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| Author: | mary [ Fri Mar 04, 2005 10:16 am ] |
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HBO Films/Fine Line Features present a Pedro Almodovar production -- HOLY GIRL will be released on 4/29/05(limited). The US trailer of this movie will be attracted on some prints of Dear Frankie, Millions, In My Country....... More detail about this movie http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=6516 Poster 
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| Author: | dolcevita [ Sat Mar 05, 2005 10:59 am ] |
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The director is Lucrecia Martel. I went to IMDB and she's fairly new on the scene. Only 7 entries and I don't recognize any off them. "The Holy Girl" (La Niña Santa) explores the burgeoning sexuality and religious fervor of two teenage girls, Amalia (Alche) and her best friend, Josefina (Zylberberg). Artfully piecing together a mosaic of nuanced details, fragments of sounds, and small moments, Lucrecia Martel creates a potent and specific portrait of adolescent life. Understanding the temptation of good - and the evil it causes - "The Holy Girl" delicately explores themes of sin, frustration and desire. Looks like Pedro produces birds of a feather... 
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| Author: | mary [ Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:16 am ] |
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US trailer online! http://www.apple.com/trailers/fineline/the_holy_girl/ |
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| Author: | Jeff [ Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:38 am ] |
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Any word on the rating for this? Will it be NC-17 like his last film? Also, do you think it will have the strong PTA of his previous film, which was over $50,000 opening weekend, and $47,000 for its second weekend. |
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| Author: | dolcevita [ Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:49 am ] |
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Not his, he's a producer this time. It will not have nearly that kind of turn out. Attaching his name to it as a producer will help a bit, but not that much. |
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| Author: | Jeff [ Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:53 am ] |
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Oh I see. I misread your post where you listed the director. Thanks Dolce. |
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| Author: | mary [ Thu Mar 17, 2005 1:41 am ] |
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dolcevita wrote: Not his, he's a producer this time. It will not have nearly that kind of turn out. Attaching his name to it as a producer will help a bit, but not that much. In fact, the US trailer evidently uses the name of "Pedro Almodovar" as a big selling point.... |
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| Author: | mary [ Thu Mar 17, 2005 1:42 am ] |
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RogueCommander wrote: Oh I see. I misread your post where you listed the director. Thanks Dolce. Sorry if I lead you to misunderstand 
This movie is rated R(for some sexual content and brief nudity) Anyway, HBO's movies always have good opening weekend(Maria Full Of Grace, American Splendor, Elephant), so "The Holy Girl" should have $10,000+ per screen average at opening weekend. |
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| Author: | mary [ Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:33 pm ] |
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In New York Times' Sunday magazine, A.O. Scott wrote a article for this movie. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/10/magazine/10PAGE.html That article also has the photos of Lucrecia Martel, director of "THE HOLY GIRL" . 
PS: I have also posted the poster in the first message of the thread. |
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| Author: | mary [ Tue Apr 12, 2005 7:38 am ] |
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Some good reviews is coming: "With The Holy Girl, the second of two uniquely beautiful and disturbing movies about families in disarray, Argentina's Lucrecia Martel has quickly established herself as a major presence...... The Holy Girl is a richer experience than La Cinaga" Kent Jones, FILM COMMENT "Unrecognized by the jury, Lucrecia Martel's La Nina Santa (The Holy Girl) was the best-directed feature in the competition" J. Hoberman, VILLAGE VOICE (From J. Hoberman's report of 2004 Cannes Film Festival) "A film of great subtlety and intensity" Kenneth Turan, LOS ANGELES TIMES 'THE HOLY GIRL is a film that defies categorization, but I’m tempted to call it a miracle.' A.O. Scott, THE NEW YORK TIMES "Wickedly Sharp" John Powers, LA WEEKLY |
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| Author: | dolcevita [ Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:15 pm ] |
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Hey, I'm just excited because its a female director and there really aren't very many of those sadly. I think since Pedro is producing this one, he's clearly decided she might be his heir designate. Content seems to match anyways Only she's picking female leads instead of male ones.
