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Author:  jb007 [ Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Rankings for The First Bond Movie of Each Actor!!!
Sean Connery: Dr. No

Groundbreaking. A new hero for the ages is born and takes the world by storm. Connery was superb.

George Lazenby: On Her Majesty's Secret Service

A disaster. Lazenby was pathetic. Almost sunk the second most lucrative movie franchise in the world.

Roger Moore: Live and Let Die

Fantastic movie. Introduction of the ultra suave Bond played effortlessly by Moore and transistioned the bond franchise to a worldwide super franchise. The best title song of the series along with the most beautiful Bond girl, Jane Seymour.

Timothy Dalton: The Living Daylights

This movie had the best script of all these 6 movies. Great background score.

Pierce Brosnan: Goldeneye

Brosnan was a great Bond. This movie gave the franchise a third life that has carried it into the fifth decade of existence.

Daniel Craig: Casino Royale

Daniel Craig excels as an action star. A big disappointment as a "Bond' movie. Severely lacks the entertainment value of most bond movies. The makers of this movie wanted Bond to be in the vein of Matt Damon's Bourne. They have succeeded somewhat in morphing Bond into a lesser version of Bourne. The Bourne movies have a gritty screenplay while Casino Royale lacks a coherent screenplay. The missing "bond" score during the movie pissed me off.


Rankings:

1. Live and Let Die
2. Dr. No
3. Goldeneye
4. The Living Daylights
5. Casino Royale
6. OHMSS
Author:  The Dark Shape [ Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:41 pm ]
Post subject: 
So I'm ranking the film and not the man?

1. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
2. Casino Royale
3. GoldenEye
4. Dr. No
5. Live and Let Die
6. The Living Daylights
Author:  jb007 [ Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:42 pm ]
Post subject: 
The Dark Shape wrote:
So I'm ranking the film and not the man?

1. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
2. Casino Royale
3. GoldenEye
4. Dr. No
5. Live and Let Die
6. The Living Daylights


Yep. Rank the movie.
Author:  Thegun [ Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:45 pm ]
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Havent seen Casino Royale yet so I can't vote but as far as the others.

Dr. No
Goldeneye
The living Daylights
Live and Let Die
On Her Majesty's Secret service
Author:  A. G. [ Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:58 pm ]
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Am I the only one who doesn't see the new Bond as much like Bourne? It's only like Bourne in the sense of more hand to hand combat and less high tech, but the persona's of the characters are very different. I don't think it's fair to latch onto what someone behind the scenes said about Bond being more Bourne like, I doubt they meant it the way you took it.
Author:  jb007 [ Sat Nov 18, 2006 5:04 pm ]
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Archie Gates wrote:
Am I the only one who doesn't see the new Bond as much like Bourne? It's only like Bourne in the sense of more hand to hand combat and less high tech, but the persona's of the characters are very different. I don't think it's fair to latch onto what someone behind the scenes said about Bond being more Bourne like, I doubt they meant it the way you took it.


Bourne's success worldwide was the catalyst for bringing in Daniel Craig. Certainly, the decision was not financial since Die Another Day was the most successful of all the Brosnan movies.
Author:  Jmart [ Sat Nov 18, 2006 5:05 pm ]
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[font=century gothic]1. Live and Let Die
2. Casino Royale
3. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
4. Dr. No
5. The Living Daylights
6. Goldeneye[/font]
Author:  A. G. [ Sat Nov 18, 2006 5:31 pm ]
Post subject: 
jb007 wrote:
Archie Gates wrote:
Am I the only one who doesn't see the new Bond as much like Bourne? It's only like Bourne in the sense of more hand to hand combat and less high tech, but the persona's of the characters are very different. I don't think it's fair to latch onto what someone behind the scenes said about Bond being more Bourne like, I doubt they meant it the way you took it.


Bourne's success worldwide was the catalyst for bringing in Daniel Craig. Certainly, the decision was not financial since Die Another Day was the most successful of all the Brosnan movies.

Your second sentence contradicts your first, if Die Another Day was so successful as it was, then they hardly needed to envy Bourne's financial success. I think the catalyst was just a sense by everyone that the cartoonish version of Bond which Brosnan had come to personify had run its course and a desire by the producers to get back to something more like the 60s Bond. They seem to want to make something they can be proud of and still make money, and judging by 95% of critics giving it a thumbs up they have achieved their goal.
Author:  jb007 [ Sat Nov 18, 2006 6:40 pm ]
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Archie Gates wrote:

Your second sentence contradicts your first, if Die Another Day was so successful as it was, then they hardly needed to envy Bourne's financial success. I think the catalyst was just a sense by everyone that the cartoonish version of Bond which Brosnan had come to personify had run its course and a desire by the producers to get back to something more like the 60s Bond. They seem to want to make something they can be proud of and still make money, and judging by 95% of critics giving it a thumbs up they have achieved their goal.


