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andaroo wrote:

This is how I understand how it works:

During the nominations, guild members who happen to be also Academy members only vote for their guild awards as apply to the Academy and Best Picture.

If you work in Make-Up, you go Best Make-Up and Best Picture.

So if you are a sound guy, you vote for Sound Effects and Sound Effects Editing and Best Picture.

If you are an actor you go Best Actor, Best Actress, Supporting Actor, Supporting Actress, Best Picture.

If you are Clint Eastwood you go Best Picture, Best Director, Best Screenplay, Best Adapted Screenplay, Best Actor, Best Actress, Best Supporting Actor, Best Supporting Actress, Best Score (hehehehe). This explains why M$B is doing so well

j/k

I believe the ballot has three spaces for Best Picture, and they put their top three choices. For the most part, a picture has to have placements mostly in slot 1 and 2 to be nominated (I think it is like 700 slot 1?). So if you had a hardcore audience that wanted say... Mean Girls nominated, all 700 people would have to put Mean Girls in slot one. The entire rest of the academy could ignore it, and it would still be nominated.

Some guilds have scricter rules than others (Score, Make-Up, etc.).

That's just during the nominations.

When it comes to the winners, the entire Academy body gets to vote on every single award. So a film like Lord of the Rings, might not play as well to actors but when the Visual Effects guys get to vote on like... Screenplay, then it can definately swing in Lord of the Ring's favor.

Does that make sense?

Author:	Goldie [ Thu Feb 03, 2005 12:35 am ]
Post subject:	On the Oscars, Forget Yesterday, Today is the Day it Starts.
Oscar ballots mailed to voters ahead of big night Wed Feb 2, 3:01 PM ET LOS ANGELES (AFP) - Final ballots to pick the winners of cinema's top honors, the Academy Awards (news - web sites), were sent to 5,808 Oscar voters, less than four weeks ahead of Hollywood's biggest night. Is it an advantage or disadvantage to anyone that the Oscar voting has waited to start till today? Who benefits?

Author:	andaroo1 [ Thu Feb 03, 2005 12:48 am ]
Post subject:	Re: On the Oscars, Forget Yesterday, Today is the Day it Sta
Goldie wrote: Is it an advantage or disadvantage to anyone that the Oscar voting has waited to start till today? Who benefits? Well it hasn't really "waited", this is just the general order of things, if anything, the last two years have been rushed. And I would imagine that most Academy members know how they are going to vote (but maybe many of them are swayed into seeing some films they missed). Million Dollar Baby and The Aviator are pretty neck and neck. Sideway's good b.o. performance and Ray's apparently amazing debut on DVD keep them as viable alternates but not realistic BP/BD contendors. The damage to Finding Neverland has been done with a very vital BD snub, and of the nominees, it's clear that its the picture this year that was lucky just to be invited to the party. In the public forum (which often doesn't matter): I would say if anybody has been gaining momentum lately it has been Swank and Freeman. Swank seems to grab all the headlines, including those saying that "Benning is just getting the award because she's owed when Swank seems to really deserve it" type of headlines. It should help her to overcome Benning in the end, who's picture is not even accessible to most of the public. Foxx is still a lock and Blanchett, I'm think, will win. But other than some movement in the top categories, I don't think much is different than it was after the DGA. I do think that there is a lot for the Academy to think about this year when awarding Best Director, but I think Best Picture is maybe easier this year and based on stats, the possibility of a split remains a realistic scenario That's my perception at least.

