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Dr. Lecter You must have big rats Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany	Box wrote: Jiffy208 wrote: I adore this film. The thing that has bugged me about the ending though, since it was pointed out to me, is that when she dies she doesn't see like the husband and father of her children that she spent like 80 some odd years with when she dies, she sees the guy she had a couple day fling with, heh. Granted that fling is shown to be the changing point in her life, but still, no love for hubby? Yay! Another Titanic-lover! I feel that the one thing that the last scene showed is that she stayed true to her promise to Jack, that she wouldn't let go (of her dreams, etc.). It's not unusual for people to marry someone who is not their true love; marriage and love aren't always compatible, and marriages begun in love often end up in divorce, when the couple realizes that they no longer love each other, or that the love was never really there. If you read all of Rose's subsequent life as a fulfillment of her promise to Jack, then it makes sense that, at the end, she would return to him, in a way as a gesture, to say "I didn't let go". I know I'm stretching this, but I saw Jack's outstretched hand as the parallel and contrast to Rose having to let go of his hands on the raft. Whereas her letting go marked the separation between them, her acceptance of his hand marks the (re)union. And indeed, the last scene as a whole is reminiscent of marriage, the marriage they never had. At last, they're together. Also: That was the scenes that audiences definitely wanted to see and to have that as the final scene of the movie is an immense emotional punch. If someone is not touched by this movie at all, I think this person truly is somewhat emotionless. _________________ The greatest thing on earth is to love and to be loved in return!
Sun Dec 18, 2005 11:35 pm

Box Extraordinary Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:52 am Posts: 25990	Hehe It's also necessary on a technical and structural level to ignore the husband and family: the one thing that keeps the whole film together is Rose and Jack's love. It would be insane to stress that she got married, had children, etc. beyond the most necessary parts. Heck, I don't even think we're aware of the fact that she is on the ship as an old woman with her daughter (or granddaughter?) for very long. _________________ In order of preference: Christian, Argos MadGez wrote: Briefs. Am used to them and boxers can get me in trouble it seems. Too much room and maybe the silkiness have created more than one awkward situation. My Box-Office Blog: http://boxofficetracker.blogspot.com/
Sun Dec 18, 2005 11:39 pm

jb007 Veteran Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 1:47 pm Posts: 3917 Location: Las Vegas	I am not a big fan of Titanic. To begin with I am not even a big fan of love stories. One thing about Titanic I really loved was Leo's charming and vibrant performance. The fact he did not even get nominated for an oscar that year with all the Titanic wave bugs the hell out of me. _________________ Dr. RajKumar 4/24/1929 - 4/12/2006 The Greatest Actor Ever. Thanks for The Best Cinematic Memories of My Life.
Mon Dec 19, 2005 1:01 am

MikeQ. The French Dutch Boy Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 8:28 pm Posts: 10266 Location: Mordor, Middle Earth	Dr. Lecter wrote: Box wrote: Jiffy208 wrote: I adore this film. The thing that has bugged me about the ending though, since it was pointed out to me, is that when she dies she doesn't see like the husband and father of her children that she spent like 80 some odd years with when she dies, she sees the guy she had a couple day fling with, heh. Granted that fling is shown to be the changing point in her life, but still, no love for hubby? Yay! Another Titanic-lover! I feel that the one thing that the last scene showed is that she stayed true to her promise to Jack, that she wouldn't let go (of her dreams, etc.). It's not unusual for people to marry someone who is not their true love; marriage and love aren't always compatible, and marriages begun in love often end up in divorce, when the couple realizes that they no longer love each other, or that the love was never really there. If you read all of Rose's subsequent life as a fulfillment of her promise to Jack, then it makes sense that, at the end, she would return to him, in a way as a gesture, to say "I didn't let go". I know I'm stretching this, but I saw Jack's outstretched hand as the parallel and contrast to Rose having to let go of his hands on the raft. Whereas her letting go marked the separation between them, her acceptance of his hand marks the (re)union. And indeed, the last scene as a whole is reminiscent of marriage, the marriage they never had. At last, they're together. Also: That was the scenes that audiences definitely wanted to see and to have that as the final scene of the movie is an immense emotional punch. If someone is not touched by this movie at all, I think this person truly is somewhat emotionless. Not only all this, but I would find it the weirdest ending ever if they had ended it with her dreaming about her husband. It would be totally random. Her husband means nothing to us; we've spent our emotions towards Jack and Rose and Jack sacrificing his life so that Rose is able to live a wonderful life. I think I would have hated the ending if they suddenly brought her husband in, whether in a dream or not. I don't give a shit about her husband. Anyhoo, I think I already posted my review in here, but I LOVE this film. It receives as an A+ from me and is considered my #1 film of all time. PEACE, Mike.
Mon Dec 19, 2005 1:02 am