I saw the trailer for this before Melinda and melinda, and I hate to admit it looked ok. Just ok. I wasn't particularly blown over, though some of the inages were nicely shot. I'm definately going to wait and learn more about it. Nice to see its being received warmly though. This is a bit of a sleeper hit this year (if there is one). I think it oculd take 5 million with smart distribution. |
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| Author: | mary [ Tue Apr 12, 2005 9:14 pm ] |
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THE HOLY GIRL may be the kind of movies that are difficult to be edited to the short trailer (especially for the greenband trailer.) Although both HBO and Mr.Pedro Almodovar has their fanbase in US, I don't expect this movie to become a big arthouse boxoffice hit in US. I think that this kind of movie (sex+religion) is a tough sell in US.  Furthermore, the style of this movie may be too "art" for the US mainstream audience.
If this movie can gross more than $1 million in US, I will be happy. Anyway. this movie is a must-see for me. |
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| Author: | movies35 [ Wed Apr 13, 2005 10:11 am ] |
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I think the movie looks absolutely amazing. Of course it'll never come near me, so I'll definetely be buying it! |
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| Author: | mary [ Sun Apr 17, 2005 5:18 pm ] |
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NY Daily News' interview with the director of THE HOLY GIRL http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainmen ... 7053c.html This movie is getting more and more press. |
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| Author: | mary [ Tue Apr 26, 2005 11:33 am ] |
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THE HOLY GIRL will open at the Lincoln Plaza Cinemas and Landmark's Sunshine Cinemas in New York City on April 29. However, those two theaters will also open 3-IRON at the same day. Therefore, THE HOLY GIRL would bomb badly....
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| Author: | mary [ Sat Apr 30, 2005 1:43 pm ] |
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It's getting good reviews -- 88% at RT http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/holy_girl/ However, because of 3-IRON...... THE HOLY GIRL would bomb badly.
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| Author: | dolcevita [ Sat Apr 30, 2005 8:05 pm ] |
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I think it will have a moderately strong per/theatre average mary. Mostly because I think there are enough people like me here who have never even heard of 3-IRON. I still have no idea what it's about, and wouldn't have known about it release if you hadn't mentioned it, but I did know about Holy Girl. Around here I've seen some posters for HG but none for 3I, so it'll average out. Won't be huge, but I've seen the trailer twice already attached to other films, including Bad Education and Melinda & Melinda, so enough people here know about it. That should help. I'll be trying to catch it tomorrow night. I'll let you know what I thought afterwards. |
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| Author: | mary [ Sun May 01, 2005 12:27 pm ] |
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dolcevita wrote: I think it will have a moderately strong per/theatre average mary. Mostly because I think there are enough people like me here who have never even heard of 3-IRON. I still have no idea what it's about, and wouldn't have known about it release if you hadn't mentioned it, but I did know about Holy Girl. Around here I've seen some posters for HG but none for 3I, so it'll average out. Won't be huge, but I've seen the trailer twice already attached to other films, including Bad Education and Melinda & Melinda, so enough people here know about it. That should help. I'll be trying to catch it tomorrow night. I'll let you know what I thought afterwards. dolcevita, you are right =D> $14,163 per/theatre average http://boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/ ... =17&p=.htm I'm very happy. :razz: |
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| Author: | dolcevita [ Sun May 01, 2005 2:09 pm ] |
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:razz: Do I know New York City or what??? 3-Iron did quite poorly for 7 theatres actually. Only 3,100/theatre. I haven't seen a lick of promotion for it here. Too bad, I just looked it up on imdb, and it looks decent. SHould get more coverage than it is also. That's weak marketing on the part of Sony. I think Holy Girl promotion was much smarter. They knew who their target audiance was and went for it. Personally, I am going to try to catch an evening showing tonight, so you'll be hearing from me soon. No way a movie gets a low pta when it was the trailer for two movies that had a 74,000/theatre average (in 1 theatre) and a 50,000/theatre average (3 theatres) resepctively. 16,000/theatre is great. As usual I applaud any breakthrough by a female director, especially since with the exception of Sophia Copolla, they've all been imports. This is a close market issue to track, I would love if someone did, since as it stands the well received female directors are Jane Campion (Australia), Lina Wertmuller (Italy), and probably some French director I'm not thinking of right now. That's about it. Lets see what Lucrecia can do, shall we? |
