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Heinrich Himmler
Cream of the Crop
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 5:17 pm Posts: 2716 Location: Berlin, Germania
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this is as shallow as it gets, even by the standards of the current disney regime. uncle walt wouldnt be proud.
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bABA
Commander and Chef
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 12:56 am Posts: 30505 Location: Tonight ... YOU!
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Well this had always been the story of Beauty and the Beast so I can't really blame the 90s version for portraying the same thing.
Having said that, I've never been a fan of BatB so I never quite enjoyed this flick.
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Tue Aug 15, 2006 10:14 am |
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Anita Hussein Briem
Yes we can call dibs on the mountain guide
Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2005 5:47 pm Posts: 3290 Location: Houston
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Erendis wrote: And my A is up there, although it should EASILY be an A+, easily. I was so rooting for the Oscar. It's true, this movie is the sole reason for an Animated Best Picture Oscar, and honestly, they should have given it some honorary Oscar.
I think it's the best that Disney has ever made. I never did like Aladdin or even Lion King.
What about Cinderella, Pinocchio, Fantasia, Dumbo, Bambi, Lady and the Tramp, The Aristocats, Snow White, The Three Caballeros, etc? I like a bunch of those better than Beast.
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Tue Aug 15, 2006 12:49 pm |
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Erendis
Indiana Jones IV
Joined: Thu Oct 28, 2004 9:40 am Posts: 1527 Location: Emyn Arnen
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Of all the Disney stuff, the only other movie that came close was Little Mermaid. That's just my opinion; and maybe it has to do with how you are when you see these movies. I was in college during Mermaid and Beast.
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Tue Aug 15, 2006 3:29 pm |
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neo_wolf
Extraordinary
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 10:19 pm Posts: 10909
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Its one of the best animated films ever, Its my third favorite disney film.
A+
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Tue Aug 15, 2006 10:39 pm |
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Jeff
Christian's #1 Fan
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 8:25 pm Posts: 28110 Location: Awaiting my fate
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I have found memories of when I saw it, and at the time I was also around 7 years old. Add to that the fact that the song is probably my favorite all-time movie song and I think there is more of an emotional connection to the movie then most which is why I rank it so high.
However, that being said, it is still a masterpiece of animation and one of Disney's best.
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Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:47 pm |
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Jonathan
Begging Naked
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:07 pm Posts: 14737 Location: The Present (Duh)
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bABA wrote: Well this had always been the story of Beauty and the Beast so I can't really blame the 90s version for portraying the same thing. Yeah, I find this odd. If anything it improves on the original story by having the curse play a major part in the overall story instead of showing up at the very end out of nowhere like it does in the original story. Anyway, easily my favorite Disney film and probably my second favorite overall after Spirited Away. Probably some of the most beautiful animation in any animated film period. It's really no wonder that it was nominated for Best Picture. ****
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Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:58 pm |
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Bradley Witherberry
Extraordinary
Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:13 pm Posts: 15197 Location: Planet Xatar
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Re: Beauty and the Beast (1991)
Beauty and the Beast is one of my favourite Disney films. I saw it in it's original release, and then even more impressively in it's re-release in it's 2001 IMAX S.E. version. The hand-painted glory is astounding even across the resolution of the giant screen, and the sound is spectacular. As to being the best animated film of all time - - well, that's a tall order that, I don't think Beauty and the Beast can fulfil - - I mean seriously, Miyazaki is at the very peak of animation art, and the early classic Disney films are hand-painted masterpieces, let alone many of the 80's/90's Disney renaissance including Little Memaid, Pocohontas, Lion King, Mulan, Tarzan, Fantasia 2000, and even Aladdin. Personally, I would also rate Ratatouille above Beauty and the Beast - - but then I'm not a CGI snob - - Toy Story & Bug's Life also deserve to be recognized in the elite realm of the finest animation ever as well. Other non Miyazaki/Disney/Pixar animated films that are also as good or better than Beauty and the Beast are Spirit: Stallion of the Cimmaron, Triplettes of Belleville, Paprika, & Chicken Run.But, there is one essential difference between Beauty and the Beast and the rest of the animated movies that may best it - - it is a full-on movie musical, and a great one - - one of the few musicals of it's generation, until they started making them again in the 2000's! (There is one other oddball case: South Park: Bigger, Longer, Uncut - - another very good musical, an extremely funny movie, but I can barely refer to it as animated when speaking of these other fine films. Come to think of it, Nightmare Before Christmas pretty much fits into this strange category too.) I don't include motion capture films, which are barely animation imho - - not that there are any worth speaking of in the company of the hallowed brethern of the above films, and I don't include non-feature animated films. There are a thousand short animated films from around the world that are absolutely brilliant examples of the animator's art - - from the Tex Avery and Chuck Jones to Zbigniew Rybczinski's Tango...
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Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:35 am |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 20345 Location: Where they shot Knock at the Cabin
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Re: Beauty and the Beast
Though its plot holes are glaring, this is Disney's second best film after Aladdin. Music, characters, animation, plotline, all magnificent.
A+
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Sat Apr 18, 2015 10:51 pm |
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publicenemy#1
Extraordinary
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:25 am Posts: 18877 Location: San Diego
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Re: Beauty and the Beast
What are the plot holes?
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Sun Apr 19, 2015 10:54 am |
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thompsoncory
Rachel McAdams Fan
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:13 am Posts: 14544 Location: LA / NYC
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Re: Beauty and the Beast
This is still my favorite animated movie and one of the movies I hold closest to my heart. I hope the remake is good.
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Sun Apr 19, 2015 12:43 pm |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 20345 Location: Where they shot Knock at the Cabin
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Re: Beauty and the Beast
publicenemy#1 wrote: What are the plot holes? Where are the king and queen if the Beast is a prince? Where is his kingdom? How has no one found this castle in years and then Maurice just stumbles upon it? Where are all of the castle's real household objects? Why does the beats think acting like an asshole will help his case? If the beast is 21 in the film, he was cursed at 11. Who would curse an 11 year old for being an asshole? All 11 year olds are assholes. Why are there thousands upon thousands of attenders to one prince? Why does the beast have a portrait of himself as he looks today when he has been a beast for 10 years? Why wasn't Belle allowed to see the rose?
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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Re: Beauty and the Beast
Those aren't plot holes.
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Mon Apr 20, 2015 10:29 am |
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thompsoncory
Rachel McAdams Fan
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:13 am Posts: 14544 Location: LA / NYC
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Re: Beauty and the Beast
Watching this again tonight and it's still one of my favorite films of all time. I also don't think any movie has as much personal value to me as this one (it's the first movie I ever saw in a theater). If the remake is good I'm going to probably be sobbing all the way through.
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Sat Nov 14, 2015 10:06 pm |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 20345 Location: Where they shot Knock at the Cabin
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Re: Beauty and the Beast
Still an excellent movie. At least the soundtrack for the new movie clarified why no one in the kingdom remembered the Beast or the servants.
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Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:34 pm |
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thompsoncory
Rachel McAdams Fan
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:13 am Posts: 14544 Location: LA / NYC
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Re: Beauty and the Beast
This will never not be my favorite animated movie.
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Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:23 pm |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 20345 Location: Where they shot Knock at the Cabin
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Re: Beauty and the Beast
This is my favorite Disney movie hands down. Lightning in a bottle everything came together perfectly type experience that Disney has come close to, but not quite matched since.
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