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Author:  roo [ Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Surviving The Oscar Season: Step 1 - Don't Give A Fuck
I posted it. It's my PM.

You are no better than all the people you made fun of behind their backs because of their rabid fanboy trappings. And quite frankly he did it to a number of you.

Don't give a fuck? Don't bother looking me up in Seattle then quite frankly.
Author:  roo [ Fri Dec 07, 2007 1:10 pm ]
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Civility is posting a private PM?

Take a step back here Loyal. Who broke the civility?

Perspective. You need some. You reviewed Pirates 3 from the perspective of someone who was fed up with the over-hype of the Pirates series. You told me this directly. Sure we both disliked the film, there is reason for that...

How is that any different from what I'm saying? I'm saying that your overhype for this film is triggering the overhype button in me that is immediately going to distance me from this film. I probably will not even see it now, until DVD because it won't be until then that I can approach it objectively.
Author:  roo [ Fri Dec 07, 2007 1:49 pm ]
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loyalfromlondon wrote:
There was nothing private in there and you decided to out yourself, not me. I was perfectly okay with it being just another mean movie email (I get them quite often).

Oh please don't even try to use that logic, look at how it's written. Of course people are going to assume it's one of like 5 people, me included (I mean I said "Batman people" for chrissakes).

I have no problem with you overhyping this into dust and playing the martyr. I just thought I should tell you you are approaching levels of annoying. I only want an apology for posting a PM on a private board and calling me a fool without bothering to reply to my PM in any constructive manner. That's inexcusable. You could have approached this subject with far more tact (you didn't need to mention the PM at all) or confronted me directly if it really bothers you.

This is why I think you are dispicable at the moment, not because you are a Sweeny Todd fan.

The fact that you don't seem to understand this makes me angry.

Quote:
I would never ever allow one person or group of people dictate how I feel about a film.

But you are letting the BFCA, Oscars, BAFTA, WB, etc. at least influence your opinion going into the film. You are as influenced by outside forces as anyone from my perspective. Sure, you can somewhat extricate yourself from that, but not completely.

I don't see why one would deny that, it's the name of the game, it's part of the hype machine. Especially for a piece of cinema you have not even seen.
Author:  MikeQ. [ Fri Dec 07, 2007 1:54 pm ]
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I don't know about the rest of the stuff you're arguing over, but I definitely wouldn't approve of posting someone's PM, whether done anonymously or not (there's been a breach of trust either way). It is in the very definition that a PM is private. Hence it being called PRIVATE message. There's no ambiguity there. When I send a PM it is intended for that person only, and I would be upset if someone posted it publicly.

Peace,
Mike
Author:  Shack [ Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:25 pm ]
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I have no problem with the Sweeney pimping, though I'm an STD and Burton lover so I guess it's a different situation for me. For the record, that sig and some of the videos have been brilliant.

Annnnyways after the Mav fiasco in WTL's year, I try to keep a head in Oscar season. That's partly because I'm older too, naturally.

I definitley agree that any kind of "game" like Oscar season or sports has to be taken lightly, when people get insane invested in it, heads roll. Sports forums are definitley worse though, or at least the ones I visit.
Author:  Bradley Witherberry [ Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:53 pm ]
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Is this a twelve step program like AA?
Author:  makeshift [ Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:37 pm ]
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Not that it matters at this point, but I could tell it was from Roo almost right away.
Author:  makeshift [ Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:42 pm ]
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loyalfromlondon wrote:
makeshift wrote:
Not that it matters at this point, but I could tell it was from Roo almost right away.


was it "the Batman people" line

I'd never heard him use that terminology before.


I've never heard him use it either.

Just the writing style and some other clues.
Author:  Webslinger [ Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:28 pm ]
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Actually, this is a pretty sound piece of advice in predicting the Oscars. Of the movies currently on my top ten list, the only one close to being in the running for a Picture nomination is all the way down at #6, three of my top movies of the year (Zodiac, Gone Baby Gone, and Eastern Promises) could conceivably not be nominated for anything, and No Country for Old Men- a movie I found myself somewhat disappointed with- could very well win it all.

If you go with your personal picks in all your predictions, you're pretty much fucked unless your taste is 100% in line with the Academy. We can sit here and bitch about which movies the Academy does and does not include, but in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't mean a thing.It's not like a multitude of Oscar voters are going to see that Internet groups don't like a certain movie and then just turn around and ignore it. Additionally, with hardly anything in the way of precursors, the race is still very much up in the air.

As is said constantly at Awards Daily, nobody knows anything.
Author:  DP07 [ Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:27 am ]
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andaroo wrote:
I posted it. It's my PM.

You are no better than all the people you made fun of behind their backs because of their rabid fanboy trappings. And quite frankly he did it to a number of you.

Don't give a fuck? Don't bother looking me up in Seattle then quite frankly.


ha, you left out the Matrix fans.

Anyway, you can survive the oscar season pretty well my making 2 assertive posts in Jan about who will win. Then finding out, and lashing out at the academy either way in another post or 2.
Author:  Dr. Lecter [ Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Surviving The Oscar Season: Step 1 - Don't Give A Fuck
makeshift wrote:
Not that it matters at this point, but I could tell it was from Roo almost right away.


Hehe, same here, even before I saw Roo's post.

Both of you can do better, guys. Yes, Loyal's Sweeney Todd fanboy ravings are a bit annoying, but frankly he's not the one who pimps the film the most on here and for the longest time. We all know who I'm talking about. Does it have an effect of wanting to dislike a movie? On some it does which is a known psychological effect. On others, however, it has the effect of wanting to see it even more, so I guess that equals things out. Loyal's pimping a movie hard each season, so why not? If he's right, good for him, maybe he should be after being owned the previous Oscar seasons anyway. If not, we all will have all the more fun laughing at him for a week or so and then forget it till the next Oscar season.

Loyal, though, should not have posted the PM on here. That's just one of the things you shouldn't be doing. As long as Loyal doesn't walk from thread to thread proclaiming "All your moviez r suxxorZ!11! Only ST RULES!!!" that's tolerable. Though he's getting close to that with his wishing for Atonement to be snubbed :P

So, yeah, this is my perspective on the whole (non-)issue.
Author:  Dr. Lecter [ Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Surviving The Oscar Season: Step 1 - Don't Give A Fuck
loyalfromlondon wrote:
Dr. Lecter wrote:
Loyal's pimping a movie hard each season, so why not? If he's right, good for him, maybe he should be after being owned the previous Oscar seasons anyway. If not, we all will have all the more fun laughing at him for a week or so and then forget it till the next Oscar season.


That's what I call a win/win. :funny:

A lesser man would have committed seppuku after my YEAR-LONG thread on Dreamgirls. :unsure:

I really don't mean to irritate anyone, I'm just a massive Oscar fan and have been very keen on being active in this forum over the past several years.


And that's all fine. We all have a movie to pimp to a certain degree. Well, you pimp Sweeney Todd to a much bigger degree than I do it with TWBB, but the result is similar. If TWBB goes out empty ah well, as long as a worthy movie wins the Oscar, I don't care if it's the one I've been rooting for. So far I haven't seen a single of the potential BP nominees anyway.
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