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| Author: | mary [ Sun May 01, 2005 2:27 pm ] |
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dolcevita, I can't wait your review for THE HOLY GIRL. :razz: dolcevita wrote: As usual I applaud any breakthrough by a female director, especially since with the exception of Sophia Copolla, they've all been imports. This is a close market issue to track, I would love if someone did, since as it stands the well received female directors are Jane Campion (Australia), Lina Wertmuller (Italy), and probably some French director I'm not thinking of right now. That's about it. Lets see what Lucrecia can do, shall we? Next month, we may see another breakthrough by a US female director: Miranda July More information about her new movie http://worldofkj.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6983 |
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| Author: | dolcevita [ Sun May 01, 2005 10:07 pm ] |
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Just saw it. A very interesting movie actually. It drops off a bit suddenly at the end. I don't like a movie that feels like it should have been just ten minutes longer, usually, but Lucrecia does an excelllent job exploring people's humaity and shortcomings up until that point. I'd have to say that as impressive as that sounds, what made this movie was her direction, editting, audio, more than even the content. Content was very open to interpretation, but she was non-condemning of anyone in the film. Pretty good. Dragged in a few places but was incredibly intense in some others. She has some scnees were Amalia shows up in the doctor's room that almost feel out of a horror movie, along with a scene that has three girls running in the woods were a car accident was. She's excellent at tension and also at quick moments of humor. Pretty good, I think it's in the B+ range. BTW, there were about 150 people in the theatre when I went. Not too shabby. |
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| Author: | mary [ Sun May 01, 2005 10:31 pm ] |
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dolcevita wrote: Just saw it. A very interesting movie actually. It drops off a bit suddenly at the end. I don't like a movie that feels like it should have been just ten minutes longer, usually, but Lucrecia does an excelllent job exploring people's humaity and shortcomings up until that point. I'd have to say that as impressive as that sounds, what made this movie was her direction, editting, audio, more than even the content. Content was very open to interpretation, but she was non-condemning of anyone in the film. Pretty good. Dragged in a few places but was incredibly intense in some others. She has some scnees were Amalia shows up in the doctor's room that almost feel out of a horror movie, along with a scene that has three girls running in the woods were a car accident was. She's excellent at tension and also at quick moments of humor. Pretty good, I think it's in the B+ range. BTW, there were about 150 people in the theatre when I went. Not too shabby. Thanks for your review :razz: I hope you don't mind if I use [dolcevita's review] on the title of this thread~~~~ :wink: I'm glad that you like this movie :razz: ; I'm happy that I didn't make a trap to you. :wink: BTW, does this movie remind you some Pedro-themes? (Sorry for my bad english....) My area's theater may show this movie on 5/13. I hope that I could find some time to watch it. |
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| Author: | dolcevita [ Mon May 02, 2005 11:45 am ] |
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About Pedro, I guess the simple answer is yes. Anything about Catholic Schoolkids and sex right? She also uses these very normal (though striking) actors. Its exactly like Pedro. Remember Pedro discovered Antonio Banderas but he just looked like a dorky Spanish man in Women in the Verge. Everyone is like that in this movie. No one looks like a star. The more complicated answer is no. Her tone and timing are very different. SO she can take the same sort of characters he would, but it feels very different. She's a bit less polished. Its a very seamless movie, and its not monotonous, but you do feel it's length. It takes its time in a way that Almodovar movies are usually much more frenetic. She sticks to pretty much four characters with a couple peripheral ones, and those are the four you stay with the entire length of the film. Its also just a much quieter feel. Her characters are a bit more "normal." I hope you get a chance to see it mary, its definately worth it. And let me know what you thought. I'm going to work on a full review for the main site too. |
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| Author: | mary [ Wed May 04, 2005 1:06 am ] |
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I can't wait for your full review, dolcevita~~~~ :razz: Just gets the news from New Line: THE HOLY GIRL will expand to [LA & selective markets] on 5/13. |
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| Author: | dolcevita [ Thu May 05, 2005 8:17 pm ] |
