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Dr. Lecter wrote:

Our preference or who we think will win?

Flava'dÃ¢â‚¬Â¡ wrote:

Freeman is gonna win. Nothing more can be said.

andaroo wrote:

02 Virgina Madsen - If Madsen ends up winning this on the night, start looking for Sideways to be a player in the Best Picture category.

Maverikk wrote:

Blanchett shows that she has range far beyond playing one of the one dimensional characters in LOTR, and I think that , as well as playing a Hollywood icon, will be enough to make this a pretty sure bet. (you probably didn't like that comment, did you, andaroo? Any guesses why I made it?)

andaroo wrote:

Maverikk wrote:

I really don't care at the moment to be quite honest. :neutral:

Since you do not make your logic clear, I must assume that you are just doing it out of spite because you seem to think that I will get all flamingly upset because you seem to be obsessed with taking Lord of the Rings down as many notches as possible, which isn't new or surprising coming from you so why bother getting in a fight about it or calling me out?

Maverikk wrote:

No, because you decided to take an unnecessary shot at Star Wars.

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Sometimes, I don't think you realize that you and others do that stuff.

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You only realize when it's done about LOTR.

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This is why I don't take you seriously when you get upset over shots taken at LOTR, because you take shots like that , and don't say anything when others do.

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Those kinds of comments are what lead to comments that I know will get to you. Wouldn't it be better not to have those comments at all? :smile:

andaroo wrote:

It wasn't unnecessary, it was my opinion?

andaroo wrote:

I don't care. It was innocuous comment on a messageboard. It wasn't a thesis.

andaroo wrote:

I didn't reply to you because you said something about Lord of the Rings, you SPECIFICALLY called me out in your topic. You are baiting me into argument.

andaroo wrote:

Mav, respect is a two way street. You need to allow me to say what I need to say, god knows I don't post after every single one of your pot shots at movies I like.

andaroo wrote:

Wouldn't it do you better if you would just let things go and stop being so pent up about it?

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but encouraged those who were pro PJ by saying nothing