Chris life begins now Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:09 pm Posts: 6480 Location: Columbus, Ohio	Dr. Lecter wrote: Chris wrote: Libs wrote: I was watching most of this again on HBO just now. The end, where Old Rose dies/dreams of her and Jack "reuniting" on the Titanic while everyone claps always gets me. Wait...she dies? Granted, I haven't seen the film in a few years, but I don't remember that. That's an interpretation (which I agree with). I guess I'll have to get the special edition and watch it over Christmas. It makes sense now that I think about it, but I never have before. The last time I watched it was at least 4 years ago, so it's time for me to watch it again anyway.
Mon Dec 19, 2005 9:43 pm

Chris life begins now Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:09 pm Posts: 6480 Location: Columbus, Ohio	jb007 wrote: I am not a big fan of Titanic. To begin with I am not even a big fan of love stories. One thing about Titanic I really loved was Leo's charming and vibrant performance. The fact he did not even get nominated for an oscar that year with all the Titanic wave bugs the hell out of me. That was very weird. Also, the screenplay wasn't that great, but could they have at least given it a bone? 14 is a lot, yes, but why not give it the extra two?
Mon Dec 19, 2005 9:46 pm

baumer72 Mod Team Leader Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:00 pm Posts: 7087 Location: Crystal Lake	Box wrote: Jiffy208 wrote: I adore this film. The thing that has bugged me about the ending though, since it was pointed out to me, is that when she dies she doesn't see like the husband and father of her children that she spent like 80 some odd years with when she dies, she sees the guy she had a couple day fling with, heh. Granted that fling is shown to be the changing point in her life, but still, no love for hubby? Yay! Another Titanic-lover! I feel that the one thing that the last scene showed is that she stayed true to her promise to Jack, that she wouldn't let go (of her dreams, etc.). It's not unusual for people to marry someone who is not their true love; marriage and love aren't always compatible, and marriages begun in love often end up in divorce, when the couple realizes that they no longer love each other, or that the love was never really there. If you read all of Rose's subsequent life as a fulfillment of her promise to Jack, then it makes sense that, at the end, she would return to him, in a way as a gesture, to say "I didn't let go". I know I'm stretching this, but I saw Jack's outstretched hand as the parallel and contrast to Rose having to let go of his hands on the raft. Whereas her letting go marked the separation between them, her acceptance of his hand marks the (re)union. And indeed, the last scene as a whole is reminiscent of marriage, the marriage they never had. At last, they're together. RAISE HAND FRANTICALLY!!!!!! I am a lover of the film as well....oneof my all time faves.. _________________ Brick Tamland: Yeah, there were horses, and a man on fire, and I killed a guy with a trident. Ron Burgundy: Brick, I've been meaning to talk to you about that. You should find yourself a safehouse or a relative close by. Lay low for a while, because you're probably wanted for murder.
Fri Dec 23, 2005 8:57 pm