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Here you go mary. The Holy Girl Quote: Lucrecia Martel takes her careful time to dwell on the circumstances that culminate in the downfall of the middle-aged Dr. Jano. The doctor (Carlos Belloso) attends a week-long conference in an Argentine city; events which will change his life forever. Shrouded in the anonymity of being a stranger in a claustrophobic urban center, he makes improper advances on a random school-girl on the streets one day. The girl, Amalia (Maria Alche), when faced with his erection pushed up against her backside, envisions the opportunity as a calling for her vocation. She and her best friend, Josefina (Julieta Zylberberg) have been obsessively studying the themes of vocation and redemption at the Catholic all-girl’s school they attend. What ensues is Martel’s haunting, yet remarkably non-judgmental exploration of sex, faith, anonymity and maturation in The Holy Girl. The Holy Girl’s strength lies in its history and its tone. Lucrecia does little to project her own sentiments onto the characters, allowing them to build into full and comprehendible forms rather than revert to the usual exchange between older men and young girls so often the topic of film and literature. Amalia is completely in control of her actions, and rather than being subjected to Dr. Jano’s whims, it is instead she who instigates the cat and mouse chase that runs the length of the movie. She is a complex youth, and her first sexual contact happens to inform her somewhat confused desire to help mankind. Could her vocation be to save just one soul? Amalia is caught at the intersection of adult awakenings and religious faith when she makes the intuitive decision to pursuit her odd attraction to the doctor. Lucrecia may very well have sourced some of her visual acuity in the horror genre. Amalia has a knack for appearing without a trace. At one point Dr. Jano opens a closet door only to see her reflection suddenly behind his shoulder. She taps harmoniously on metal piping to call for his attention in the hotel swimming pool, and the direction of their peeking and hiding take on a very ominous sense early on. When Amalia, Josephina, and a third friend run frantically through the woods in the notorious area of a deadly car accident and apparition, one has the sense that Lucrecia finds suspense even in the most mundane situations. That she has taken a random physical trespass in a crowd listening to music and transformed the chance encounter into such a true work of anticipation is just proof in the pudding. Amalia’s mother Helena (Mercedes Moran) watches over her affectionately, and the two live in a hotel. Their history is not revealed, except for that Helena is divorced. When she meets Dr. Jano at the conference, the two begin dating. Helena does not force the situation, and they never engage in anything risqué despite her desire to push the relationship further. Dr. Jano recognizes Helena from her past as a championship diver; an occupation that has left Helena struggling with ear pain and slightly hearing impaired. One wonders about Jano’s hesitancy, especially in light of his lack of awareness that Helena and Amalia are family. That the two meet often, and their conversations are riddled with typical hesitancy and anxiety only adds to The Holy Girl’s already elusive and disturbing tonal quality. The Holy Girl dwells on sounds, overlooked moments, and youth’s propensity to go looking for danger. It also explores family structure, friendship, memory, and disappointment. There is little that Holy Girl does not touch upon while following its four characters through one week in an Argentine Hotel. Martel holds a heavy hand over the composure of Holy Girl, and every shot feels carefully contrived. The running music of an instrument-less musician wafts off the streets and even into the hotel. As with any hotel, the conversations that waft through the hallways and the random situations that occur in the hallways all feed the mounting pressure of the tricky sex triangle that is Amalia, Helena, and Dr. Jano. All of the actors, in particular Alche and Moran bring a very realist and ultimately appealing sensibility to their characters. Alche is destined for more screen time with her deep brooding eyes yet affectionate character. Amalia is what all pubescent teens in movies should be like. She is full, complex, hard to comprehend. And yet is anything but loathsome. As The Holy Girl builds towards the inevitable moment, Martel makes her one large misstep. In her desire to keep The Holy Girl open-ended, she instead does never reaches a conclusion. There is a fine difference between incomplete and suggestions of potential. To experience Holy Girl up through the last day of the conference, one can’t help but wish the breaking point was addressed in perhaps five minutes of footage. As it stands The Holy Girl is a rich journey through one week when lives fatefully cross, but the film is just not quite…finished. B+ I actually see this pulling 5 million-ish if marketing is smart. There seems to be some interest in this movie, and even on this site I've noticed some people like movies35 that have wanted to get a look at it. |
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