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Author: | MikeQ. [ Tue Oct 02, 2007 1:22 pm ] |
Post subject: | "The Nominations Dominator" |
I miss the years when there was a film that would dominate the Oscar nominations with 11, 12, 13 or even 14 nominations. I find it exciting! The last couple years have been sucky in that respect. Let's take a look. 1993: Schindler's List = 12 1994: Forrest Gump = 13 1995: Braveheart = 10 1996: The English Patient = 12 1997: Titanic = 14 1998: Shakespeare in Love = 13 & Saving Private Ryan = 11 1999: American Beauty = 8 2000: Gladiator = 12 2001: The Fellowship of the Ring = 13 2002: Chicago = 13 2003: Return of the King = 11 2004: The Aviator = 11 1999 is the only "low" year. Every year from 1993 to 2004 (except for '95 and '99) had a film that scored 11 to 14 nominations. 1995 had Braveheart with still an impressive 10 nominations, as well. Now let's take a look at the last two years: 2005: Brokeback Mountain = 8 (No Best Picture win) 2006: Dreamgirls = 8 (No Best Picture, Director or Screenplay nominations) Booorrrring! So, are there are any films this year that could potentially be the "nominations dominator"? Could we return back to the era where at least one film would trump 'em all with 11-14 nominations? Is it likely to happen? *crosses fingers* Or unlikely? And how many nominations? Let's discuss. Peace, Mike |
Author: | Dr. Lecter [ Tue Oct 02, 2007 1:38 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: "The Nominations Dominator" |
The Academy likes to spread the wealth. With The Golden Age disappointing, I don't really see a single film sweeping the noms. Somethinbg like Atonement could get 8-9 noms probably, American Gangster maybe around 7-8 noms and There Will Be Blood about 7-9 noms, but I don't see any really scoring more than that. |
Author: | MikeQ. [ Tue Oct 02, 2007 2:01 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: "The Nominations Dominator" |
Dr. Lecter wrote: The Academy likes to spread the wealth. With The Golden Age disappointing, I don't really see a single film sweeping the noms. Somethinbg like Atonement could get 8-9 noms probably, American Gangster maybe around 7-8 noms and There Will Be Blood about 7-9 noms, but I don't see any really scoring more than that. That's not what I wanted to hear. ![]() Peace, Mike |
Author: | Jonathan [ Tue Oct 02, 2007 2:53 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: "The Nominations Dominator" |
I've got Atonement pegged at 12 nominations, so don't lose hope! ![]() Picture Director Actor (Day-Lewis) S. Actor (P. Dano) Adapted Screenplay Art Direction Cinematography Costume Design Film Editing Score Makeup? (Spans 30 years, plenty of aging makeup potential) I think the key here is that there are a lot more period/epic-y films that aren't disappointments this year, and ones with plenty of technical marvel. In the last two years the only nominees that took place more than 50 ago were Good Night/Good Luck and Letters from Iwo Jima, and they cost $7.5 and $15 million respectively. Granted, Atonement and TWBB didn't exactly break the bank (Costing $35 and $25 million respectively), though I think they'll scream out to the techs a lot more than those other two. We'll see, I guess. |
Author: | Rod [ Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:11 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: "The Nominations Dominator" |
Atonement is more or less a lock for 7. Picture, Director, Screenplay, Actor and Actress and Score and Cinematography. Then there's Costume (likely) Supporting Actress (I think at least one of the actresses will make it. Redgrave essentially has a cameo but is still getting great reviews for her short appearance). Sound and Sound editing (war sequences) Editing. Spans over a long period of time. Art Direction (very likely) Makeup (a bit iffy but...) Unless it ends up not being as strong of a player in the top categories (unlikely at this point) I don't see how it could get anything less than 10 nominations. I really really do think The English Patient is a good comparison. |
Author: | Dr. Lecter [ Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:40 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: "The Nominations Dominator" |
The Actor category is going to be very fierece, so I wouldn't quite put McAvoy as a lock in there. It's also not a lock for Make-Up, definitely (but you missed Cinematography which it is more likely to score for). |
Author: | Rod [ Tue Oct 02, 2007 4:01 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: "The Nominations Dominator" |
My post? I put cinematography and score as locks together because in my mind they go hand in hand ![]() And make-up= iffy. As I see it it will get everything Pride & Prejudice plust at least 3 more (picture, screenplay, director). I have a hard time seeing it not pick up at least 3 more nomination elsewhere if it becomes a top contender for the best picture prize. |
Author: | Dr. Lecter [ Tue Oct 02, 2007 4:21 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: "The Nominations Dominator" |