Author:	Anonymous [ Tue Feb 15, 2005 9:50 am ]
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WINNERS Oscar Winners Picture: Million Dollar Baby Director: Clint Eastwood Actor: Jamie Foxx, Ray Original Screenplay: Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind Foreign Language Film: The Sea Inside Best Actress: Hilary Swank Best Song: The Motorcycle Diaries Original Score - Finding Neverland Documentary Short: Mighty Times - The Children's March Sound Effects Editing - The Incredibles Sound - Ray Cinematography - The Aviator Animated Short - Ryan Live Action Short - WASP Visual Effects: Spider-Man 2 Screenplay, Adapted: Sideways Editing: The Aviator Best Documentary: Born into Brothels Best Supporting Actress: Cate Blanchett Art Director: The Aviator Best Supporting Actor: Morgan Freeman Animated Feature: The Incredibles Makeup: Lemony Snicket Costume: The Aviator Chris Rock, radical production changes, no breakout hit, one thing is for sure, this year's Oscars won't be boring. The countdown has begun. The show starts this sunday at 8 PM EST. We had a very successful thread last year during the show. So if you're not throwing a party or are not surrounded by people who love the Oscars, stop by and support your favorite film (or slam one you hate). BEST PICTURE THE AVIATOR FINDING NEVERLAND MILLION DOLLAR BABY RAY SIDEWAYS DIRECTING THE AVIATOR MILLION DOLLAR BABY RAY SIDEWAYS VERA DRAKE ACTOR IN A LEADING ROLE Don Cheadle - HOTEL RWANDA Johnny Depp - FINDING NEVERLAND Leonardo DiCaprio - THE AVIATOR Clint Eastwood - MILLION DOLLAR BABY Jamie Foxx - RAY ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLE Alan Alda - THE AVIATOR Thomas Haden Church - SIDEWAYS Jamie Foxx - COLLATERAL Morgan Freeman - MILLION DOLLAR BABY Clive Owen - CLOSER ACTRESS IN A LEADING ROLE Annette Bening - BEING JULIA Catalina Sandino Moreno - MARIA FULL OF GRACE Imelda Staunton - VERA DRAKE Hilary Swank - MILLION DOLLAR BABY Kate Winslet - ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF THE SPOTLESS MIND ACTRESS IN A SUPPORTING ROLE Cate Blanchett - THE AVIATOR Laura Linney - KINSEY Virginia Madsen - SIDEWAYS Sophie Okonedo - HOTEL RWANDA Natalie Portman - CLOSER WRITING (ADAPTED SCREENPLAY) BEFORE SUNSET FINDING NEVERLAND MILLION DOLLAR BABY THE MOTORCYCLE DIARIES SIDEWAYS WRITING (ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY) THE AVIATOR ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF THE SPOTLESS MIND HOTEL RWANDA THE INCREDIBLES VERA DRAKE ANIMATED FEATURE FILM THE INCREDIBLES SHARK TALE SHREK 2 ART DIRECTION THE AVIATOR FINDING NEVERLAND LEMONY SNICKET'S A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE EVENTS THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA A VERY LONG ENGAGEMENT CINEMATOGRAPHY THE AVIATOR HOUSE OF FLYING DAGGERS THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA A VERY LONG ENGAGEMENT COSTUME DESIGN THE AVIATOR FINDING NEVERLAND LEMONY SNICKET'S A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE EVENTS RAY TROY DOCUMENTARY FEATURE BORN INTO BROTHELS THE STORY OF THE WEEPING CAMEL SUPER SIZE ME TUPAC: RESURRECTION TWIST OF FAITH DOCUMENTARY SHORT SUBJECT AUTISM IS A WORLD THE CHILDREN OF LENINGRADSKY HARDWOOD MIGHTY TIMES: THE CHILDREN'S MARCH SISTER ROSE'S PASSION FILM EDITING THE AVIATOR COLLATERAL FINDING NEVERLAND MILLION DOLLAR BABY RAY FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM AS IT IS IN HEAVEN THE CHORUS DOWNFALL THE SEA INSIDE YESTERDAY MAKEUP LEMONY SNICKET'S A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE EVENTS THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST THE SEA INSIDE MUSIC (SCORE) FINDING NEVERLAND HARRY POTTER AND THE PRISONER OF AZKABAN LEMONY SNICKET'S A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE EVENTS THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST THE VILLAGE MUSIC (SONG) "Accidentally In Love" - SHREK 2 "Al Otro Lado Del RÃƒÂo" - THE MOTORCYCLE DIARIES "Believe" - THE POLAR EXPRESS "Learn To Be Lonely" - THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA "Look To Your Path (Vois Sur Ton Chemin)" - THE CHORUS SHORT FILM (ANIMATED) BIRTHDAY BOY GOPHER BROKE GUARD DOG LORENZO RYAN SHORT FILM (LIVE ACTION) EVERYTHING IN THIS COUNTRY MUST LITTLE TERRORIST 7:35 IN THE MORNING TWO CARS, ONE NIGHT WASP SOUND EDITING THE INCREDIBLES THE POLAR EXPRESS SPIDER-MAN 2 SOUND MIXING THE AVIATOR THE INCREDIBLES THE POLAR EXPRESS RAY SPIDER-MAN 2 VISUAL EFFECTS HARRY POTTER AND THE PRISONER OF AZKABAN I, ROBOT SPIDER-MAN 2

Author:	Anonymous [ Sun Feb 20, 2005 2:49 pm ]
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Supporting Actor Alda Church Foxx Freeman Owen

Author:	Dr. Lecter [ Sun Feb 20, 2005 2:50 pm ]
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Our preference or who we think will win?

Author:	Anonymous [ Sun Feb 20, 2005 2:50 pm ]
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Church, unless the AMPAS offers Freeman a career achievement award.

