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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15573 Location: Everywhere
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 Re: this is weird without loyal
Maverikk wrote: Libs wrote: Maverikk wrote: Libs wrote: I agree, loyal is missed during awards season, at least by me. It doesn't feel the same without him. It's probably hard when your leader is gone, but I'm sure he'll be back. My leader? Exsqueeze me? Well, I would say loyal is one of the leaders here, and certainly the leader of this forum now. I see you as one of his followers. You follow his opinions, choose to see movies based on that, and in some cases, are influenced to like said movie or not by his opinions. He's become your James Berardinelli of this site, which probably is the logical reason for why you started dissing everything Clint Eastwood, didn't bother with Changeling (though, on paper, it was your type of Oscar bait female lead flick), yet was excited for and enjoyed Gran Torino, despite intially joining in on the snickers. Hell, for all I know, loyal's professed Sex in the City fanboyism might be the reason you did a complete 180 on that show, cause you used to loathe it until then. Sometimes people look to others and admire them and get enthused by their opinions on stuff, and you seem to be like that toward loyal heavily in the last few years. That's not an insult, just an observation, so that's why you probably miss him now so badly.  heh, I don't have that impression at all. Loyal said he would like people or not based on movies, so I can't possibly agree with him on this sort of thing (I mean unless it was more than a matter liking it and supporting some wrong message in a film). It's different without him.
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Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:13 pm |
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15573 Location: Everywhere
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 Re: this is weird without loyal
Mr. Joseph X wrote: Alright, alright. Calm down everyone. Let's not take focus off of Loyal. He's fragile, he can't take it. heh, I'm not sure he's reading this.
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Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:22 pm |
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Michael A
Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:48 am Posts: 6245
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Mr. Joseph X wrote: Every post not entirely focused on Loyal in this thread equals an entire night where Loyal cries himself to sleep.
Also, I just do whatever yoshue says. agreed I just do what Yoshue says (oops accidentally made Loyal cry himself to sleep) SORRY
_________________Mr. R wrote: Malcolm wrote: You seem to think threatening violence against people is perfectly okay because you feel offended by their words, so that's kind of telling in itself. Exactly. If they don't know how to behave, and feel OK offending others, they get their ass kicked, so they'll think next time before opening their rotten mouths.
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Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:30 pm |
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Korrgan
problem?
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 6:52 am Posts: 15515 Location: Bait Shop
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I didn't even realize he's been absent. Hmm. Whatever, it's actually been far less douchey here on KJ.
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Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:54 pm |
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Maverikk
Award Winning Bastard
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 12:03 am Posts: 15310 Location: Slumming at KJ
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Snrub wrote: Maverikk wrote: Snrub wrote: Maverikk wrote: Was I your leader when you followed me into every chick flick thread and took notes? That's the better question!  I'm confused. Was Libs your leader when you took notes on how her viewing habits aligned with Loyals? Or just when you wanted to watch some chick flicks. Speaking of leaders, I've always wondered why you ALWAYS have followed me and Libs around. Is she your leader or am I?  I'll answer your question when you answer mine.  I'll just take that as you admitting that I'm your leader. 
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Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:07 am |
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Libs
Sbil
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48678 Location: Arlington, VA
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take me to your leader
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Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:12 am |
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Korrgan
problem?
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I really don't think KJ has ever had a "leader." We've always been an ensemble cast.
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Christian
Team Kris
Joined: Thu Oct 28, 2004 5:02 pm Posts: 27584 Location: The Damage Control Table
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Korrgan wrote: I really don't think KJ has ever had a "leader." We've always been an ensemble cast. Like Crash.  I wanna be Harpy Thandie that got finger fucked by Matt Dillon.
_________________A hot man once wrote: Urgh, I have to throw out half my underwear because it's too tight.
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snack
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Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 9:18 pm Posts: 12159
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oh god! my precious thread! what happened here?
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Mon Jan 12, 2009 8:52 am |
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15573 Location: Everywhere
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Seriously though leadership has aspects involving listening to orders and then there are other things best left for individuals to decide for themselves. I would say leaders should inspire. Anyway...
