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Author:  MARVEL_ROCKS [ Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:29 am ]
Post subject:  Roland Emmerich vs. Michael bay
Start voting!

ROLAND EMMERICH

5/28/04 The Day After Tomorrow Fox $542,771,772
6/28/00 The Patriot Sony $215,294,342
5/20/98 Godzilla Sony $379,014,294
7/3/96 Independence Day Fox $816,969,268
10/28/94 Stargate MGM $196,567,262
7/10/92 Universal Soldier TriS $36,299,898




MICHAEL BAY

7/22/05 The Island DW $162,949,164
7/18/03 Bad Boys II Sony $273,339,556
5/25/01 Pearl Harbor BV $449,220,945
7/1/98 Armageddon BV $553,709,788
6/7/96 The Rock BV $335,062,621
4/7/95 Bad Boys Sony $141,407,024


Both have made big action and sfx movies. Both of them have their fair share of big hits BUT they both have a mediocre critical support.

In your opinion who is better?!

I pick Roland Emmerich becasue i like Independence day, Patriot and Day after tommorow.

Michael bay for me has made only 2 good movies armageddon and the rock.
Author:  Jim Halpert [ Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:37 am ]
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um no contest, emmerich easily. Bay is just plain awful.
Author:  Jmart [ Mon Apr 02, 2007 3:28 am ]
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Bay. I actually like all of his films, even The Island. Emmerich's movies are decent too, but I find Bay's to be more entertaining.
Author:  DIB2 [ Mon Apr 02, 2007 3:33 am ]
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ehh. Roland Made Godzilla :disgust: , boooo. but he redeemed himself with the Patriot, a phenomenal film.

as for Mr. Bay, I Havent seen the rock, but of the bay films I've seen Bad Boys is my favorite (The Patriot Freakin owns all Bay films)

Grades for Roland

The Patriot - A
Independence Day - B+
The Day After Tomorrow - B
Godzilla - D-
Universal Soldier- B

Mr. Bay

Bad Boys - A-
Pearl Harbor - B
Bad Boys II - B
Armageddon - B-
The Island - B-

there about even, but I'd give the edge to Roland (thanks to the awsomeness of The Patriot)
Author:  The Dark Shape [ Mon Apr 02, 2007 3:50 am ]
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The Patriot sucked. I give the edge to Michael Bay for The Rock.
Author:  Riggs [ Mon Apr 02, 2007 5:23 am ]
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Bay. I like/love nearly all of his movies.
Author:  neo_wolf [ Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:32 am ]
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Emmerich:
Day after tomorrow: B-
The Patriot: B
Godzilla: F
ID4: A-
Universal soldier: B
Stargate: A(my favorite film of his).

Bay:
The island: B
Bad boys 2: F-
Armageddon: D
Bad Boys: B
Pearl Harbor: F
The Rock: A-

Emmerich wins.
Author:  Tuukka [ Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:41 am ]
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I like Emmerich more. In fact I think that he is a very underrated director, because he is one of the best action directors in Hollywood. His movies are flawed, yes, but they have very dynamic, skillfully staged, exciting and impressive set pieces. And that's not an easy thing to do.
Author:  MadGez [ Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:46 am ]
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Emmerich:
Day After Tomorrow: B (great visuals)
The Patriot: A (I enjoyed this very much)
Godzilla: C-
ID4: A
Universal soldier: B
Stargate: (Havnt Seen)

Bay:
The Island: A (underrated)
Bad boys 2: (Havnt seen)
Armageddon: C+ (overrated)
Bad Boys: B+
Pearl Harbor: C- (The biggest dissapointment of my movie going life)
The Rock: A (one of my all time fave actioners)

Very close - I'd prob give it to Emmerich.
Author:  Jedi Master Carr [ Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:49 am ]
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I give Emmerich the edge. ID4 is better than anything Bay has ever done.
Author:  Libs [ Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:19 am ]
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Michael Bay has one good movie (The Rock) on his resume. Most of his other movies are mediocre, although I wouldn't call any of them awful except Bad Boys II.