Author:	Goldie [ Thu Feb 03, 2005 12:51 am ]
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Here are some of the big ones to discuss. ACTOR IN A LEADING ROLE Don Cheadle - HOTEL RWANDA Johnny Depp - FINDING NEVERLAND Leonardo DiCaprio - THE AVIATOR Clint Eastwood - MILLION DOLLAR BABY Jamie Foxx - RAY ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLE Alan Alda - THE AVIATOR Thomas Haden Church - SIDEWAYS Jamie Foxx - COLLATERAL Morgan Freeman - MILLION DOLLAR BABY Clive Owen - CLOSER ACTRESS IN A LEADING ROLE Annette Bening - BEING JULIA Catalina Sandino Moreno - MARIA FULL OF GRACE Imelda Staunton - VERA DRAKE Hilary Swank - MILLION DOLLAR BABY Kate Winslet - ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF THE SPOTLESS MIND ACTRESS IN A SUPPORTING ROLE Cate Blanchett - THE AVIATOR Laura Linney - KINSEY Virginia Madsen - SIDEWAYS Sophie Okonedo - HOTEL RWANDA Natalie Portman - CLOSER DIRECTING THE AVIATOR MILLION DOLLAR BABY RAY SIDEWAYS VERA DRAKE FILM EDITING THE AVIATOR COLLATERAL FINDING NEVERLAND MILLION DOLLAR BABY RAY MAKEUP LEMONY SNICKET'S A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE EVENTS THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST THE SEA INSIDE MUSIC (SCORE) FINDING NEVERLAND HARRY POTTER AND THE PRISONER OF AZKABAN LEMONY SNICKET'S A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE EVENTS THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST THE VILLAGE BEST PICTURE THE AVIATOR FINDING NEVERLAND MILLION DOLLAR BABY RAY SIDEWAYS SOUND EDITING THE INCREDIBLES THE POLAR EXPRESS SPIDER-MAN 2 SOUND MIXING THE AVIATOR THE INCREDIBLES THE POLAR EXPRESS RAY SPIDER-MAN 2 VISUAL EFFECTS HARRY POTTER AND THE PRISONER OF AZKABAN I, ROBOT SPIDER-MAN 2 WRITING (ADAPTED SCREENPLAY) BEFORE SUNSET FINDING NEVERLAND MILLION DOLLAR BABY THE MOTORCYCLE DIARIES SIDEWAYS WRITING (ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY) THE AVIATOR ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF THE SPOTLESS MIND HOTEL RWANDA THE INCREDIBLES VERA DRAKE

Author:	MikeQ. [ Thu Feb 03, 2005 1:09 am ]
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Since add-rock has sort of made this the outline your thoughts thread, I'll do the same: I think Best Actor is the one category closest to a lock, for Jamie Foxx in Ray. Best Supporting Actor and Supporting Actress are fairly clear, going to Morgan Freeman and Cate Blanchett. Best Actress is the fuzziest in my opinion. I can see the award conceivably going to Imelda, Hilary, or Annette. I first thought Hilary, then I thought Annette after her win, and then I led way over towards Imelda. But now Hilary is jumping back up again. I'm still lost. Best Picture is going to an obvious The Aviator, which has won elsewhere Best Director is a total toss up between Scorcese and Eastwood, and this will be extremely close between the two, in my opinion, even though statistically, Eastwood is way ahead with his wins with the Globes and DGA. Original Screenplay is between Aviator and Eternal Sunshine, ending up going to Eternal Sunshine. Adapted Screenplay is between Sideways and Million Dollar Baby, ending up going to Million Dollar Baby (wow, could Sideways possibly be shut out?) Just my thoughts. PEACE, Mike

Author:	Goldie [ Thu Feb 03, 2005 4:41 am ]
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Now I am not up on these things except Swank for Best Actress and Eastwood for Director but the ones that seem to have been lost in the dust - if they ever really had any chance. ACTOR IN A LEADING ROLE Don Cheadle - HOTEL RWANDA* Johnny Depp - FINDING NEVERLAND Leonardo DiCaprio - THE AVIATOR Clint Eastwood - MILLION DOLLAR BABY - Don't think he ever was a leader here. Jamie Foxx - RAY ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLE Alan Alda - THE AVIATOR Thomas Haden Church - SIDEWAYS Jamie Foxx - COLLATERAL Morgan Freeman - MILLION DOLLAR BABY Clive Owen - CLOSER ACTRESS IN A LEADING ROLE Annette Bening - BEING JULIA Catalina Sandino Moreno - MARIA FULL OF GRACE Imelda Staunton - VERA DRAKE Hilary Swank - MILLION DOLLAR BABY Kate Winslet - ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF THE SPOTLESS MIND - and no Neverland nomination ACTRESS IN A SUPPORTING ROLE Cate Blanchett - THE AVIATOR Laura Linney - KINSEY Virginia Madsen - SIDEWAYS Sophie Okonedo - HOTEL RWANDA Natalie Portman - CLOSER - Maybe she still has a chance but people have stopped talking about. DIRECTING THE AVIATOR - poor Marty MILLION DOLLAR BABY RAY SIDEWAYS VERA DRAKE FILM EDITING THE AVIATOR COLLATERAL FINDING NEVERLAND MILLION DOLLAR BABY RAY MAKEUP LEMONY SNICKET'S A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE EVENTS THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST THE SEA INSIDE MUSIC (SCORE) FINDING NEVERLAND HARRY POTTER AND THE PRISONER OF AZKABAN LEMONY SNICKET'S A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE EVENTS THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST THE VILLAGE BEST PICTURE THE AVIATOR FINDING NEVERLAND MILLION DOLLAR BABY RAY SIDEWAYS SOUND EDITING THE INCREDIBLES THE POLAR EXPRESS SPIDER-MAN 2 SOUND MIXING THE AVIATOR THE INCREDIBLES THE POLAR EXPRESS RAY SPIDER-MAN 2 VISUAL EFFECTS HARRY POTTER AND THE PRISONER OF AZKABAN I, ROBOT SPIDER-MAN 2 WRITING (ADAPTED SCREENPLAY) BEFORE SUNSET FINDING NEVERLAND MILLION DOLLAR BABY THE MOTORCYCLE DIARIES SIDEWAYS WRITING (ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY) THE AVIATOR ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF THE SPOTLESS MIND HOTEL RWANDA THE INCREDIBLES VERA DRAKE

