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| Author: | xiayun [ Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | AFI Top 10 |
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| Author: | xiayun [ Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: AFI Top 10 |
Here comes Star Wars. The biggest omission is Revenant. Think Compton will score a PGA nom too. This could be the BP list, with Revenant replacing Compton. |
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| Author: | Dr. Lecter [ Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: AFI Top 10 |
AFI postponed the announcement just so they could see Star Wars. It was obvious the film would make it. This is essential American cinema. |
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| Author: | Dr. Lecter [ Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:44 pm ] |
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xiayun wrote: Here comes Star Wars. The biggest omission is Revenant. Think Compton will score a PGA nom too. This could be the BP list, with Revenant replacing Compton. The shaky candidates seem to be Room, Brooklyn and Bridge of Spies. I think two out of three won't make it. Not sure which two. |
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| Author: | Chippy [ Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: AFI Top 10 |
lol, the fact that they intentionally waited for star wars is so biased. Like, just wait two more weeks, then. |
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| Author: | xiayun [ Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: AFI Top 10 |
Dr. Lecter wrote: xiayun wrote: Here comes Star Wars. The biggest omission is Revenant. Think Compton will score a PGA nom too. This could be the BP list, with Revenant replacing Compton. The shaky candidates seem to be Room, Brooklyn and Bridge of Spies. I think two out of three won't make it. Not sure which two. Brooklyn didn't make it here, so I definitely think it's behind Room if it's between the two. Room being eligible and showing up in AFI list is a surprise in itself. The field is getting rather crowded with Mad Max having done so well so far and Star Wars joining late, so I would put Inside Out on the shaky ground as well. |
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| Author: | Dr. Lecter [ Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: AFI Top 10 |
xiayun wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: xiayun wrote: Here comes Star Wars. The biggest omission is Revenant. Think Compton will score a PGA nom too. This could be the BP list, with Revenant replacing Compton. The shaky candidates seem to be Room, Brooklyn and Bridge of Spies. I think two out of three won't make it. Not sure which two. Brooklyn didn't make it here, so I definitely think it's behind Room if it's between the two. Room being eligible and showing up in AFI list is a surprise in itself. The field is getting rather crowded with Mad Max having done so well so far and Star Wars joining late, so I would put Inside Out on the shaky ground as well. Brooklyn was not eligible. It is not American. |
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| Author: | Dr. Lecter [ Wed Dec 16, 2015 6:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: AFI Top 10 |
Now, yes, it is a surprise that Room was eligible in the first place, but I don't think that shows its strength over Brooklyn which was rightfully not eligible. |
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| Author: | Dr. Lecter [ Wed Dec 16, 2015 8:07 pm ] |
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Isn't the absence of The Hateful Eight rather surprising? |
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| Author: | Darth Indiana Bond [ Thu Dec 17, 2015 2:04 am ] |
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A little, yes, but it is looking like the most overlooked of the Oscar nominee hopefuls |
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| Author: | zwackerm [ Thu Dec 17, 2015 2:56 pm ] |
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Into the Woods, Unbroken and Interstellar all made it on last year. That's probably where Star Wars will end up come Oscar season. |
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| Author: | Dr. Lecter [ Thu Dec 17, 2015 3:12 pm ] |
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zwackerm wrote: Into the Woods, Unbroken and Interstellar all made it on last year. That's probably where Star Wars will end up come Oscar season. Except that Star Wars is essential American film mythology, had better reviews than those films and will gross more in ten days than those three films combined. |
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| Author: | zwackerm [ Thu Dec 17, 2015 4:10 pm ] |
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Do you think reviews that call it "exciting and well acted, but a bit too familiar" are Oscar worthy? |
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| Author: | Chippy [ Thu Dec 17, 2015 4:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: AFI Top 10 |
If every review said that... maybe. But every review doesn't say that. Spoiler alert: You don't need a 100% on RT to be nominated at the Oscars. |
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| Author: | zwackerm [ Thu Dec 17, 2015 4:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: AFI Top 10 |
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 had 96% at RT and 87% at Metacritic. With a higher (8.3) average rating. So if you think Star Wars is going to get nominated, it's purely because of the box office? Of course Star Wars is "essential American cinema" or whatever, and it's the "first franchise" but Empire Strikes Back couldn't even get a nomination, and the is widely considered the high watermark of the franchise. |
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| Author: | Chippy [ Thu Dec 17, 2015 4:42 pm ] |
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OK fella. Nobody gave a shit about Harry Potter. |
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| Author: | zwackerm [ Thu Dec 17, 2015 4:51 pm ] |
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Chippy wrote: OK fella. Nobody gave a shit about Harry Potter. Well then don't use reviews in your argument if they mean nothing. |
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| Author: | Chippy [ Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: AFI Top 10 |
They do mean something. What the hell are you talking about. Just because the 8th HP film got great reviews and no nomination doesn't mean the 7th SW film that got great reviews isn't going to get nominated. |
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| Author: | zwackerm [ Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:06 pm ] |
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Chippy wrote: They do mean something. What the hell are you talking about. Just because the 8th HP film got great reviews and no nomination doesn't mean the 7th SW film that got great reviews isn't going to get nominated. Why didn't Empire get nominated then? |
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| Author: | Chippy [ Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:08 pm ] |
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Because? |
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| Author: | zwackerm [ Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:19 pm ] |
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Chippy wrote: Because? Exactly. There is no reason to think TFA will get a nomination if Empire didn't. Plus, with The Martian, Mad Max and Inside Out all other huge blockbusters in the race, the Academy doesn't need a ratings booster this year. |
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| Author: | Darth Indiana Bond [ Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: AFI Top 10 |
Probably because George Lucas had a bad report with the Academy during the production of Empire. Due to creative differences involving the opening credits, he left the Directors Guild and Hollywood has not looked upon him favorably since. |
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| Author: | zwackerm [ Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: AFI Top 10 |
The first Star Wars was nominated more for the technical ground it broke. Empire wasn't as groundbreaking on a technical level. Nor is TFA. |
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| Author: | Chippy [ Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: AFI Top 10 |
"lol why would we want EVEN MORE viewers watching? that's cray. we hate money!" -zwackerms idea of a money hungry producer |
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| Author: | BK [ Fri Dec 18, 2015 5:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: AFI Top 10 |
I love Harry Potter. Number one franchise. But it's not American. At all. They would have never nominated it. Ever. Also, DH1 was the best HP movie. But just like how MJ2 is the best HG movie, they are not for American tastes- or rather mass audience tastes. |
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