Nope. It makes my point. Bond producers and Sony were mightily impressed with non-high tech and gritty nature of Jason Bourne movies. The 60's bond movies were gritty as well as full of high tech gadgets. Abandoning the high tech gadgets was a result of trying to imitate Bourne more than anything else.

There was no need for Bond to be reinvented ala Batman in Batman Begins. That franshise had hit rock bottom with Batman and Robin, where as the direction in Casino Royale was a voluntary choice made inspite of Die Another Day's spectacular success.
Author:  Thegun [ Sat Nov 18, 2006 6:45 pm ]
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jb007 wrote:
Archie Gates wrote:

Your second sentence contradicts your first, if Die Another Day was so successful as it was, then they hardly needed to envy Bourne's financial success. I think the catalyst was just a sense by everyone that the cartoonish version of Bond which Brosnan had come to personify had run its course and a desire by the producers to get back to something more like the 60s Bond. They seem to want to make something they can be proud of and still make money, and judging by 95% of critics giving it a thumbs up they have achieved their goal.


Nope. It makes my point. Bond producers and Sony were mightily impressed with non-high tech and gritty nature of Jason Bourne movies. The 60's bond movies were gritty as well as full of high tech gadgets. Abandoning the high tech gadgets was a result of trying to imitate Bourne more than anything else.

There was no need for Bond to be reinvented ala Batman in Batman Begins. That franshise had hit rock bottom with Batman and Robin, where as the direction in Casino Royale was a voluntary choice made inspite of Die Another Day's spectacular success.


No thats not true at all, Bond books were all used up except Casino Royale, they had an original version that called for Brosnan to return, but after they decided that the book as a whole was more about the beginnings of James Bond, they went for a younger actor. Bourne is not even close to as popular as Bond, they were planning the new Bond well before Supremacy came out.
Author:  jb007 [ Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:43 pm ]
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Thegun wrote:

No thats not true at all, Bond books were all used up except Casino Royale, they had an original version that called for Brosnan to return, but after they decided that the book as a whole was more about the beginnings of James Bond, they went for a younger actor. Bourne is not even close to as popular as Bond, they were planning the new Bond well before Supremacy came out.


No doubt about it. But you are wrong about Supremacy. Bourne's success was already set by The Bourne Identity in 2002 months prior to the release of Die Another Day..

But the idea of Bourne type Bond movie was mentioned by the people behind this movie.
Author:  zennier [ Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:20 pm ]
Post subject: 
The Dark Shape wrote:
So I'm ranking the film and not the man?

1. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
2. Casino Royale
3. GoldenEye
4. Dr. No
5. Live and Let Die
6. The Living Daylights


Sounds good to be.

It's a tossup between CR and OHMSS. :-)
Author:  Thegun [ Sat Nov 18, 2006 10:32 pm ]
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jb007 wrote:
Thegun wrote:

No thats not true at all, Bond books were all used up except Casino Royale, they had an original version that called for Brosnan to return, but after they decided that the book as a whole was more about the beginnings of James Bond, they went for a younger actor. Bourne is not even close to as popular as Bond, they were planning the new Bond well before Supremacy came out.


No doubt about it. But you are wrong about Supremacy. Bourne's success was already set by The Bourne Identity in 2002 months prior to the release of Die Another Day..

But the idea of Bourne type Bond movie was mentioned by the people behind this movie.


Thats my point, Identity was a suprise hit, but Die Another Day was the biggest Bond of all time. I doubt there is as much influence as you predict. I really dont see the huge comparision. Bourne is assassin kind of always on the run searching for his real life, yes there are similiarities, but I would say Bourne was more influenced by Bond then the other way around.
Author:  Excel [ Sun Nov 19, 2006 4:00 am ]
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1. Goldeneye
2. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
3. Live and Let Die
4. Dr. No
5. Casino Royale
6. The Living Daylights
Author:  MovieGeek [ Sun Nov 19, 2006 11:53 am ]
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1. Casino Royale
2. Goldeneye
3. Dr. No
4. Goldfinger
5. Live And Let Die
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