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 Rogue One: A Star Wars Story 

Is the Force strong with this film?
A 23%  23%  [ 6 ]
B 54%  54%  [ 14 ]
C 19%  19%  [ 5 ]
D 4%  4%  [ 1 ]
F 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
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 Rogue One: A Star Wars Story 
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I think this needed Jar Jar Binks, imo.


Interesting take on the film!

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Vader's scene leaked to YouTube. It's cool, but I was expecting "Achilles takes the beach" level of badassery.


That leaked cam is missing all of the build up to the moment.


This has leaked too.

It's a cool scene no doubt but has nothing on Batfleck or Achilles.


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The reasons it did need one is because the general audience doesn't follow everything star wars.

Second, it's star wars. You have seven films with a crawl and then this anomaly without one even though it takes place days before episode 4.

Third, the thing about the episodes only being skywalker centric yet we got Vader, leia, the droids, a kenobi reference and the Force all over the place.

It's what makes it star wars and unique to the franchise and they said funk that. Also, the music was trash and that didn't help things here.

Finally, we are gonna get a handle solo film that is before rogue and after sith. I think a freaking crawl helps to set things up.

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The reasons it did need one is because the general audience doesn't follow everything star wars.


STAR WARS

ROGUE ONE

Remember Star Wars? This takes place before that, but after
Episode III. Do you understand? We're really just putting this
here as a safety net for you, because this movie isn't structured
in a way that it needs a crawl, but we know you're terrified of
any kind of change.

Something like that, nghtvsn?

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Second, it's star wars. You have seven films with a crawl and then this anomaly without one even though it takes place days before episode 4.


It's also the first spin-off. Already an anomaly.

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Third, the thing about the episodes only being skywalker centric yet we got Vader, leia, the droids, a kenobi reference and the Force all over the place.


Vader and Leia's combined screentime is all of two minutes. Threepio gets one line.

Yep, it's basically the same.

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I think a freaking crawl helps to set things up.


Nah. You just can't handle change.


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I don't like change when is totally unnecessary. I'd bet a majority of the audience who ends up watching this will be wondering whets the crawl. Is this star wars? What is this? Plus, it was just cheesy as hell that way they threw in the title.

And your crawl was not very good.

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The crawl is always great. It will be missed.


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Haven't seen this yet, but I'm partial to having the crawl be reserved only for the "official episodes."

If they tried to insert one into every random spin-off they churn out talk about having a diluting effect.


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It didn't need a crawl.

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nghtvsn wrote:
I don't like change when is totally unnecessary.


Fandom summed up in a single concise sentence.


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The Dark Shape wrote:
nghtvsn wrote:
I don't like change when is totally unnecessary.


Fandom summed up in a single concise sentence.

There's nothing wrong with fandom.

Maybe to avoid diluting the crawl they should just not pump out Star Wars films every year.


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Han Solo having a crawl would be dumb. Everyone knows Han Solo.

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zwackerm wrote:
The Dark Shape wrote:
nghtvsn wrote:
I don't like change when is totally unnecessary.


Fandom summed up in a single concise sentence.

There's nothing wrong with fandom.

Maybe to avoid diluting the crawl they should just not pump out Star Wars films every year.


I can't get behind that argument just because SW is 40 years old and they are literally trying this for the first time.

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The Ep. IV crawl pretty much covers Rogue One - crawl junkies can watch that one on their phones just before the movie starts...



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Saw it again this morning. Loved it even more. There were tiny nitpicky things that I picked up this time but it's such a satisfying film. And K2 and Chirrut will go down as some of the best all time characters in the Star Wars universe.

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It's a solid B for me which is about what I gave TFA, but in all honesty the last 30 minutes of this movie is far superior than anything going on in that movie, so overall I'd say I liked it more. However, when it comes characters I definitely think TFA was better, because outside of K2 and Donnie Yen I won't remember a single person from this. Felicity Jones was just bland to me and seemed to be going through the motions most of the time and while I did find Diego Luna a bit better even he ends up becoming kind of a cliché. Unfortunately, Forest Whitaker and Mads Mikkelsen fare the worse and are probably the weakest parts of the movie, although Ben Mendelsohn was also a pretty forgettable villain. It ends so perfectly though with the Vader scene which was dope and the final shot of Leia. It was a great lead in for ANH.


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The first half of the film was too slow, and the entire cast was average or worse, even Felicity Jones, surprisingly, was very... ordinary. The second half of the film, however, was great - the last third in particular, easily had some of the best moments in the Star Wars franchise. B-.

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I liked it. Though it made me realize I undervalued TFA's entertainment value. Because while it was a lazy retread of A New Hope, it was usually involving and rarely boring. The first two thirds were dull, intercut with cool stuff. The last third was awesome, amazing action and it ties into the beginning of A New Hope perfectly. The only thing I didn't like about the end was the fact that Jon and the guy hugging instead of kissing. Like it was such passionate hugging as to be comical. That makes two straight oddly sexless Star Wars movies in a row. Diego Luna and Ruiz Ahmed sucked. Felicity Jones was serviceable, but Daisy Ridley was much better. Chirrut and Baez were cute ideas that were never elaborated on too much. And K2-SO needed more screen time. Darth Vader was cool.

So overall the most uneven Star Wars film with high highs and low lows. It was not a retread, but I definitely think there are more interesting stories they could have told than this.

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I can tell Disney's first truly great Star Wars film is around the corner, considering how many great things were interspersed among their first two efforts. Hopefully Episode 8 knocks it out of the park.


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Darth Vader was cool.


Understatement of the year.

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Last 20min or so is great. Everything before that ranges from mediocre to solid.

This I'd agree with.

Even the final 20 minutes has its issues though - making the Star Destroyers and walkers that easily destroyable bothered me a little.

And did we all forget about the magical truth-inducing tentacle monster???


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I was oddly very attracted to Diego Luna in this, something I've never thought when I've seen him before. Huh.

The first 2/3s really are not that great. Characters kinda suck.


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I'd rank it above TFA, below I-VI.


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ANH
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Rogue One
Jedi
TFA
Sith
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1. ESB
2. ROTJ
3. ANH
4. RO
5. TFA
6. ROTS
7. AOTC
8. TPM


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1. A New Hope
2. The Force Awakens
3. Empire Strikes Back
4. Revenge of the Sith
5. Return of the Jedi
6. Rogue One
7. Attack of the Clones
8. The Phantom Menace

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