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trixster
loyalfromlondon
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 Black Swan
Black Swan Quote: Black Swan is a 2010 American psychological thriller film directed by Darren Aronofsky. The film stars Natalie Portman and Mila Kunis as ballet dancers in a New York City production of Swan Lake. The production requires a ballerina to play both the innocent White Swan and the sensual Black Swan. Nina (Portman) fits for the White Swan and Lily (Kunis) fits for the Black Swan. When the two compete for the parts, Nina finds a dark side of herself.
Aronofsky conceived the premise by connecting his viewings of Swan Lake with an unrealized screenplay about understudies and the notion of being haunted by a double, similar to the folklore surrounding doppelgängers. The director also considered Black Swan a companion piece to his previous film The Wrestler, with both films' worlds involving demanding performances for different kinds of art. He and Portman first discussed the project in 2000, and after a brief attachment to Universal Pictures, Black Swan was produced in New York City in 2009 under Fox Searchlight Pictures. Portman and Kunis trained in ballet for months. Notable figures from the ballet world helped with film production to shape the ballet presentation. The film premiered as the opening film for the 67th Venice International Film Festival on September 1, 2010. The film will have a limited release on December 3, 2010.
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Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:11 pm |
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Grill
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Joined: Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:01 am Posts: 8684
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Magnus wrote: The Black Masterpiece. That's all I'm gonna say. I know. I have so many things to say about this movie...but everything would be a big spoiler. So I will only say, this decade's American Beauty.
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Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:40 pm |
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makeshift
Teenage Dream
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Grill wrote:
So I will only say, this decade's American Beauty. not a compliment.
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Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:27 am |
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Grill
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makeshift wrote: Grill wrote:
So I will only say, this decade's American Beauty. not a compliment. Well I guess, you don't think so. But I remember American Beauty always being held in very universal high esteem, unless that has changed over the years.
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torrino
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i agree w/ denby on this one
it's not BAD, it's never boring, but it's thoroughly ridiculous
definitely one of the most intellectually insulting movies since the blind side
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Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:16 am |
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Grill
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Don't want to mention them yet to spoil the movie but I can think of 5 related Movies that would spoil this movie and probably at least 20 Movies that have similarities.
Wonder how many the screenwriter had when he wrote this original script.
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Viper Rodgers
Leader of the Pack
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From my Oscar Insight Blog: Quote: Beautiful, twisted, erotic, brilliant, enrapturing and bone-chilling. All are words that only begin to describe the subtle complexity and understated genius in director Darren Aronofsky’s “Black Swan.” After crafting a surprisingly realistic tale of acceptance and redemption in 2008’s “The Wrestler,” the indie filmmaker makes a transition back into an altered reality within one character’s tormented being.
Part “Devil’s Advocate,” part “The Shining,” the movie revolves around the exposition of two themes – the loss of innocence and the pursuit for perfection – and the evolving psychosis of Portman’s Nina. With the same grainy-style cinematography as “The Wrestler,” mixed with sequences of the demanding, physical aspects of being a ballerina, the film has the feel of a mesmerizing nightmare.
Aronofsky truly succeeds in the way he paces the story with its ever-growing sense of tension. When the film begins, viewers are introduced to Nina’s unusually sheltered life with her obsessive mother (played with a shockingly fierce intensity from Barbara Hershey) and how she handles herself in the ballet social-scene. This soon evolves into a study of Nina’s innocence and how she must mentally succumb to her inner demons in order to meet the demands of her role. With the introduction of the mysterious new dancer Lily (Mila Kunis, “Date Night”), Nina’s insecurities also begin to get the best of her. By the film’s final moments when Tchaikovsky’s tragic “Swan Lake” is at its climax, goose bumps and exaggerated heart rates are assured.
As much as this is Aronofky’s magnum opus, it is Portman who delivers a performance that rivals the greatness of Daniel Day Lewis’s Daniel Plainview in “There Will Be Blood.” Almost as impressive as her display of dexterity and gracefulness in her dancing is Portman’s ability to dive into a state of paranoid anxiety. While the screenplay employs numerous twists to help bring about her state of mental anguish, her change from a timid young girl to psychotic, crazy bitch is nothing short of Oscar worthy. And while Cassel embodies the characteristics of creeper teacher and Mila Kunis (“Date Night”) perfectly offsets Nina with a humorous lightness, it is Portman’s show all the way.
