I wish they'd check your IP address.

We did, and we have an agreement.

Who says they haven't?

It's a nonissue, smarty pants.

Well, Krem, I think it's obvious to see that his concerns were not legit, as this behavior from him is the same old same old. Who exactly did he think would be a part of anything about the Oscars? Him? Anybody in his circle of friends that hang out elsewhere at this forum? Now seriously, why would this even be a concern for a rational thinking person?

So you're so high and almighty now that people like TonyMontana aren't even allowed to go in Oscar discussions anymore?

And, for the record Mav, I edited my post to make sure you understand that I am not against you as commentator. On the contrary, you do a great job with your charts and I see you have a tremendous amount of dedication towards movies. However, I really, really regret your tone towards members and it's a shame you put yourself in such situations.

First of all, I do not wish to go into the "same old same old" part. Past fights should stay in the past.

Second, like I said before, it is not right to start hurling insults at people just because they have a concern, even if you don't think it's legitimate. Address it in a polite manner, and it will go away.

Past fights should stay in the past? If you believe that, then why does Tony's "concerns" not fall under that logic.

Because Tony is not trying to get you banned.

Tony's never been in an Oscar discussion. That's my point. Why would he even think that he'd be a part of any roundtable? andaroo, Dr. Lecter, MovieDude, Libs, loyal, dolce, Raffiki, xiayun, Atoddr, MikeQ., Rod, and the list goes on. Those are the Oscar contributers here, and this forum backs that up. No offense, Shack, but I'd save andaroo the headaches of arguing with you, and he'd be the first person that I'd ask to take part.

haha...do you know how many posts of his that I could pull up that doesn't echo that statement?

Never? It seems a simple search turns up a plethora of posts by Tony in this very forum. Huh.

Have they run your IP yet?

Can you provide the links to these discussions so I can read them? Thanks.

That's of no consequence. In THIS thread the only thing he did was voice his concern.



Anyway, I'd like everyone to drop this matter. This thread is for welcoming Maverikk onboard and not for even more flames.

Like I said, we have checked lennier's IP, and we have an agreement with him in place.

WHY do you care so much about my IP? Have you not read the above comments about this? Hello??!

Since you spend so much time calculating immature attacks on people, you can surely spend enough time to do your own search. Since I'm nice, I'll direct you to discussions he has added to:

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I didn't see this before my last post. I'll disappear.

Just a couple things I'd like to clear up...

- I have indeed posted in this forum (thanks lennier!). I do not do it as much as I'd like, and am very much a fair-weather Oscar discusser, as it depends on the movies as to how much I like to discuss them. But, this doesn't have much to do with the topic, as I never wanted to be on the round-table. I thought that it could involve discussion with members too AND that I thought the panel should be chosen by somebody who is reasonably unbiased against members.

- I do not appreciate being personally insulted over and over again... from my knowledge being called into question to being called a "waste of space", especially when I have done nothing to deserve the same. I always make a conscious effort to not insult Maverikk on a personal level and stick to my point. If I ever have personally insulted him, I genuinely apologize... that's not my style and nobody deserves that. As a matter of fact, I remember telling him several times that personal insults are not my style and questioned why he feels the need to do the same to me.

- However, with all that being said... my initial points stand. I feel this thread is further proof of my initial statement. I made a reasonable point and in turn was insulted repeatedly. I am confused, saddened, and immensely disappointed that the powers of KJ would put him in a position to oversee a project this big when they are aware of this conduct.

- Last point... I wish someone would mention that I am not lennier... the implication above to those who don't know and are reading between the lines is left to suggest that it is me, when it is not. At the same time, I appreciate his/her support.

Thanks for clearing up the lie about me not getting along with the majority of the members here that you told while you were consciously not insulting me.



Posting a comment and being able to carry on a conversation in depth are not the same things. You decided to just start criticizing me, as you always do, and then claim that you're innocent, and that's insulting.

Why don't you get something together with the video game fans here at the board? That's your field of expertise, isn't it? If you did, myself being a fair weather fan of video games, wouldn't even consider grandstanding as if it actually mattered to me. And who said anything about me picking anybody without consulting loyal? Nobody, so your comments were unwarranted, and it looks as if you were just looking for something to bitch about concerning me that wasn't even an issue.



I don't appreciate being insulted unprovoked by you over and over, yet it never stops you from slinging the mud and then acting like you're innocent. You do that shit all the time. You've even admitted that you love sticking your nose in and stirring shit up.



Well, it would be in a controlled environment, which means there wouldn't be any troublemaking people who start shit all the time and then act all innocent involved, and it's been my experience that it's those members who create the problems. Thanks for the example of what kinds of members shouldn't be involved. No troublemakers. Check.