Rod wrote: My post? I put cinematography and score as locks together because in my mind they go hand in hand ![]() And make-up= iffy. As I see it it will get everything Pride & Prejudice plust at least 3 more (picture, screenplay, director). I have a hard time seeing it not pick up at least 3 more nomination elsewhere if it becomes a top contender for the best picture prize. My bad, got something mixed up... |
Author: | MikeQ. [ Tue Oct 02, 2007 5:40 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: "The Nominations Dominator" |
loyalfromlondon wrote: I've complained about the same thing Mike over the past few years. Dreamgirls should have had 12 noms or more but it fucked up. I think this year will have slightly higher totals overall for the 5 BP noms than years past but still not massive double digits. I would have liked to have seen that. I just like it when one film explodes with nominations. It creates a buzz. Come onnnnnnn Atonement. Let's see 14 noms! Let's make this a killer year. Peace, Mike |
Author: | MikeQ. [ Tue Oct 02, 2007 5:41 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: "The Nominations Dominator" |
Actually, I'd love to see another Shakespeare in Love / Saving Private Ryan year (13 and 11 noms respectively). Two films with double digit nominations, both nominated for the biggies. Now that is fun. Peace, Mike |
Author: | MovieDude [ Tue Oct 02, 2007 6:40 pm ] |
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American Gangster could also definitely hit double digits this year, and so far the buzz on it is strong enough for me to think it's possible. |
Author: | Raffiki [ Wed Oct 03, 2007 5:19 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: "The Nominations Dominator" |
American Gangster will not hit double digits. I'd bet alot on that! If Atonement lives up to the critical acclaim it has received thus far, it should be a shoe-in for 9-10 nominations. I agree with Rod, Atonement has at least 7 locked up at this point. For me those 7 would be Picture, Director, Adapted Screenplay, Editing, Cinematography, Score, and Art Direction. I think it will definitely get some acting attention, I just don't know what yet. There is tough competition for the Actor race and I don't know which category Knightley will end up in. There are two films that could also potentially get double digit noms and alas, they are practically the only 2 films that we have yet to hear almost any word from. If they do happen to fulfill the high expectations they carry, here are the possibilities... Sweeney Todd Best Picture Best Director Best Actor Best Actress Best Adapted Screenplay Best Editing Best Art Direction Best Costume Design Best Sound Mixing/Editing Best Makeup (Best Cinematography) Charlie Wilson's War Best Picture Best Director Best Actor Best Supporting Actress (Best Supporting Actor) Best Adapted Screenplay Best Editing Best Art Direction (Best Costume) (Best Score) I see Charlie Wilson's War getting around 7-8 nominations. Atonement 9 nomination. Sweeney Todd 10 nominations.... if of course they all become major players. If Sweeney Todd is good, then it should have no problem collecting nominations left and right. |
Author: | Dr. Lecter [ Wed Oct 03, 2007 5:58 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: "The Nominations Dominator" |
I don't think Sweeny Todd will get a BP/BD nom, so not too many noms for it, IMO. Just lots of tech stuff. |
Author: | MadGez [ Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:28 am ] |
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I think it will be between There Will Be Blood and Atonement for 10+ noms. |
Author: | Levy [ Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:18 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: "The Nominations Dominator" |
Rod wrote: Atonement is more or less a lock for 7. Picture, Director, Screenplay, Actor and Actress and Score and Cinematography. Then there's Costume (likely) Supporting Actress (I think at least one of the actresses will make it. Redgrave essentially has a cameo but is still getting great reviews for her short appearance). Sound and Sound editing (war sequences) Editing. Spans over a long period of time. Art Direction (very likely) Makeup (a bit iffy but...) Unless it ends up not being as strong of a player in the top categories (unlikely at this point) I don't see how it could get anything less than 10 nominations. I really really do think The English Patient is a good comparison. no make-up involved - maybe in the hospital scenes a bit, but not Oscar material. Lock: Picture Director Knightley McAvoy Adapted Screenplay Cinematography Editing Art Direction Likely: Costumes Score Unlikely: Sound Sound Editing Sup. Actress |
Author: | Shack [ Mon Oct 08, 2007 12:46 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: "The Nominations Dominator" |
Hmm, Atonement getting so many noms, maybe it can win after all |
Author: | Corpse [ Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:33 am ] |
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Raffiki wrote: Sweeney Todd Best Picture Best Director Best Actor Best Actress BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR (Rickman) Best Adapted Screenplay Best Editing Best Art Direction Best Costume Design Best Sound Mixing/Editing Best Makeup (Best Cinematography) |
Author: | Price [ Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:19 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: "The Nominations Dominator" |
