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yoshue wrote:

Ordinary People.

The movie packs a wallop, and the acting (Timothy Hutton, Donald Sutherland, Mary Tyler Moore, Judd Hirsch, and a very young Elizabeth McGovern in a small part) is absolutely flawless. The film itself isn't perfect, yet I've grown to love it.

Unfortunately it beat Raging Bull, so the world chooses to reject it. Fuck that.

Chris wrote:

I'm probably going to be lynched for this, but Shakespeare in Love. While it was not as good as Saving Private Ryan by any means, it was still a fine movie that would been my #2 pick of that year.

I will also add A Beautiful Mind and Jennifer Connelly.

yoshue wrote:

Chris wrote:

Dude, I agree wholeheartedly on Shakespeare in Love, a delightful film, and much better than Saving Private Ryan

I'll choose to ignore your second comment.

Shack wrote:

Glad I'm not the only one who thinks Saving Private Ryan is overrated. Way too much schmaltzy he was a hero! development of the characters, none of them had any internal factors past that to interest me at all, I hated the lack of character ambition Steven put in that movie. After the bombardment scene, the cliches and typical Spielberg sentimentality sets it and it's just decent. Plus the old man bookends is cringe-worthy.

I haven't seen SiL to judge though.

makeshift wrote:

Shack wrote:

If you haven't seen it, you will probably love The Thin Red Line.

MovieDude wrote:

Gladiator and Crash come to mind. Screw Chicago, that's easily the worst winner since 1989.

ChipMunky wrote:

STOP SAYING CRASH!!!

IT WAS GOD AWFUL!

DP07 wrote:

ChipMunky wrote:

STOP SAYING CRASH!!!

IT WAS GOD AWFUL!

GO TO HELL!

yoshue wrote:

YOU THINK YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE?!??!?? YOU HAVE NO IDEA!!!!!

Awards Czar Jon wrote:

yoshue wrote:

YOU THINK YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE?!??!?? YOU HAVE NO IDEA!!!!!

I'M ANGRY ALL THE TIME, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Author:	Johnny Dollar [ Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:59 pm ]
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Ordinary People. The movie packs a wallop, and the acting (Timothy Hutton, Donald Sutherland, Mary Tyler Moore, Judd Hirsch, and a very young Elizabeth McGovern in a small part) is absolutely flawless. The film itself isn't perfect, yet I've grown to love it. Unfortunately it beat Raging Bull, so the world chooses to reject it. Fuck that.

Author:	Squee [ Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:27 pm ]
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yoshue wrote: Ordinary People. The movie packs a wallop, and the acting (Timothy Hutton, Donald Sutherland, Mary Tyler Moore, Judd Hirsch, and a very young Elizabeth McGovern in a small part) is absolutely flawless. The film itself isn't perfect, yet I've grown to love it. Unfortunately it beat Raging Bull, so the world chooses to reject it. Fuck that. I thought it was better than Raging Bull myself. Not my favorite of Scorcese movies.

Author:	Dr. Lecter [ Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:19 am ]
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Crash I thought it was a very well-crafted and emotionally resonant picture and while the characters were obviously overdrawn, I liked that. They served as methaphors, IMO. It was not the best nominee n its year (that'd be Munich), but it definitely should be cut some slack.

Author:	Johnny Dollar [ Sat Mar 17, 2007 1:45 pm ]
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Argh! Three posts in, and you've already ruined the thread, Lecter.

Author:	Chris [ Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:35 pm ]
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I'm probably going to be lynched for this, but Shakespeare in Love. While it was not as good as Saving Private Ryan by any means, it was still a fine movie that would been my #2 pick of that year. I will also add A Beautiful Mind and Jennifer Connelly.

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Author:	Shack [ Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:27 am ]
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Dances With Wolves I'd add. Goodfellas is good, but nothing more.

Author:	Johnny Dollar [ Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:29 am ]
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Chris wrote: I'm probably going to be lynched for this, but Shakespeare in Love. While it was not as good as Saving Private Ryan by any means, it was still a fine movie that would been my #2 pick of that year. I will also add A Beautiful Mind and Jennifer Connelly. Dude, I agree wholeheartedly on Shakespeare in Love, a delightful film, and much better than Saving Private Ryan I'll choose to ignore your second comment.

Author:	Shack [ Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:32 am ]
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Glad I'm not the only one who thinks Saving Private Ryan is overrated. Way too much schmaltzy he was a hero! development of the characters, none of them had any internal factors past that to interest me at all, I hated the lack of character ambition Steven put in that movie. After the bombardment scene, the cliches and typical Spielberg sentimentality sets it and it's just decent. Plus the old man bookends is cringe-worthy. I haven't seen SiL to judge though.