Roland Emmerich has made three I enjoyed: The Patriot (undoubtedly the best overall movie he's made), Independence Day and The Day After Tomorrow. Those are slightly balanced out by Godzilla, one of the worst movies ever probably.
Author:  Jim Halpert [ Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:29 am ]
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Emmerich:
Day After Tomorrow: B
The Patriot: A-
Godzilla: D
ID4: A-
Universal soldier: N/A
Stargate: B+

Bay:
The Island: B+
Bad boys 2: C-
Armageddon: C
Bad Boys: C
Pearl Harbor: C-
The Rock: B+
Author:  GuybrushX McMurphy [ Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:34 am ]
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Emmerich........... becaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaause................... I liked Independence Day when I was 15.
Author:  Johnny Dollar [ Mon Apr 02, 2007 12:36 pm ]
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Really puts that Tarkovsky thread in perspective.
Author:  zingy [ Mon Apr 02, 2007 12:45 pm ]
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Emmerich:
The Day After Tomorrow - A
The Patriot - B+
Godzilla - A-
Independence Day - A
Stargate - B+
Universal Soldier - A-

Michael Bay:
The Island - A
Bad Boys II - A
Pearl Harbor - B-
Armageddon - A-
The Rock - A
Bad Boys - A

Both winners in my book. :thumbsup:
Author:  GuybrushX McMurphy [ Mon Apr 02, 2007 12:55 pm ]
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Zingaling wrote:
Both winners in my book. :thumbsup:


That's stranger and more far-fetched than anything that's said in the book Genesis.
Author:  David [ Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:42 pm ]
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Michael Bay. I've been entertained by his movies, even if they're wall-to-wall mindless action. The only Emmerich movie I love is The Patriot, though ID4 and Stargate are alright too.
Author:  Heinrich Himmler [ Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:59 pm ]
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they are both hacks, but in the end, emmerich may be the more competent dirctor. though godzilla stands out as one of the worst event movies ever.
Author:  We trust Michael Bay [ Mon Apr 02, 2007 3:09 pm ]
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Visuals visuals square camera movement shuffle cam and boom!

Pearl Harbor 11/10
Armageddon 12/10
Bad Boys 10/10
Bad Boys 2 10/10
The Rock 10/10
The Island 9/10


Emerich- see wikenpedia for Bay imitator

ID4 1/10
Day After Tommorrow 1/10
Godzilla 0/10
The Patriot 0/10
Stargate 1/10
Author:  makeshift [ Mon Apr 02, 2007 4:25 pm ]
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Joseba B-Loki wrote:
they are both hacks, but in the end, emmerich may be the more competent dirctor. though godzilla stands out as one of the worst event movies ever.


Um, no. I would expect more from someone with a Suspiria avatar. :biggrin:

Roland Emmerich is probably the biggest hack filmmaker currently working. He has no distinct visual style to speak of, and completely lacks any sort of artistry or competence as a director.

Michael Bay, however, is an important filmmaker (with a distinct style) who is probably as vital to male cinema as someone like Scorsese or Peckinpah.
Author:  GuybrushX McMurphy [ Mon Apr 02, 2007 4:50 pm ]
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makeshift wrote:
Michael Bay, however, is an important filmmaker (with a distinct style) who is probably as vital to male cinema as someone like Scorsese or Peckinpah.


And I thought you were being sarcastic in my thread. So, it's either the same joke twice or.. the unthinkable. :cry:
Author:  film-lover [ Mon Apr 02, 2007 4:53 pm ]
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Bay:
Bad Boys: B-
The Rock: B+
Armageddon: C+
Pearl Harbor: D
Bad Boys 2: C
The Island: C+

Emmerich:
Stargate: B-
Universal Soldier: B
ID4: B
Godzilla: D-
The Patriot: B+
The Day After Tomorrow: B

Emmerich has made more movies that I liked, but he did Godzilla, and for that, he will never be forgiven.
Author:  Groucho [ Mon Apr 02, 2007 4:55 pm ]
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Jayhawk wrote:
um no contest, emmerich easily. Bay is just plain awful.


I agree. Bay is an F. Emmerich is only a D.
Author:  Johnny Dollar [ Mon Apr 02, 2007 5:00 pm ]
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Bay's oft-offensive (and usually shitty) masturbatory spectacles are far more interesting than anything Emmerich has ever done.
Author:  zennier [ Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:07 pm ]
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I don't care for either of them, to be honest. Some of their movies are entertaining, but... I don't even feel compelled to consider which one is "better."

I really liked Stargate, despite it being cheesy... the mythological aspect is fun.
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