I don't think you're lennier, and never suggested that you were, so you're being a bit paranoid there. I just thought it was easy to see that he wasn't a new member. I think Krem should be obligated to say who he is, too, but I didn't think he was you.

Mav... you routinely criticize mods, or anybody in power at KJ for their conduct as blatantly ask that they be removed from power, or question their appointment. When they snap back at you and act "unprofessional" you complain even harder. (If you would like examples, I can provide them).

How is what I am pointing out here any different than what you do? You were put in a position of power and to represent the site, just days after being warned about your conduct and going on a tirade insulting other members by calling them a slew of insults. By your own words people who are doing what you do (throwing insults, acting unprofessional), should not be placed in any position of power to represent this site.

You are blatantly saying you will discriminate against me, after repeatedly insulting me. You would not tolerate the same from anybody, yet I have stayed above it and have never referred to you as anything remotely near a "waste of space"... I refuse to go there with you. As a matter of fact, I stand by my compliments... your Oscar knowledge impresses me, and I think you are an excellent choice for articles and charts. I am only concerned about your duties that involve interactions with other members - your responses only reinforced my concerns.

How difficult would it have been to remain professional to my concern, and put me at ease that it will be run professionally and you will refrain from personal attacks and even open up discussions to members you have had disagreements with? That seems to me that it would have been the path I would have taken.

Why does it matter so much whether the majority of people here agree with the person or not? The articles are made for the main site, no? If they are good, then that is what matters. It's not like he'll be setting up arguments. Also, I don't think too many people will disagree. It's not like he'll suggest Fantastic Four for Best Picture and defend this choice, right? So where exactly is the problem?

As I stated above, I feel Maverikk will be tremendous for articles and charts and stuff like that. I only question if there are duties that involve interaction with other members (picking members, discussion with members, etc...). If there is none of that, then I have no problems at all. I feel that his admission that he will discriminate against some would call into question his appointment for that duty, as well as his repeated insults to me and others. I am confused, Dr. Lecter, as to how you could condone activity like that?

He is writing articles for the main site. What does that have to do with the boards?

Well no doubt he'll create discussion and feedback threads to go with his articles, and one of the points is roundtable discussion. I'm not against this Czar thing at all, but I do see where TonyMontana is coming from. And this thread furthers his point. Mav always has a strong amount of bias and if someone disagrees with him he will always go into a long war about how much he is right and how the other person is wrong. Eg. If we come into his thread and say WTL will not win Best Picture, he'll have a shitfit and tell us to leave.

Tony, you routinely criticize the mods and administrators more than I do now. You criticized them in this very thread. You criticize them for petty things like locking a thread. (I can provide links to show some examples) Remember what Krem said about "past fights"? Besides, I was extremely welcoming to loyal, Krem, and Scott. I think you talk in circles. On one hand, you're accusing me and the powers here of being best of buddies, and on the other hand, you act as if we're bitter enemies.



I welcomed loyal and supported him from day one, and he and I went at it hot and heavy, so I don't know where you're getting that nonsense from. loyal's good for the site. The site and the forum are not the same thing. I'm not in charge of you, Tony. Get a grip on this, as you're definitely bitching about things that you obviously have no knowledge about, so why are you bitching. Was I made a mod or administrator here?



Stayed above it? Lying about how I don't get along with the majority of members here is above it? I'm glad you consider lying as taking the high road... (that was an insult, Tony, which you framed your concerns around.)

As far as the interaction, I've tried to make that clear to you, I get along with the guys and girls in this forum, and go out of my way to provide them with any and all information that I come across. You're acting like I'd be involved with mortal enemies or something. Where are you getting that from? Shack is the only one in this forum that causes me to scream, and I'm not even the loudest screamer where he's concerned.

This is what I fail to see the point in. Who exactly do I not get along with that would even agree to be involved in a roundtable discussion. The members with the most knowledge of this stuff are my best friends here, and this forum never has arguments or bad blood. That's a fact! loyal and I have long since made our peace and moved past that silly stuff and realize we enjoy getting along much better.



Tony, if you wouldn't have started with the comments of me not getting along with the majority, and you would have taken out the tone that was coming through loud and clear from you, I wouldn't have said a mean word to you. I've already explained to you that the members in this forum who contribute heavily and are very knowledgeable get along just fine with me. I don't think you would be able to point out any bad blood here at all between me and the Oscar fans here. How much more do you need to know than that?

If this was a project for the Water Cooler, I'd see your concerns and totally understand them, but this forum doesn't have the same members that hang out here, and guess what, there isn't any fighting.

Does that ease your concerns a little?