Filled with intense moments of lust, anxiety, desire, and passion, “Black Swan” is as much a Shakespearean tragedy as it is a sophisticated horror film. Like Tchaikovsky’s hauntingly beautiful composition, “Black Swan” is an unforgettable masterpiece that will stay with you long after the initial impression has faded. Judgment: A Grandeur Cut (A) http://www.unrinsight.com/?p=7968
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Grill
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Viper Rodgers wrote: From my Oscar Insight Blog: Quote: Beautiful, twisted, erotic, brilliant, enrapturing and bone-chilling. All are words that only begin to describe the subtle complexity and understated genius in director Darren Aronofsky’s “Black Swan.” After crafting a surprisingly realistic tale of acceptance and redemption in 2008’s “The Wrestler,” the indie filmmaker makes a transition back into an altered reality within one character’s tormented being.
Part “Devil’s Advocate,” part “The Shining,” the movie revolves around the exposition of two themes – the loss of innocence and the pursuit for perfection – and the evolving psychosis of Portman’s Nina. With the same grainy-style cinematography as “The Wrestler,” mixed with sequences of the demanding, physical aspects of being a ballerina, the film has the feel of a mesmerizing nightmare.
Aronofsky truly succeeds in the way he paces the story with its ever-growing sense of tension. When the film begins, viewers are introduced to Nina’s unusually sheltered life with her obsessive mother (played with a shockingly fierce intensity from Barbara Hershey) and how she handles herself in the ballet social-scene. This soon evolves into a study of Nina’s innocence and how she must mentally succumb to her inner demons in order to meet the demands of her role. With the introduction of the mysterious new dancer Lily (Mila Kunis, “Date Night”), Nina’s insecurities also begin to get the best of her. By the film’s final moments when Tchaikovsky’s tragic “Swan Lake” is at its climax, goose bumps and exaggerated heart rates are assured.
As much as this is Aronofky’s magnum opus, it is Portman who delivers a performance that rivals the greatness of Daniel Day Lewis’s Daniel Plainview in “There Will Be Blood.” Almost as impressive as her display of dexterity and gracefulness in her dancing is Portman’s ability to dive into a state of paranoid anxiety. While the screenplay employs numerous twists to help bring about her state of mental anguish, her change from a timid young girl to psychotic, crazy bitch is nothing short of Oscar worthy. And while Cassel embodies the characteristics of creeper teacher and Mila Kunis (“Date Night”) perfectly offsets Nina with a humorous lightness, it is Portman’s show all the way.
Filled with intense moments of lust, anxiety, desire, and passion, “Black Swan” is as much a Shakespearean tragedy as it is a sophisticated horror film. Like Tchaikovsky’s hauntingly beautiful composition, “Black Swan” is an unforgettable masterpiece that will stay with you long after the initial impression has faded. Judgment: A Grandeur Cut (A) http://www.unrinsight.com/?p=7968An almost perfect review that includes a lot of the connected items that I thought of when thinking about the movie afterwards. Especially including all the different emotions that this movies gives to the viewer. The only thing that I question is whether this is a good description of where she ends up, as I disagree with that > her change from a timid young girl to psychotic, crazy bitch.
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Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:41 am |
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Grill
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Repeating him doesn't make you right...especially since he didn't provide any support or details. Just hot air. And PS. You both are wrong.
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Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:18 am |
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Michael A
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Grill wrote: Repeating him doesn't make you right...especially since he didn't provide any support or details. Just hot air. And PS. You both are wrong. Umm, I'm pretty sure based on the image he posted under his quote, he was mocking torinno's post....
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Tue Dec 07, 2010 12:44 am |
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Grill
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OK. You are right. As I didn't read past the quoted box.