Author:	Anonymous [ Sun Feb 20, 2005 2:51 pm ]
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Dr. Lecter wrote: Our preference or who we think will win? Hopefully they're the same but who you think is fine.

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Author:	Dr. Lecter [ Sun Feb 20, 2005 2:53 pm ]
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Freeman will win, but my preference at the moment (without having seen Freeman, but the four others) is Clive Owen.

Author:	Snrub [ Sun Feb 20, 2005 3:08 pm ]
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Clive Owen

Author:	andaroo1 [ Sun Feb 20, 2005 3:25 pm ]
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Clive I haven't seen Closer. I'm sorry Clive. I'm assuming you are really good in it from everything that people have said! Alan Alda was great, he had the best scenes in The Aviator with Leo, but his performance is not noteworthy enough to award. Jamie Lets for this topic pretend that the whole conversation about category confusion is eliminated. It's not like Dreamworks is the first one (cough The Hours cough) to get a more leading contendor voted into supporting. Among those, Foxx really deserves the call out for Collateral for playing the cab driver who is just having a bad night. In that script, it would have been easy for both Cruise and Foxx to dip into melodrama and stereotype, but both avoid it wonderfully. Thomas Thomas Hayden Church, of any character this year, took me on a rollercoaster of emotions, from thinking he is a dolt, to discovering his love and his humanity, then making me absolutely loathe him, then, in the end feeling a bit sorry for him. He definately deserves the recognition of the nomination, and in many years, the win. Like any great ensemble though, it's hard to pull him out of a movie that's so tightly wound around the characters that awarding one over the other becomes difficult. Morgan Freeman's performance isn't the biggest stretch of his career, but he still handles it like the old master he is. Regardless of what he has done in the past, I think he deserves this award not because of his lifetime achievement, just for this film, for the bridge he played in Million Dollar Baby. The unspoken concern and love he has for Maggie and most of the patrons of the boxing gym shines through and through. The heartbreaking moment where he gives Maggie one of the biggest choices of her lifetime. He was flawless, and he deserves it. My choices: 01 Freeman 02 Church 03 Foxx 04 Alda Haven't seen Owens.

Author:	Libs [ Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:20 pm ]
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My Preferences (in order): Clive Owen Thomas Haden Church Morgan Freeman Jamie Foxx Alan Alda I'm assuming Freeman will get it over Owen and Church (the nomination's the honor for Alda and Foxx).

Author:	Flava'd vs The World [ Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:21 pm ]
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Freeman is gonna win. Nothing more can be said.

Author:	Anonymous [ Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:25 pm ]
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Flava'dÃ¢â‚¬Â¡ wrote: Freeman is gonna win. Nothing more can be said. Good thing we got that settled. :razz:

Author:	Maverikk [ Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:46 pm ]
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How I think they will rank 1. Morgan Freeman 2. Thomas Hayden Church 3. Clive Owen 4. Alan Alda 5. Jamie Foxx My preference 1. Morgan Freeman 2. Alan Alda 3. Thomas Hayden Church 4. Clive Owen 5. Jamie Foxx (shouldn't even be a nominee in this category) Freeman will take this award without a real challenge IMO.

Author:	Chris [ Sun Feb 20, 2005 8:14 pm ]
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Freeman will probably get it, but Owen deserves it more. Actually, Hayden-Church deserves it more too. My order of preference: 1) Owen 2) Hayden-Church 3) Freeman 4) Alda 5) Foxx

Author:	Anonymous [ Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:33 am ]
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Supporting Actress Blanchett Linney Madsen Okonendo Portman

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Author:	Anonymous [ Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:34 am ]
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Madsen, though I'm a huge fan of Blanchett's performance.

