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| Author: | Anonymous [ Sat Jun 11, 2005 10:43 am ] |
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We've all talked about how the AMPAS will be looking for more accessible Best Picture nominees this year. We've mentioned Sith and War of the Worlds. Now it's looking like Batman Begins may have redefined the comic book movie genre. It's getting excellent reviews but can it do what the greatest comic book film ever IMO Spider-Man 2 couldn't do? That is, get a Best Picture nomination? |
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| Author: | zingy [ Sat Jun 11, 2005 10:47 am ] |
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I doubt it. Spider-Man 2 is the best comic book movie ever (in my opinion), and that was loved a lot. It didn't get that nomination, though it might have been because there were 5 "better" (if you want to call it that) movies to nominate. This year, I have no idea what's going for the Best Picture nominee. |
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| Author: | xiayun [ Sat Jun 11, 2005 1:25 pm ] |
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It's different from Spider-Man 2. Batman Begins is darker and supposed to the most adult-oriented adaptation ever, as well as helmed by an acclaimed director. Hulk was mentioned as a possible contender for those same reasons before it was released and before the reviews killed it. With Batman Begins getting much better reviews, it's certainly possible. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Sat Jun 11, 2005 1:26 pm ] |
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N-O. (and the overall reviews aren't THAT good to begin with) |
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| Author: | matatonio [ Sat Jun 11, 2005 1:29 pm ] |
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I dont know much about the Oscars and how it works...but i REALLY HIGHLY doubt that would be happening! there a lot of contenders out there getting reeady to be released and this is not one of them! |
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| Author: | Anonymous [ Sat Jun 11, 2005 1:38 pm ] |
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Having not seen the film, I'm in the NO camp, for now at least. I'm merely throwing out the possibly, especially seeing that Cinderella Man is dying at the box office and could very well be out of contention. There's going to be a big film in terms of scope and box office nominated for Best Picture, that I'm sure of. Which film will take the nod, there's only half of dozen or so films in the running. Being one of the best reviewed films of the year could only help Batman Begins case. And let's not forget that since 1990, Warner is second only to Miramax for most Best Picture nominations by a studio. |
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| Author: | dar [ Sat Jun 11, 2005 6:34 pm ] |
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No, It is not possible. The super-hero movie that gets an oscar-nomination (if ever) won´t be a sequel (and this is, even if it re-starts the franchise)... and I can´t imagine any getting a nomination right now. Maybe a graphic novel will ( a la "Road to perdition", even if that wasn´t nominated) Either that, or we have a very dull year ahead. |
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| Author: | andaroo1 [ Sat Jun 11, 2005 11:08 pm ] |
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Throwing away my bias that I've seemed to develop or have attributed to me, (I can't tell at this point)... It does have some hallmarks of best picture material, but there's a lot to overcome. One would think support would mostly come from tech branches for films which push the norm, but there is a lot of competition this year in BIG categories from films that have room to impress after the release of Batman Begins (namely Kong and Worlds). Unlike Hulk, Batman Begins' director wasn't nominated for a Director Oscar, it's lead stars weren't (some supporting characters, yes). Frankly, I don't like the script, which is primarily why I don't like idea of Batman Begins, but then again Seabiscuit didn't have a great one either and got big noms. And even though it is NOT a sequel, will it still be thought of AS a sequel? AT THIS POINT the reviews are not better than for Spider-Man (the first one) which were pretty much orgasmic and similar in nature to those of Batman, but not all positive and negative reviewers' reactions will be known until next Friday. I think it's biggest weakness is its plot. The movie finds it's apparent strength in the characters who are involved in this semi-wacky, comicy plot. It would definately be considered an outsider. On paper, King Kong and War of the Worlds, with their bigger names, more Oscarish stars (Cruise, Watts, Brody) and Oscar winning directors, effects teams, etc. etc. etc. still look like bigger contendors. We will have to reapproach this in two weeks time. |
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| Author: | Joker's Thug #3 [ Sun Jun 12, 2005 12:40 am ] |
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Yes and it'll win :razz: Ofcourse not, it might get nominated for some technical awards though. |
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| Author: | Joker's Thug #3 [ Sun Jun 12, 2005 12:42 am ] |
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Rod wrote: N-O. (and the overall reviews aren't THAT good to begin with) Pssh, atleast it's doing better then the supposed oscar contender " Crash " =; |
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| Author: | Anonymous [ Sun Jun 12, 2005 9:15 am ] |
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andaroo wrote: We will have to reapproach this in two weeks time. Indeed. I never thought I'd be talking Oscar during the summer but the big players are out in full. |
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| Author: | andaroo1 [ Sun Jun 12, 2005 9:28 am ] |
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loyalfromlondon wrote: andaroo wrote: We will have to reapproach this in two weeks time. Indeed. I never thought I'd be talking Oscar during the summer but the big players are out in full. Well... it's always like this really. Last year we were talking about Collateral and we already had an Eternal Sunshine. But there were a lot more indie films. |
