afraid it'll go down in history that way - like it, or not. By the hardcore definition of a trilogy, it'd be between the Godfather, LOTR, and the Matrix at this point. While I prefer the Matrix, I fear that LOTR and the Godfather would beat it out in terms of public perception. I would agree with this post 100%, esp the bold. @ Rogue.... We all have our favourites, mine would be Rambo trilogy, but that aint gonna happen Also, yeh i thought there were only 7 parts to Police Academy also :???:

Author:	TonyMontana [ Mon Jan 10, 2005 3:18 pm ]
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Algren wrote: TonyMontana wrote: I also don't consider SW to be a true trilogy, but I'm afraid it'll go down in history that way - like it, or not. By the hardcore definition of a trilogy, it'd be between the Godfather, LOTR, and the Matrix at this point. While I prefer the Matrix, I fear that LOTR and the Godfather would beat it out in terms of public perception. I would agree with this post 100%, esp the bold. @ Rogue.... We all have our favourites, mine would be Rambo trilogy, but that aint gonna happen Also, yeh i thought there were only 7 parts to Police Academy also :???: Ok, there were only 7 parts to Police Academy. But, you have to watch each one 2.57 times to figure out the plot as it is so incredibly deep with mythical and philosophical references.

Author:	Jeff [ Mon Jan 10, 2005 3:24 pm ]
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Algren wrote: TonyMontana wrote: I also don't consider SW to be a true trilogy, but I'm afraid it'll go down in history that way - like it, or not. By the hardcore definition of a trilogy, it'd be between the Godfather, LOTR, and the Matrix at this point. While I prefer the Matrix, I fear that LOTR and the Godfather would beat it out in terms of public perception. I would agree with this post 100%, esp the bold. @ Rogue.... We all have our favourites, mine would be Rambo trilogy, but that aint gonna happen Also, yeh i thought there were only 7 parts to Police Academy also :???: We should collect all the "trilogies" out there (Only Trilogies though) and have a vote...!

Author:	neo_wolf [ Mon Jan 10, 2005 4:17 pm ]
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LOTR and SW OT will be THE trilogies.The Godfather ended with a shitty third film and the matrix 2 and 3 were shit films.

Author:	zingy [ Mon Jan 10, 2005 4:20 pm ]
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The Matrix is the best trilogy ever. Period.

Author:	Eagle [ Mon Jan 10, 2005 4:31 pm ]
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I would consider Episodes 1-3 a trilogy and Episodes 3-6 a trilogy, if that makes any sense.

Author:	Mister Ecks [ Mon Jan 10, 2005 5:18 pm ]
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Tough to say. I mean LOTR is a pretty big favorite amongst many people, but so is the original Star Wars trilogy. I don't think The Matrix would be it, though... I myself loved the trilogy, but too many people expected so much more and I guess they never delivered. It was great for me, but a letdown for a lot of people.

Author:	andaroo1 [ Mon Jan 10, 2005 5:25 pm ]
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torrino has it down pat, but the reason is the performances. That's what people love. They come and are entertained for the CG but how it touches them is the important thing. The Matrix may make you think but it doesn't have the warmth to become beloved by the vast majority. I've always felt that The Matrix, as a stand alone, has the ability to have a long life ahead of it, but not the sequels. They weren't recieved as well and have major, major problems with a good chunk of the audience.