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kypade
Kypade
Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 10:53 pm Posts: 7908
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more likely, everyone assumes they understood the story-"line" because, well, yknow, there wasnt much to it.
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Sat Dec 09, 2006 5:43 pm |
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The Dark Shape
Extraordinary
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:56 am Posts: 12119 Location: Adrift in L.A.
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bradley witherberry wrote: I have a sneaking suspicion that everyone in this thread (and I include myself) was so baffled by the bizarro, spaced-out story-"line", that they are perhaps rating The Fountain higher than it deserves so as not to look like the only dumbass who didn't understand it...
I didn't understand all of it. I don't think we're meant to. But I definitely got enough of it that I can come to my own conclusions.
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Bradley Witherberry
Extraordinary
Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:13 pm Posts: 15197 Location: Planet Xatar
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The Dark Shape wrote: bradley witherberry wrote: I have a sneaking suspicion that everyone in this thread (and I include myself) was so baffled by the bizarro, spaced-out story-"line", that they are perhaps rating The Fountain higher than it deserves so as not to look like the only dumbass who didn't understand it... I didn't understand all of it. I don't think we're meant to. But I definitely got enough of it that I can come to my own conclusions.
Okay, okay -- you're not the one dumbass...
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Sun Dec 10, 2006 3:08 am |
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Steve
Indiana Jones IV
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:09 pm Posts: 1796
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This movie was brilliant... and I did understand it, almost completely, on a level deeper than any other movie has affected me before. Don't presume to understand why a person loves a film by attributing it to an 'incoherent' or 'bizarre' storyline, because maybe it's just incoherent or bizarre to you. I dunno.... maybe you have to be crazy for this movie to make perfect sense, or maybe you just have to be a genius.... I'll take a little of both, thanks.
btw -- this was the first movie I've seen thrice in theaters since Fellowship of the Ring, all of five years ago. I'm thinking I need to take a break from it now, let my soul return to baseline... then watch it again in a year or so and BLASM!!!(the sound of a spiritual orgasm)
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Sun Dec 10, 2006 6:01 pm |
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Mr. Reynolds
Confessing on a Dance Floor
Joined: Tue Nov 23, 2004 12:46 am Posts: 5567 Location: Celebratin' in Chitown
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I would imagine those that love this movie relate to the story on an emotional level. but that doesn't make the movie brilliant. it has many flaws. the story has flaws. the parallel stories are not executed well. visually it is stunning but that's about it.
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Sun Dec 10, 2006 8:31 pm |
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Bradley Witherberry
Extraordinary
Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:13 pm Posts: 15197 Location: Planet Xatar
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Steve wrote: This movie was brilliant... and I did understand it, almost completely, on a level deeper than any other movie has affected me before. Don't presume to understand why a person loves a film by attributing it to an 'incoherent' or 'bizarre' storyline, because maybe it's just incoherent or bizarre to you. I dunno.... maybe you have to be crazy for this movie to make perfect sense, or maybe you just have to be a genius.... I'll take a little of both, thanks.
Excellent! I'm happy to hear that the movie made perfect sense to you. I'd love to hear your explanation of The Fountain, oh crazy genius. Lay it on us...
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Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:24 pm |
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Gulli
Jordan Mugen-Honda
Joined: Mon May 01, 2006 9:53 am Posts: 13400
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Only watched 30 minutes so far, Its not looking good to be honest. absolute shit would be an accurate description thus far.
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Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:13 pm |
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Box
Extraordinary
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:52 am Posts: 25990
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The more I think about it, the more I realize how ridiculous and unintentionally funny a film this is. The visual splendor does nothing to compensate for a very weak story.
The film, as I see it, has little meaning beyond a patchwork of cliched ideas we've seen played out over and over again in 'new age' circles. Its attempts to combine Judeo-Christian, Eastern, and Mayan mythologies is embarrassingly watered down. I would say that Aronofsky's ineptness in handling the big ideas he wants to discuss creates a sense of uncertainty which viewers might mistake for something deeply meaningful. I think it's like Donnie Darko, another film I've grown to dislike. Neither has much meaning beyond what viewers impose on it, and in both cases, people's explanations tell us more about them and their waste of time than it does about the movie.
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Fri Dec 22, 2006 5:01 pm |
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trixster
loyalfromlondon
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:31 pm Posts: 19697 Location: ville-marie
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I quite loved it. It felt a bit too short, and as a result the story was a bit shortchanged, but the visuals were stunning and the theme was just as amazing. And Hugh Jackman, wow. I've thought he was great in everything I've seen him in - even the crap - but this could be his best performance to date. In three roles, he never seems out of place or over his head, and his character forms the emotional core of the film and makes it even more powerful. I think I understood most of the basic plot points, and I felt satisfied instead of confused at the film's end, but I really liked how a lot of it was left open to interpretation. And the visual effects, despite minimizing the use of CGI, are quite beautiful. Every scene of the "bubble ship" is quite lovely to watch. It's flawed, but it attempts to do something quite remarkable, and so it is a flawed masterpiece.
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Thu May 03, 2007 10:13 pm |
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zingy
College Boy Z
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:40 pm Posts: 36662
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Great, great performances and visual effects, but the rest... WTF?
I just didn't get it. I didn't connect with this film at all. I guess I could sit here and think about the film for hours and hours and attempt to find some significance to this flick, but I shouldn't have to do that.
