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Ratatouille for Best Picture nom club
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Author:  Tyler [ Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:43 pm ]
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Now, it has maybe a 3% shot at it, if that, but fuck, it deserves it. Who's in?
Author:  Jiffy [ Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:16 pm ]
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ME!
Author:  Webslinger [ Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:42 pm ]
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Not a shot in hell.
Author:  Chippy [ Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:43 pm ]
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Get me in this!!!
Author:  Jonathan [ Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:21 pm ]
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The angle Disney is going out with the "Best Reviewed Film of the Year...Around the World" Tagline is seriously brill, probably one of the very best to emerge this season so far.

Shame it won't get it to the big prize. :(
Author:  Jiffy [ Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:06 pm ]
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Haha, I also like the "Worldwide Gross to Date (And Still Not Full)" line.
Author:  Tyler [ Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:46 am ]
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Those posters are awesome.

Good find, Loyal.
Author:  billybobwashere [ Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:10 am ]
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i would absolutely love it. it would make me love the Oscars more than anything. But it's not happening.
Author:  Andrew [ Fri Dec 07, 2007 6:20 pm ]
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I'd give my left testicle to see a BP nom, it's not going to happen though. I love that they're trying.
Author:  Groucho [ Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:22 pm ]
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I think the Academy specifically created the Best Animated Feature category to prevent these films from taking away the glory of "real" movies. In some ways, it makes perfect sense that the best-reviewed film of the year would at least get a nomination, but it's sadly not gonna happen.

It should easily win Best Animated Feature though. I mean, really, what comes close?
Author:  Andrew [ Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:39 pm ]
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I think it comes back to the popular (mis)conception that animation is a genre, not just a medium. As Groucho said while the Best Animated Feature award exists it'll be practically impossible for an animated film to get in BP.
Author:  Groucho [ Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:29 pm ]
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Oh, it absolutly sucks.

My film background is in writing about animation, having started and edited Animato magazine for many years. And that was one thing I was always pushing for: When analyzing a good film, you ask: Is it well directed? Well written? Well acted? and so on... Why does "Is it live action" have anything to do with whether a film is good or not?

So shouldn't Best Picture be truly be an award for whatever film was best that year? So what if it was animated, or in a foreign language, or even a documentary?

I was still editing Animato when Beauty and the Beast came out and the issue that was big was simple: How could it be nominated for Best Picture but not Best Director? More than any live action film, the animation director controls his film right down to each individual frame. The film didn't animate itself!
Author:  MovieDude [ Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:48 pm ]
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Groucho wrote:
I think the Academy specifically created the Best Animated Feature category to prevent these films from taking away the glory of "real" movies. In some ways, it makes perfect sense that the best-reviewed film of the year would at least get a nomination, but it's sadly not gonna happen.

It should easily win Best Animated Feature though. I mean, really, what comes close?


Persepolis is 100% on RT with 19 reviews in so far. They say it's even better than the graphic novels, which were really something on their own terms. If Ratatouille isn't nominated for Best Picture I'm sure it'll win Best Animated Picture. But, and this is a huge but, were it to theoretically get a Best Picture nomination, I think that many would feel that's reward enough and might vote for Persepolis instead. Even then it'd be a surprise, but were this last year I do think it'd have a strong chance of winning.
Author:  MovieDude [ Fri Dec 07, 2007 11:13 pm ]
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loyalfromlondon wrote:
wait, can you be nominated in both?


Theoretically, why not? Logistically it'd take a small miracle. But it's not like Disney has anything else to campaign for, unless some people think that *snort* Enchanted still has a shot. :funny:
Author:  Jonathan [ Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:19 am ]
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loyalfromlondon wrote:
wait, can you be nominated in both?


Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon and Life is Beautiful were both nommed for both Picture and Foreign Language, why not? When it comes down to it, it's just plain discrimination against animation keeping it from getting a shot at the big dance. Sad, but true.
Author:  Tyler [ Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:48 pm ]
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I'm hoping some critics are going to give this end-of-the-year love...
Author:  snack [ Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:06 am ]
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Sun Ra wrote:
I'm hoping some critics are going to give this end-of-the-year love...


A.O. Scott will. And he's one of the most influential critics around.
Author:  Tyler [ Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:55 am ]
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Fucking Critic awards. It got a 96 on MC for Christ's sake...and no recognition.
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