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Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:21 am |
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15573 Location: Everywhere
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trixster wrote: If by weird you mean refreshingly quiet and unobnoxious, then.... yes. I would think of saying something...but then in that other thread he's the one who said 'sticks and stones'...which I don't agree with.
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Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:22 am |
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15573 Location: Everywhere
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Maverikk wrote: Snrub wrote: Maverikk wrote: Snrub wrote: Maverikk wrote: Was I your leader when you followed me into every chick flick thread and took notes? That's the better question!  I'm confused. Was Libs your leader when you took notes on how her viewing habits aligned with Loyals? Or just when you wanted to watch some chick flicks. Speaking of leaders, I've always wondered why you ALWAYS have followed me and Libs around. Is she your leader or am I?  I'll answer your question when you answer mine.  I'll just take that as you admitting that I'm your leader.  Give us your thoughts on what leadership is Mav. 
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Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:45 am |
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Maverikk
Award Winning Bastard
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 12:03 am Posts: 15310 Location: Slumming at KJ
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DP07 wrote: Give us your thoughts on what leadership is Mav.  Leadership can be defined by one's ability to lead. I don't see leaders here, I see mostly people who go with the flow or try to fit in with those they admire. I see people who ride the coat tails of others, without even realizing that they just do whatever others are doing, or did before them. I'm a leader.
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Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:49 pm |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:01 pm |
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Loyal
"no rank"
Joined: Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:43 pm Posts: 24502
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Jon wrote: trixster wrote: If by weird you mean refreshingly quiet and unobnoxious, then.... yes.  bastards. First time I log in in like 3 weeks and I get this. THIS!
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Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:28 pm |
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Johnny Dollar
The Lubitsch Touch
Joined: Thu Jul 21, 2005 5:48 pm Posts: 11019
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Maverikk wrote: DP07 wrote: Give us your thoughts on what leadership is Mav.  Leadership can be defined by one's ability to lead. I don't see leaders here, I see mostly people who go with the flow or try to fit in with those they admire. I see people who ride the coat tails of others, without even realizing that they just do whatever others are doing, or did before them. I'm a leader. lol I think we've misunderstood this guy. He's a first class satirist.
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trixster
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Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:31 pm Posts: 19697 Location: ville-marie
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loyalfromlondon wrote: Jon wrote: trixster wrote: If by weird you mean refreshingly quiet and unobnoxious, then.... yes.  bastards. First time I log in in like 3 weeks and I get this. THIS! Here I was thinking you wouldn't have a chance to read what I wrote. Damn.
_________________Magic Mike wrote: zwackerm wrote: If John Wick 2 even makes 30 million I will eat 1,000 shoes. Same. Algren wrote: I don't think. I predict. 
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Michael A
Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:48 am Posts: 6245
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Maverikk wrote: DP07 wrote: Give us your thoughts on what leadership is Mav.  Leadership can be defined by one's ability to lead. I don't see leaders here, I see mostly people who go with the flow or try to fit in with those they admire. I see people who ride the coat tails of others, without even realizing that they just do whatever others are doing, or did before them. I'm a leader. I'm sorry but I've never seen a group of people more intent on arguing with everything said than the one here. I have yet to notice 1 person here agree consistently with another. (this may be due to only having been here a few weeks, nonetheless.) By this definition I am certainly a leader.
_________________Mr. R wrote: Malcolm wrote: You seem to think threatening violence against people is perfectly okay because you feel offended by their words, so that's kind of telling in itself. Exactly. If they don't know how to behave, and feel OK offending others, they get their ass kicked, so they'll think next time before opening their rotten mouths.
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Libs
Sbil
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48678 Location: Arlington, VA
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loyalfromlondon wrote: Jon wrote: trixster wrote: If by weird you mean refreshingly quiet and unobnoxious, then.... yes.  bastards. First time I log in in like 3 weeks and I get this. THIS! I think they might be jealous they're not in Africa right now I know I am 
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Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:18 pm |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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He's back in the UK.