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Sun May 13, 2007 3:31 am |
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Jim Halpert
Stanley Cup
Joined: Sat Aug 26, 2006 1:52 pm Posts: 6981 Location: Hockey Town
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the more i think about this film the more i hate it. I gave it a B- originally but now its down to a
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Sun May 13, 2007 1:43 pm |
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The Dark Shape
Extraordinary
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:56 am Posts: 12119 Location: Adrift in L.A.
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Zingaling wrote: Great, great performances and visual effects, but the rest... WTF?
I just didn't get it. I didn't connect with this film at all. I guess I could sit here and think about the film for hours and hours and attempt to find some significance to this flick, but I shouldn't have to do that.
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Sun May 13, 2007 4:22 pm |
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Gulli
Jordan Mugen-Honda
Joined: Mon May 01, 2006 9:53 am Posts: 13400
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I realized I never reviewed this. For me its nothing more then a half-assed stab at sections of a Stephen Baxter novel. It's looking for deeper meaning and tries to ask a lot of questions but in the end I just felt like re-reading Vacuum Diagrams more then re-watching to see if I'd missed something.
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Sun May 13, 2007 4:30 pm |
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zingy
College Boy Z
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:40 pm Posts: 36662
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The Dark Shape wrote: Zingaling wrote: Great, great performances and visual effects, but the rest... WTF?
I just didn't get it. I didn't connect with this film at all. I guess I could sit here and think about the film for hours and hours and attempt to find some significance to this flick, but I shouldn't have to do that.
C- Stunner
Heh, I guess I should have expected this considering that you gave it an A+ and I'm usually on the opposite end, but this was seriously one of my most anticipated films of the fall.
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Sun May 13, 2007 4:36 pm |
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The Dark Shape
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:56 am Posts: 12119 Location: Adrift in L.A.
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The only problem I really have with your review (as it is SO not a movie for everybody) is the "but I shouldn't have to do that" part. That's one of the great things about movies, man. Maybe you'll appreciate it more as you get older (thinking about movies for hours and hours, not necessarily The Fountain).
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Sun May 13, 2007 4:56 pm |
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Jim Halpert
Stanley Cup
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The Dark Shape wrote: The only problem I really have with your review (as it is SO not a movie for everybody) is the "but I shouldn't have to do that" part. That's one of the great things about movies, man. Maybe you'll appreciate it more as you get older (thinking about movies for hours and hours, not The Fountain).
i'm 20 and thought the film was stupid. it wasn't important or psychological study like it thought it was. it was boring, the performances were decent, but overall it was just a damn boring film.
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Sun May 13, 2007 4:58 pm |
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 37993
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I think thinking about its meaning for hours is the point of The Fountain, though I was a bit disappointed with the film personally. The ending with the garden sprouting and religious space tom explosion went too far, there's deep meaning and then there's scenes like that which just leave you scratching your head.
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Sun May 13, 2007 5:00 pm |
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Gulli
Jordan Mugen-Honda
Joined: Mon May 01, 2006 9:53 am Posts: 13400
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Somebody else read some Stephen Baxter to verify my opinion that large sections of this are a bad rip-off.
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Sun May 13, 2007 5:01 pm |
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
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The more I've thought about this movie actually, the less I've liked it... I can maybe understand what the director was going after, but the execution just didn't work, and it just descended into babble trying way too hard to be deep and cult appealing. Mulholland Drive, Taxi Driver, Vertigo, those are deep and masterful films... The Fountain, ehh.
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Sun May 13, 2007 5:05 pm |
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trixster
loyalfromlondon
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:31 pm Posts: 19697 Location: ville-marie
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Jayhawk wrote: The Dark Shape wrote: The only problem I really have with your review (as it is SO not a movie for everybody) is the "but I shouldn't have to do that" part. That's one of the great things about movies, man. Maybe you'll appreciate it more as you get older (thinking about movies for hours and hours, not The Fountain). i'm 20 and thought the film was stupid. it wasn't important or psychological study like it thought it was. it was boring, the performances were decent, but overall it was just a damn boring film.
I'm 19 and I thought the film was great. The ending actually reminded me of 2001 quite a bit. So out there that you have to pause and reflect on it. It's not a movie you can just leave behind after watching it.
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Mon May 14, 2007 7:40 pm |
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Box
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Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:52 am Posts: 25990
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This is a stupid movie. The end. Now let us as a civilization please move on.
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matatonio
Teh Mexican
Joined: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:56 pm Posts: 26066 Location: In good ol' Mexico
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It sucked and it was boring...maybe i didnt get but i dont care. It just was so unninteresting to me...
D+
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Thu Jun 07, 2007 11:29 pm |
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Squee
Squee
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 10:01 pm Posts: 13270 Location: Yuppieville
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It wasn't what I thought it was going to be, and also, while it was gorgeous, I didn't understand the stuff in the "future"
Wasn't horrible, though.
**1/2
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Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:04 am |
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kypade
Kypade
Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 10:53 pm Posts: 7908
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fuck mangs, you dont have to think about the movie for a minute... it's a love story. that's it.
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Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:41 am |
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Dkmuto
Forum General
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 1:00 am Posts: 6502
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It had its lovely moments, but I was left unmoved.
I didn't think the relationship penetrated on any real emotional level. The present-day scenes, which I think anchor the film (whether you think the actual relationship takes place here or not), should develop their love, but they fail to provide any sort of insight. The visuals carry the film, but without much emotional backing, they're really just there for show.
The forced writing in the present-day scenes didn't help things either.
I thought Hugh Jackman overdid it for the most part. Weisz was passable, but a bit boring, surprisingly.
Disappointing.
C+
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