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lovemerox
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torrino wrote: i agree w/ denby on this one
it's not BAD, it's never boring, but it's thoroughly ridiculous
definitely one of the most intellectually insulting movies since the blind side lol. Ironic
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Bradley Witherberry
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Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:13 pm Posts: 15197 Location: Planet Xatar
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Major Disappointment reporting for duty, troops!
For those thinking that Aronofsky was ditching the crazy after his soft hearted The Wrestler, well don't you worry no more!
Black Swan is a full-on trip inside the delusion.
It reminded me his debut feature Pi, except done with female leads and a bigger budget.
Problem is, the story was too refracted. It circles back on itself relentlessly in pursuit of the missing perfection of the screenplay with a drama that never materializes. What a shame, because Natalie Portman is a consummate actress here (well, she always has been), but her talent is mostly wasted here - - curtains tattering in a turgid wind.
Tragically, Black Swan didn't capture me like I yearned she would.
3 out of 5.
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junio
Indiana Jones IV
Joined: Sat May 07, 2005 2:23 pm Posts: 1778 Location: Guaynabo, Puerto Rico
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The Red Shoes + The Piano Teacher + Repulsion + a lil' Cronenberg style = Black Swan
Aronofsky's best film to date. Likewise Natalie Portman's performance. What more could you want?
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Argos
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Bradley Witherberry wrote: It reminded me his debut feature Pi, except done with female leads and a bigger budget. Excellent.
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Bradley Witherberry
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Warning to the squeamish: There's a short scene of graphic gore in Black Swan that puts 127 Hours to shame. Beware the finger!
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Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:14 am |
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Grill
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Bradley Witherberry wrote: Warning to the squeamish: There's a short scene of graphic gore in Black Swan that puts 127 Hours to shame. Beware the finger! There were a couple of scenes that made me, start to cover me eyes. And this movie had so much. Funny, Sad, Creepy, Touching, Horrifying, Surprising, Etc
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Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:58 am |
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Grill
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junio wrote: The Red Shoes + The Piano Teacher + Repulsion + a lil' Cronenberg style = Black Swan
Aronofsky's best film to date. Likewise Natalie Portman's performance. What more could you want? Wondering if anyone else thought her last line really made the movie...perfect. *** And I think is was Center Stage mixed with A Turning Point mixed with A Fatal Attraction mixed with All That Jazz mixed with Carrie mixed with Psycho mixed with Amadeus mixed with A Beautiful Mind mixed with Fight Club mixed with All About Eve mixed with Citizen Kane mixed with Your Favorite Seduce the Girlfriend Lesbian Co-ed Movie ... Just For Starters ....
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Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:25 am |
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makeshift
Teenage Dream
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:20 am Posts: 9247
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Goldie has sort of already started ruining this movie for me, which really sucks cause I pretty much loved it.
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Sat Dec 11, 2010 2:26 pm |
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Groaning
Us v Them
Joined: Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:17 pm Posts: 2759 Location: Austria
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makeshift wrote: I pretty much loved it.  i'm so excited for it
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Sat Dec 11, 2010 2:36 pm |
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Argos
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You know that it's not a Pixar film, right?
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Sat Dec 11, 2010 2:42 pm |
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Groaning
Us v Them
Joined: Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:17 pm Posts: 2759 Location: Austria
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Argos wrote: You know that it's not a Pixar film, right? if cars 2 is really as bad as it looks, pixar is dead to me. (until they release a good movie again) (sorry for talking about cars 2 here!!)
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publicenemy#1
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My favorite movie of the year, hands down.
I'm a fan of Natalie Portman but even I can admit that some of her performances have rough spots.... but not here. She is absolutely marvelous.
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Sat Dec 11, 2010 2:57 pm |
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Argos
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Dem selten fehlenden Gesetz folgend, dass Teil 2 schlecht wird als Teil 1, ist es nicht unwahrscheinlich, dass 'Cars 2' grandioser Müll wird, mein lieber Groaning.
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Grill
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As I am afraid that as Bradley and probably MakeShift missed the point of the Movie.... If anyone is interested, see spoiler below. Well there was a very fatal attraction. And not the expected kind, with the lovely Mila.
As her fatal attraction was towards Perfection. As she even mentioned with her dying words, it was perfect.
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