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| Author: | deathawk [ Sun Jun 12, 2005 9:35 am ] |
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I'm in the no camp at the moment. If there is going to be a "blockbuster" nominated in the category, I'd handicap King Kong #1, at the moment. |
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| Author: | Anonymous [ Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:25 am ] |
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andaroo wrote: loyalfromlondon wrote: andaroo wrote: We will have to reapproach this in two weeks time. Indeed. I never thought I'd be talking Oscar during the summer but the big players are out in full. Well... it's always like this really. Last year we were talking about Collateral and we already had an Eternal Sunshine. But there were a lot more indie films. Troy and Kingdom of Heaven Spider-Man 2 and Batman Begins I guess we can draw some comparisons but 2005 seems more exciting to me. Mann and co were robbed BTW. Robbed! |
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| Author: | baumer72 [ Tue Jun 14, 2005 9:38 am ] |
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I think the best picture noms this year will be: Revenge of the Sith Batman Begins Fantastic Four Mr. and Mrs. Smith and Narnia There are some big changes in store for the academy this year. BTW...Yoda will win best supp puppet. |
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| Author: | Anonymous [ Tue Jun 14, 2005 9:53 am ] |
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baumer72 wrote: I think the best picture noms this year will be: Revenge of the Sith Batman Begins Fantastic Four Mr. and Mrs. Smith and Narnia There are some big changes in store for the academy this year. BTW...Yoda will win best supp puppet. If the cut off for voting was August 1st. Nah! :razz: |
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| Author: | neo_wolf [ Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:31 pm ] |
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If Spawn couldnt get nominated no comicbook film can. |
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| Author: | DP07 [ Wed Jun 15, 2005 6:23 pm ] |
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I won't believe it's possible it until I see it. |
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| Author: | dolcevita [ Wed Jun 15, 2005 8:11 pm ] |
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I'm not going to name names or anything. But I get the distinct feeling a couple people in this thread had parents and teachers that forgot to inform them sniffing glue caused irreversible brain damage when they were young.
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| Author: | Anonymous [ Wed Jun 15, 2005 8:24 pm ] |
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dolcevita wrote: I'm not going to name names or anything. But I get the distinct feeling a couple people in this thread had parents and teachers that forgot to inform them sniffing glue caused irreversible brain damage when they were young. Not all Best Picture worthy films can be about gay cowboys eating pudding. [-( |
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| Author: | dolcevita [ Wed Jun 15, 2005 8:26 pm ] |
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loyalfromlondon wrote: dolcevita wrote: I'm not going to name names or anything. But I get the distinct feeling a couple people in this thread had parents and teachers that forgot to inform them sniffing glue caused irreversible brain damage when they were young. Not all Best Picture worthy films can be about gay cowboys eating pudding. [-( Very true...
But none of them can be about comic book heros. Only explosions that make it into the top five biggies are ones involving Vietnam, WWI, WWII, The Civil War, and maybe the American Revolution. No other firepower allowed. Get that Elmers tip out of your nose please loyal. :wink: |
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| Author: | Anonymous [ Wed Jun 15, 2005 8:30 pm ] |
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dolcevita wrote: loyalfromlondon wrote: dolcevita wrote: I'm not going to name names or anything. But I get the distinct feeling a couple people in this thread had parents and teachers that forgot to inform them sniffing glue caused irreversible brain damage when they were young. Not all Best Picture worthy films can be about gay cowboys eating pudding. [-( Very true... But none of them can be about comic book heros. Only explosions that make it into the top five biggies are ones involving Vietnam, WWI, WWII, The Civil War, and maybe the American Revolution. No other firepower allowed. Get that Elmers tip out of your nose please loyal. :wink: Um, hello. LOTR trilogy. Star Wars. |
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| Author: | dolcevita [ Wed Jun 15, 2005 8:32 pm ] |
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I knew I should have added the "realistic" part. Fictional firepower (LOTR didn't even have guns and bombs per se) are the exception. Anyways, I'd love to see Batman get a nod. It and Walk on Water are the only two movies this year I've given a grade in the A range to. I just don't see it happening. |
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| Author: | Anonymous [ Wed Jun 15, 2005 8:36 pm ] |
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dolcevita wrote: I knew I should have added the "realistic" part. Fictional firepower (LOTR didn't even have guns and bombs per se) are the exception. Anyways, I'd love to see Batman get a nod. It and Walk on Water are the only two movies this year I've given a grade in the A range to. I just don't see it happening. The Two Towers is all about a large bomb. Helm's Deep lady. :razz: I've stated I didn't think it was happening either. But that was before I saw the film. I'm slowly building my case for the popular slot amoung the 5 films. Of course, there are several other films to be released yet. Many things can change. |
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| Author: | dolcevita [ Wed Jun 15, 2005 8:38 pm ] |
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If there is a fifth "popular" slot as you put it, I'd give it to Kong or Narnia if either of them has a decent box office run and an above 85% rt fresh rating. |
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