Author:	andaroo1 [ Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:50 am ]
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01 Cate Blanchett - The Aviator won't win one of the big awards without an acting award win. That's my GUT feeling. And Cate is worthy, and she can be seen to be maybe a little "owed" for such a "vicious snub" for Elizabeth which a lot of people felt she deserved. I dunno. 02 Virgina Madsen - If Madsen ends up winning this on the night, start looking for Sideways to be a player in the Best Picture category. 03 Natalie Portman - A strong year for Natalie, and proof she can break out of the Star Wars cardboard roles. She's someone who I can see being nominated more than a few times before ever actually winning, or we may never hear from her at the Academy Awards again. I haven't seen Closer so this is only a theory of her placement. 04 Sophie Okonendo - She was good in Hotel Rwanda, and it wasn't hard to be a stand out in that film, but for whatever reason that film came up short. She was never a serious winner, but she cried in the film, and she was pretty good so I guess the nomination is earned. shrug. 05 Laura Linney - Poor Laura. Kinsey kinda got buried, didn't it? It will happen again, she isn't going anywhere.

Author:	Anonymous [ Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:56 am ]
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andaroo wrote: 02 Virgina Madsen - If Madsen ends up winning this on the night, start looking for Sideways to be a player in the Best Picture category. Good points all around but I want to add something to what you said above. Everyone knows I'm picking Sideways to win BP. But I realize it needs to pick up at least 2, if not 3 other awards IMO to secure BP. That means, screenplay, supporting actress, and hopefully, supporting actor. The supporting awards are usually given out first. Mark my words, if Sideways takes one or both of those, BP is secured.

Author:	Libs [ Mon Feb 21, 2005 11:05 am ]
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In Order of Preference Cate Blanchett Virginia Madsen Natalie Portman Sophie Okonedo Laura Linney (haven't seen Kinsey) I think that, frankly, The Aviator's one and only win in a major category will be here. I won't be surprised if Madsen upsets, though. Okonedo and Linney have no shot, and I have a feeling Portman will be nominated again many more times.

Author:	Maverikk [ Mon Feb 21, 2005 12:06 pm ]
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1. Cate Blanchett 2. Natalie Portman 3. Virginia Madsen 4. Laura Linney 5. Sophie Okonedo Blanchett shows that she has range far beyond playing one of the one dimensional characters in LOTR, and I think that , as well as playing a Hollywood icon, will be enough to make this a pretty sure bet. (you probably didn't like that comment, did you, andaroo? Any guesses why I made it?)

Author:	Dr. Lecter [ Mon Feb 21, 2005 2:48 pm ]
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My preference as well as my prediction both go to Blanchett.

Author:	andaroo1 [ Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:50 pm ]
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Maverikk wrote: Blanchett shows that she has range far beyond playing one of the one dimensional characters in LOTR, and I think that , as well as playing a Hollywood icon, will be enough to make this a pretty sure bet. (you probably didn't like that comment, did you, andaroo? Any guesses why I made it?) I really don't care at the moment to be quite honest. :neutral: Since you do not make your logic clear, I must assume that you are just doing it out of spite because you seem to think that I will get all flamingly upset because you seem to be obsessed with taking Lord of the Rings down as many notches as possible, which isn't new or surprising coming from you so why bother getting in a fight about it or calling me out? I guess that next you will try to make a rebuttal, but we can skip all that by telling me and the audience here if there is another reason why you would say that, if it is important at all to this discussion. I'm not going to get into a Silmarillion argument with you... so... you are on your own on this one. But if you think that Blanchett hasn't proved her range before The Aviator, then I don't know what to say except see: The Missing * Veronica Guerin Heaven Bandits * The Talented Mr. Ripley Elizabeth * Bandits sucks, but Blanchett is pretty good in it. Same with The Missing.