Author:	MikeQ. [ Sun Mar 18, 2007 1:32 pm ]
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yoshue wrote: Chris wrote: I'm probably going to be lynched for this, but Shakespeare in Love. While it was not as good as Saving Private Ryan by any means, it was still a fine movie that would been my #2 pick of that year. I will also add A Beautiful Mind and Jennifer Connelly. Dude, I agree wholeheartedly on Shakespeare in Love, a delightful film, and much better than Saving Private Ryan I'll choose to ignore your second comment. I agree too! Shakespeare in Love was excellent. Peace, Mike.

Author:	Rod [ Sun Mar 18, 2007 1:56 pm ]
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Shakespeare in Love and Ordinary People were both excellent.

Author:	Libs [ Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:28 pm ]
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Crash. A Beautiful Mind. Forrest Gump. Chicago. Shakespeare in Love gets a lot of shit, so people forget that it was actually a wonderful movie. Acting winners who've been unfairly maligned: Marisa Tomei comes to mind

Author:	neo_wolf [ Sun Mar 18, 2007 5:45 pm ]
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SIL is a decent to mediocre movie, knowhere near the masterpiece SPR is IMO. Also, Raging Bull was robbed, OP was good but RB is on another level, its one of the best films IMO. Anyway, my pick would be Dances with wolves, IMO it deserved the oscars it got.

Author:	makeshift [ Sun Mar 18, 2007 10:25 pm ]
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Shack wrote: Glad I'm not the only one who thinks Saving Private Ryan is overrated. Way too much schmaltzy he was a hero! development of the characters, none of them had any internal factors past that to interest me at all, I hated the lack of character ambition Steven put in that movie. After the bombardment scene, the cliches and typical Spielberg sentimentality sets it and it's just decent. Plus the old man bookends is cringe-worthy. I haven't seen SiL to judge though. If you haven't seen it, you will probably love The Thin Red Line.

Author:	Gulli [ Sun Mar 18, 2007 10:47 pm ]
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makeshift wrote: Shack wrote: Glad I'm not the only one who thinks Saving Private Ryan is overrated. Way too much schmaltzy he was a hero! development of the characters, none of them had any internal factors past that to interest me at all, I hated the lack of character ambition Steven put in that movie. After the bombardment scene, the cliches and typical Spielberg sentimentality sets it and it's just decent. Plus the old man bookends is cringe-worthy. I haven't seen SiL to judge though. If you haven't seen it, you will probably love The Thin Red Line. A better idea would be for him to watch, "The Thin Red Line", "The Big Red One" and "Come And See" all in one go to gauge the best anti-war movie.

Author:	Christian [ Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:25 pm ]
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I agree that Ordinary People and Shakespeare in Love have been unfairly tagged as undeserving Best Picture winners. Had Scorsese won Director in 1980, then the backlash probably wouldn't be as pronounced. Marty on the other hand...

Author:	Johnny Dollar [ Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:02 pm ]
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I have "film and politics" class in 30 mins. What are we watching today? CRASH. That's what happens when you let a political science professor, not a film dude, teach the class. It's not entirely his fault; last year, he showed Do The Right Thing which apparently made the affluent white students here at the University uncomfortable and upset. As well it should. And Christian, Marty's so great shakes but, damnit, I can rattle off at least 20 winners worse than it. At least.

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Author:	thompsoncory [ Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:53 am ]
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Crash Chicago A Beautiful Mind Shakespeare In Love

Author:	Chippy [ Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:32 am ]
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STOP SAYING CRASH!!! IT WAS GOD AWFUL!

Author:	MovieDude [ Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:00 am ]
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Gladiator and Crash come to mind. Screw Chicago, that's easily the worst winner since 1989.

Author:	Chris [ Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:16 am ]
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MovieDude wrote: Gladiator and Crash come to mind. Screw Chicago, that's easily the worst winner since 1989. Driving Miss Daisy was a good winner.

Author:	DP07 [ Tue Mar 20, 2007 2:21 pm ]
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ChipMunky wrote: STOP SAYING CRASH!!! IT WAS GOD AWFUL! GO TO HELL!

Author:	Jonathan [ Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:26 pm ]
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DP07 wrote: ChipMunky wrote: STOP SAYING CRASH!!! IT WAS GOD AWFUL! GO TO HELL! I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT!

Author:	Johnny Dollar [ Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:36 pm ]
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YOU THINK YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE?!??!?? YOU HAVE NO IDEA!!!!!

Author:	Jonathan [ Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:38 pm ]
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yoshue wrote: YOU THINK YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE?!??!?? YOU HAVE NO IDEA!!!!! I'M ANGRY ALL THE TIME, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Author:	Christian [ Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:42 pm ]
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Awards Czar Jon wrote: yoshue wrote: YOU THINK YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE?!??!?? YOU HAVE NO IDEA!!!!! I'M ANGRY ALL THE TIME, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh shit!