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:19 pm |
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15573 Location: Everywhere
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Maverikk wrote: DP07 wrote: Give us your thoughts on what leadership is Mav.  Leadership can be defined by one's ability to lead. I don't see leaders here, I see mostly people who go with the flow or try to fit in with those they admire. I see people who ride the coat tails of others, without even realizing that they just do whatever others are doing, or did before them. I'm a leader. Heh, I'd say that most people tend to make decisions based on social or peer pressure. Or stick with the familiar. Anyway, whatever differences I do think that there are leadership qualities that you have. As to the idea korrgan alluded to, I think the forum tends to operate largely through opinion leaders. It's like in the BO forum, a couple arguments, ideas or predictions can set the tone for expectations for a movie.
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Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:02 pm |
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
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Benjamin Milk wrote: Maverikk wrote: DP07 wrote: Give us your thoughts on what leadership is Mav.  Leadership can be defined by one's ability to lead. I don't see leaders here, I see mostly people who go with the flow or try to fit in with those they admire. I see people who ride the coat tails of others, without even realizing that they just do whatever others are doing, or did before them. I'm a leader. I'm sorry but I've never seen a group of people more intent on arguing with everything said than the one here. I have yet to notice 1 person here agree consistently with another. (this may be due to only having been here a few weeks, nonetheless.) By this definition I am certainly a leader. heh, I think a lot of posters often feel a need to support different institutions or systems they are in favor of (maybe the oscars and making them out as important  ). The question for me is whether that sort of argument becomes more important than the ideas. I know everyone might not love my long posts, but I think that sort of thing keeps the focus away from the other posters and towards the topic and make it feel like less of a fight. Ideas, theories, and philosophies are the real leaders anyway.
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Johnny Dollar
The Lubitsch Touch
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DP07 wrote: Benjamin Milk wrote: Maverikk wrote: DP07 wrote: Give us your thoughts on what leadership is Mav.  Leadership can be defined by one's ability to lead. I don't see leaders here, I see mostly people who go with the flow or try to fit in with those they admire. I see people who ride the coat tails of others, without even realizing that they just do whatever others are doing, or did before them. I'm a leader. I'm sorry but I've never seen a group of people more intent on arguing with everything said than the one here. I have yet to notice 1 person here agree consistently with another. (this may be due to only having been here a few weeks, nonetheless.) By this definition I am certainly a leader. heh, I think a lot of posters often feel a need to support different institutions or systems they are in favor of. The question for me is whether that sort of argument becomes more important than the ideas. I know everyone might not love my long posts, but I think that sort of thing keeps the focus away from the other posters and towards the topic and make it feel like less of a fight. Ideas, theories, and philosophies are the real leaders anyway.And maverikk.
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Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:12 pm |
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15573 Location: Everywhere
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yoshue wrote: DP07 wrote: Benjamin Milk wrote: Maverikk wrote: DP07 wrote: Give us your thoughts on what leadership is Mav.  Leadership can be defined by one's ability to lead. I don't see leaders here, I see mostly people who go with the flow or try to fit in with those they admire. I see people who ride the coat tails of others, without even realizing that they just do whatever others are doing, or did before them. I'm a leader. I'm sorry but I've never seen a group of people more intent on arguing with everything said than the one here. I have yet to notice 1 person here agree consistently with another. (this may be due to only having been here a few weeks, nonetheless.) By this definition I am certainly a leader. heh, I think a lot of posters often feel a need to support different institutions or systems they are in favor of. The question for me is whether that sort of argument becomes more important than the ideas. I know everyone might not love my long posts, but I think that sort of thing keeps the focus away from the other posters and towards the topic and make it feel like less of a fight. Ideas, theories, and philosophies are the real leaders anyway.And maverikk. Well, anyone who has their own ideas has something...Now anyone with an internet connection and some truly new idea can be a leader. Thoughts exist and are their own best representation because they can go without having anything else less accurate get in their way on the internet. So, the truth may then be free. hmmm, so anyway Mav, what do you think about inspiration vs following orders in terms of leadership?
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Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:14 pm |
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Maverikk
Award Winning Bastard
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 12:03 am Posts: 15310 Location: Slumming at KJ
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DP07 wrote: hmmm, so anyway Mav, what do you think about inspiration vs following orders in terms of leadership? Obviously, a good leader has good instincts, and displays ability to read situations and people accordingly. You got to know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em.
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