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Author:	Goldie [ Thu Feb 03, 2005 4:48 am ]
Post subject:	Re: On the Oscars, Forget Yesterday, Today is the Day it Sta
Goldie wrote: Oscar ballots mailed to voters ahead of big night Wed Feb 2, 3:01 PM ET LOS ANGELES (AFP) - Final ballots to pick the winners of cinema's top honors, the Academy Awards (news - web sites), were sent to 5,808 Oscar voters, less than four weeks ahead of Hollywood's biggest night. Is it an advantage or disadvantage to anyone that the Oscar voting has waited to start till today? Who benefits? Now let's get this straight - I think I heard except for Foreign all 5808 voters - vote for all categories. Someone please confirm who votes for what?

Author:	andaroo1 [ Fri Feb 04, 2005 11:15 am ]
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This is how I understand how it works: During the nominations, guild members who happen to be also Academy members only vote for their guild awards as apply to the Academy and Best Picture. If you work in Make-Up, you go Best Make-Up and Best Picture. So if you are a sound guy, you vote for Sound Effects and Sound Effects Editing and Best Picture. If you are an actor you go Best Actor, Best Actress, Supporting Actor, Supporting Actress, Best Picture. If you are Clint Eastwood you go Best Picture, Best Director, Best Screenplay, Best Adapted Screenplay, Best Actor, Best Actress, Best Supporting Actor, Best Supporting Actress, Best Score (hehehehe). This explains why M$B is doing so well j/k I believe the ballot has three spaces for Best Picture, and they put their top three choices. For the most part, a picture has to have placements mostly in slot 1 and 2 to be nominated (I think it is like 700 slot 1?). So if you had a hardcore audience that wanted say... Mean Girls nominated, all 700 people would have to put Mean Girls in slot one. The entire rest of the academy could ignore it, and it would still be nominated. Some guilds have scricter rules than others (Score, Make-Up, etc.). That's just during the nominations. When it comes to the winners, the entire Academy body gets to vote on every single award. So a film like Lord of the Rings, might not play as well to actors but when the Visual Effects guys get to vote on like... Screenplay, then it can definately swing in Lord of the Ring's favor. Does that make sense?

Author:	Goldie [ Sat Feb 05, 2005 12:42 am ]
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andaroo wrote: This is how I understand how it works: During the nominations, guild members who happen to be also Academy members only vote for their guild awards as apply to the Academy and Best Picture. If you work in Make-Up, you go Best Make-Up and Best Picture. So if you are a sound guy, you vote for Sound Effects and Sound Effects Editing and Best Picture. If you are an actor you go Best Actor, Best Actress, Supporting Actor, Supporting Actress, Best Picture. If you are Clint Eastwood you go Best Picture, Best Director, Best Screenplay, Best Adapted Screenplay, Best Actor, Best Actress, Best Supporting Actor, Best Supporting Actress, Best Score (hehehehe). This explains why M$B is doing so well j/k I believe the ballot has three spaces for Best Picture, and they put their top three choices. For the most part, a picture has to have placements mostly in slot 1 and 2 to be nominated (I think it is like 700 slot 1?). So if you had a hardcore audience that wanted say... Mean Girls nominated, all 700 people would have to put Mean Girls in slot one. The entire rest of the academy could ignore it, and it would still be nominated. Some guilds have scricter rules than others (Score, Make-Up, etc.). That's just during the nominations. When it comes to the winners, the entire Academy body gets to vote on every single award. So a film like Lord of the Rings, might not play as well to actors but when the Visual Effects guys get to vote on like... Screenplay, then it can definately swing in Lord of the Ring's favor. Does that make sense? Yes, thanks.

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