This year I don't see a picture really dominating, although some could come close to double digits, but next year there is a movie that if it's well received, could be a lock for 10+ nominations, as it can score in acting + technicals nominations, and that is Baz Luhrmann's Australia. |
Author: | Raffiki [ Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:58 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: "The Nominations Dominator" |
As I see it now, Atonement is the only one that has a decent chance. Charlie Wilson fell from my list after the trailer. not that it looked bad, but I thought it was going to be more serious than semi-humorous/satirical. Then again, it's Nichols. I keep going back and forth on this one but I'm pretty sure number wise, it still won't have what it takes to get near 10. I'm still holding out on Sweeney Todd just because it's a musical but the lack of buzz and the sub-stellar trailer has also dropped it from my list. |
Author: | Jim Halpert [ Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:20 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: "The Nominations Dominator" |
sweeny todd is too weird for the academy to award with big nominations. count on it |
Author: | MikeQ. [ Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:42 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: "The Nominations Dominator" |
I'm fairly convinced now that at least one film will act as a "Nominations Dominator" this year and receive double digit nominations, and I think that film will be Sweeney Todd. It has potential in up to 12 different categories I think. If any other film were to hit the double digit mark, I think Atonement could make it as well. Both Sweeney Todd and Atonement are Best Picture/Director material, have strong acting across the board and could nab lead and supporting nominations, and can hit up a slew of technical/artistic categories due to the nature of the films (one is a period piece, and the other an extravagant musical). Atonement is also pretty much guaranteed a Best Score nomination, as I see it. I see both as nabbing Adapted Screenplay noms for their adaptations from book/stage to screen. So, the potential is there for both. Peace, Mike |
Author: | Raffiki [ Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:52 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: "The Nominations Dominator" |
Yep. I never should have doubted myself ![]() Picture Director Actor (S. Actor?) Adapted Screenplay Art Direction Costume Editing (Makeup) (Cinematography) Sound Editing/Mixing (Original Song?) I think it has potential but there are alot of question marks to fill and they won't be evident till reviews start pouring in and the techie races start heating up. One thing though is that unless she goes supporting, Helena Bonham Carter is out of a nomination, too crowded I think. |
Author: | MikeQ. [ Sat Dec 01, 2007 2:10 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: "The Nominations Dominator" |
Raffiki wrote: One thing though is that unless she goes supporting, Helena Bonham Carter is out of a nomination, too crowded I think. I always thought she was going supporting. I didn't know that was a question mark. I see her getting a nomination, or having a better chance getting one than Cohen or Rickman, with what I've read so far. Peace, Mike |
Author: | Dr. Lecter [ Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:33 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: "The Nominations Dominator" |
Barring a big surprise, it looks to me that no movie this year will get more than 7-8 nominations. Once again. In my line-up, I see: Atonement: Best Picture Best Director Best Adapted Screenplay Best Supporting Actress Best Art Direction Best Cinematography Best Costumes Best Score (Best Actress) Into the Wild: Best Picture Best Director Best Supporting Actress Best Supporting Actor Best Adapted Screenplay Best Song There Will Be Blood: Best Picture Best Director Best Adapted Screenplay Best Actor Best Score Best Editing Best Cinematography (Best Supporting Actor) No Country for Old Men: Best Picture Best Director Best Adapted Screenplay Best Supporting Actor Best Sound Best Editing Best Cinematography (Best Supporting Actor) Juno: Best Picture Best Original Screenplay Best Actress So that leaves the potential maximum at 7-8 noms, IMO. For other (potential) nominees: Michael Clayton: Best Picture Best Actor Best Supporting Actor Best Supporting Actress Best Original Screenplay American Gangster: Best Picture Best Director Best Actor Best Editing Best Art Direction Sweeney Todd: Best Picture Best Director Best Actor Best Art Direction Best Make-Up Best Cinematography Best Editing Best Sound Basically....unless Atonement really breaks out and scores more acting noms than I expect it to....no 10+ noms for any film this year |
Author: | Dr. Lecter [ Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:29 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: "The Nominations Dominator" |
Well, Loyal, let's hope that Luhrman's Australia has got the goods because that film is a definite candidate for 10+ noms. Memoirs of a Geisha should have been one as well...if it just had been better. |
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