Author:	Maverikk [ Mon Feb 21, 2005 11:49 pm ]
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andaroo wrote: Maverikk wrote: Blanchett shows that she has range far beyond playing one of the one dimensional characters in LOTR, and I think that , as well as playing a Hollywood icon, will be enough to make this a pretty sure bet. (you probably didn't like that comment, did you, andaroo? Any guesses why I made it?) I really don't care at the moment to be quite honest. :neutral: Since you do not make your logic clear, I must assume that you are just doing it out of spite because you seem to think that I will get all flamingly upset because you seem to be obsessed with taking Lord of the Rings down as many notches as possible, which isn't new or surprising coming from you so why bother getting in a fight about it or calling me out? No, because you decided to take an unnecessary shot at Star Wars. Sometimes, I don't think you realize that you and others do that stuff. You only realize when it's done about LOTR. This is why I don't take you seriously when you get upset over shots taken at LOTR, because you take shots like that , and don't say anything when others do. I quote... "03 Natalie Portman - A strong year for Natalie, and proof she can break out of the Star Wars cardboard roles." Now, you can't possibly claim that you didn't know you said that, and you didn't know when you did that, that it wouldn't be noticed. Those kinds of comments are what lead to comments that I know will get to you. Wouldn't it be better not to have those comments at all?

Author:	andaroo1 [ Tue Feb 22, 2005 12:04 am ]
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I want a mod involved in this conversation right now, in reference to your other topic... I view this now as a personal attack. Maverikk wrote: No, because you decided to take an unnecessary shot at Star Wars. It wasn't unnecessary, it was my opinion? Quote: Sometimes, I don't think you realize that you and others do that stuff. I don't care. It was innocuous comment on a messageboard. It wasn't a thesis. Why has this become your crusade? Quote: You only realize when it's done about LOTR. I didn't reply to you because you said something about Lord of the Rings, you SPECIFICALLY called me out in your topic. You are baiting me into argument. Quote: This is why I don't take you seriously when you get upset over shots taken at LOTR, because you take shots like that , and don't say anything when others do. Mav, respect is a two way street. You need to allow me to say what I need to say, god knows I don't post after every single one of your pot shots at movies I like. Quote: Those kinds of comments are what lead to comments that I know will get to you. Wouldn't it be better not to have those comments at all? So because you disagree with "x" comment about movie, then you try to spark an argument instead of just letting innocent pointless internet comment go. Great. Wouldn't it do you better if you would just let things go and stop being so pent up about it? And yes, I know I fought with Lecter the other day, but I was wrong to do that.

Author:	Maverikk [ Tue Feb 22, 2005 12:18 am ]
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andaroo wrote: It wasn't unnecessary, it was my opinion? It's my opinion that Cate was very stiff in LOTR, but if I decided to make the remark, your feathers would have been ruffled. I stayed away from making any comments that I knew would irritate, but you didn't. andaroo wrote: I don't care. It was innocuous comment on a messageboard. It wasn't a thesis. Then don't worry about it so much when others make comments that don't paint LOTR in a good light. You can't have it both ways. andaroo wrote: I didn't reply to you because you said something about Lord of the Rings, you SPECIFICALLY called me out in your topic. You are baiting me into argument. Save it. You replied in another thread when I said King Kong had no chance, and called me out for being anti Peter Jackson, but encouraged those who were pro PJ by saying nothing. I didn't bait you, I just wanted to let you know that I saw what you did, and I'm not foolish enough to believe it wasn't done on purpose. Regardless, I'm not gonna argue about it. andaroo wrote: Mav, respect is a two way street. You need to allow me to say what I need to say, god knows I don't post after every single one of your pot shots at movies I like. andaroo, you comment more than you are willing to admit. If you want me to allow you to say what you want to, then you have to extend the same curtesy to me at all times. andaroo wrote: Wouldn't it do you better if you would just let things go and stop being so pent up about it? Let's not act innocent. If I had made a jab at Cate, I know something would have been said, because it would have been unnecessary for me to say. Natalie Portman has had other roles in which she has showed a broader range, so your comments are redundant at best. Anyway, I'm done talking about it. Feel free to say what you want. :wink:

Author:	andaroo1 [ Tue Feb 22, 2005 12:19 am ]
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Sent a PM to bABA, sick of it. Quote: but encouraged those who were pro PJ by saying nothing If I don't say anything, it's STILL my fault. Great logic there.