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Post Re: WTF? Oscar expands number of Best Pic nominees to 10
Why 10? Shouldn't you start small and add one spot to Every category not just BP.

If there are 10 BPs are their 10 Directors or do we now get possibly 6-7 or more nominated films who's directors don't receive credit.

This can't be real.

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Elaborate Hack I hope.

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Let's combine forces into one giant thread, Jon! I made one in Cinemania because I figured it wouldn't get read here.


Eh, I think enough people use the "View New Posts" option to see it. And it just fits here.

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A mind-blowing change indeed. So we'll have 10 BP and 5 BD nominees. Yeah, Up is now a lock for a nomination and also a lock to miss the director nom. I'm thinking this move was made specifically for Pixar's persistent excellence yet no BP recognition. With 10 films, you bring pretty much everything in play, Comedy, Animated, Foreign, etc.

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So the chances now of getting a "lone director" slot are slim since most likely all 5 directors' pics are up for BP as well.

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A mind-blowing change indeed. So we'll have 10 BP and 5 BD nominees. Yeah, Up is now a lock for a nomination and also a lock to miss the director nom. I'm thinking this move was made specifically for Pixar's persistent excellence yet no BP recognition.


I'd it was more specifically to avoid another Dark Knight-like snub. This year's numbers were up from last year's (Despite many insisting the it could drop under 30 million, hehe), but were still incredibly low for the show, and would have definitely been higher had TDK been in the running. This might even allow for say, Funny People to be a major contender (Assuming it's good, of course). Shit, Avatar could even be a player depending on that film's quality.

It'll be interesting to see how precursors will react. Globes can probably stay the same since they already essentially have 10 nominees, but whether or not BAFTA decides to stay at five should be interesting. And BFCA might become even more significant.


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And BAFTA's longlist now becomes more interesting than ever considering their already formidable influence.

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In some ways NBR and AFI's lists would also be looked into since they do have a 10-list, right?

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The change is stupid. 5 was a great number. But I guess they realized they cannot change the voting process enough to stop nominating movies that don't deserve nominations, so they went the easy way. But it will be interesting to see if this will open the way for more WTF choices or finally give more mainstream but equally deserving movies a chance.

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A mind-blowing change indeed. So we'll have 10 BP and 5 BD nominees. Yeah, Up is now a lock for a nomination and also a lock to miss the director nom. I'm thinking this move was made specifically for Pixar's persistent excellence yet no BP recognition.


I'd it was more specifically to avoid another Dark Knight-like snub.

I'm on the Pixar bandwagon. I still believe WALL-E had much more votes than TDK.


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Ok. This is really really weird.

Why go from 5 to 10 and leave everything else the same?

I actually always thought 6 was a better number than 5 because 5 always seems to leave out 1 or 2 really worthy films. but 10? I'm really uncomfortable with this mostly because of comparing films with the new standard versus the old standard. We could have had so many awesome BP nominees in the past had we had 10 nominees. I think 7 would have been a great compromise even, but this REALLY dilutes the status of being a BP nominee.

I also think this is 100% because of money and ratings. Don't get me wrong, I will probably warm up to the change come January when we're all going crazy predicting, but there was absolutely no need for this. When you justify by saying great films like TDK or Pixar ones get consistently left out, I don't think they really care about the quality of those films - they are the big money-makers.

Anyway, now that we have this change... what films so far released this year have a shot?

Star Treck
UP

That's all I see for now. The only other one I can think of is maybe Sugar but I don't think that one has enough buzz.

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how retarded

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Just heard the news, had to post.

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And your nominees are

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The Hurt Locker
Invictus
The Lovely Bones
Nine
Precious
Public Enemies
Shutter Island
Up


I also however would not be surprised to see The Princess and the Frog and/or Star Trek show up.

BTW, I'm calling bullshit on this change. Yeah, we get it, you fucked up by not nominating WALL-E and TDK. But this change doesn't suddenly make those snubs okay. What it DOES do is diminish the worth of a nomination. WTG Academy


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I dunno how I feel about this. It alters the whole history and the "prestige" (*snicker snicker*) of being a Best Picture nominee.

While I'm happy that this means genre films and Pixar may finally get their notice, it is kind of bittersweet that it has to happen this way, in a manner which will speak less to the significance of the nomination.

I truly do think Pixar would gotten a nomination one of these years.


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To be perfectly fair. The BP winners this decade (minus ROTK and a few others) have done more damage to the Best Picture category than anything. Even if I liked Slumdog or M$B, it's hard to build a general consensus around those being good selections.


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Ridiculous change...I still can't believe this...

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and it's not even April 1st!


Assuming the next Batman films is as good or nearly as good as The Dark Knight...I'd say that'd make it a lock for a nom. And I think if Paramount REALLY pushes Star Trek is has a great great shot at a nom (considering it'll probably get 4-5 techs as well).


Also, unless it sucks, Shutter Island is most likely getting in as well now.

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One thing is for certain... nobody should be held accountable for any prediction they made before today. This definately changes the rules to a huge degree.


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I think it'll make the awards a lot more interesting. More smaller movies can be recognized too, more benefit all around. Sure, it might be a little weird to see "Nominated for Best Picture" on Star Trek's DVD case, but I think it's a nice change.


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But to me it undermines the weight of such a nom. I mean with ten nominees most wouldn't even start getting mad ast The Reader for getting in, hehe.


I also think that the box-office bump will suffer.

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Oh, I'm also interested in seeing how this affects the preferential counting system, as voters will need to rank 10 films, and one needs only 1/9 of No. 1s to secure a slot. In theory this should help the smaller or genre films with passionate supporters that would've felt short before.

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Oh, I'm also interested in seeing how this affects the preferential counting system, as voters will need to rank 10 films, and one needs only 1/9 of No. 1s to secure a slot. In theory this should help the smaller or genre films with passionate supporters that would've felt short before.


Unless they change that system as well.

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It's definitely going to take a much longer time and many more rounds to count. :)

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Maybe they'll start hiring another counter soon ;)

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It's clear why they're doing this -- now they can nominate the fan favorites and increase viewership without having to stop awarding the strong dramatic works of the year -- but that doesn't change how awesome it is. Up's already in, Avatar's basically in at this point.... Funny People?!?!?!

Sure, it makes the significance of getting a BP nom not quite as big.. but at the same time, being a BP nom means little in the long run -- winning the award is still where it's at. The only difference is that now there are WAY more kinds of films that can find themselves in the BP race

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A mind-blowing change indeed. So we'll have 10 BP and 5 BD nominees. Yeah, Up is now a lock for a nomination and also a lock to miss the director nom. I'm thinking this move was made specifically for Pixar's persistent excellence yet no BP recognition.


I'd it was more specifically to avoid another Dark Knight-like snub.

I'm on the Pixar bandwagon. I still believe WALL-E had much more votes than TDK.


Shame you're almost certainly wrong. TDK was the movie everyone was predicting, and the movie that was ultimately snubbed.

And let me remind people that this was the same system they had from the 1930s into the early '40s, and I don't hear anyone decreeing the Best Picture nominations for 42nd Street, Grand Illusion, The Adventures of Robin Hood and The Wizard of Oz as diminished just because it was in a category of 10 nominees instead of 5. Yeah, this is an obvious move for more audience-friendly nominees, but it's still 10 films out of the hundreds released every year. For now, I'm fine with it.


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