Bradley Witherberry Extraordinary Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:13 pm Posts: 15197 Location: Planet Xatar	I'm in the "perfect" camp on this one - loved it - it is emotionally note-perfect... 6 out of 5.
Fri Dec 23, 2005 9:18 pm

The Steeeve Star Trek XI Joined: Sat Feb 18, 2006 2:40 pm Posts: 331	Not overrated in the least. Sure sometimes I'd like to see something else as the "number 1 movie of all time" but it doesn't matter. It's cheesy, but it's a good quality kind of cheesy. Not annoying cheesy. And it's got really great music.
Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:18 pm

Bradley Witherberry Extraordinary Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:13 pm Posts: 15197 Location: Planet Xatar	Box wrote: I feel that the one thing that the last scene showed is that she stayed true to her promise to Jack, that she wouldn't let go (of her dreams, etc.). It's not unusual for people to marry someone who is not their true love; marriage and love aren't always compatible, and marriages begun in love often end up in divorce, when the couple realizes that they no longer love each other, or that the love was never really there. If you read all of Rose's subsequent life as a fulfillment of her promise to Jack, then it makes sense that, at the end, she would return to him, in a way as a gesture, to say "I didn't let go". I know I'm stretching this, but I saw Jack's outstretched hand as the parallel and contrast to Rose having to let go of his hands on the raft. Whereas her letting go marked the separation between them, her acceptance of his hand marks the (re)union. And indeed, the last scene as a whole is reminiscent of marriage, the marriage they never had. At last, they're together. That's a very good analysis of the meaning and purpose of the scene!
Wed Mar 15, 2006 6:58 am

matatonio Teh Mexican Joined: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:56 pm Posts: 26066 Location: In good ol' Mexico	I watched Titanic today for the first time in a LONG time, and i think i underrated it quite a lot. Its beautifully done, it touching and heartbreaking. the performances werent all that good A-
Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:22 pm

DIB2 All Star Poster Joined: Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:57 am Posts: 4669 Location: Anchorage, AK	A+ _________________ My Most anticipated films of 2015 Last edited by DIB2 on Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:44 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:45 pm

Cotton Some days I'm a super bitch Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 7:22 pm Posts: 6645	Yay, I love Titanic! Seeing it for the first time in theaters when I was 11 is probably my favorite movie memory. A
Wed Jun 28, 2006 2:27 am

trixster loyalfromlondon Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:31 pm Posts: 19697 Location: ville-marie	Beautiful to look it, and easy to watch over again, but not necessarily a great film. It is pretty good - mostly because the last 90 minutes or so are fantastic cinema - but it's not particularly well-written or well-acted. The dialogue is often cringe-worthy, and the acting is not that impressive, though that could be due to the dialogue more than the actors. The story is simple enough, but carried out pretty well, and the look of the film is outstanding. All the technical aspects are top-notch, making for a thrilling last half. The first half is no slouch either, though, and I felt the film transitioned nicely from love story to disaster epic. All in all, an entertaining but slightly underwhelming epic. _________________ Magic Mike wrote: zwackerm wrote: If John Wick 2 even makes 30 million I will eat 1,000 shoes. Same. Algren wrote: I don't think. I predict. Last edited by trixster on Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:50 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:33 pm

Excel Superfreak Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:54 am Posts: 21880 Location: Places	this was incredible. when i saw this in theater i rember ebign like omg ooo awwwww look at dat! A+ for sure
Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:41 pm

Riggs We had our time together Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 4:36 am Posts: 13270 Location: Vienna	This movie will stay forever in my all time top three. Just perfect. A+
Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:40 am

Barrabás llegó a la casa vía marítima Joined: Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:53 pm Posts: 6138 Location: la gran casa de la esquina	Re: Titanic Incredible. Cameron captures the scope of the disaster and one of the most endearing love stories of all time in this masterpiece. The acting is incredible, the visuals are amazing and better than most of what we get nowadays. The sinking sequences are thrilling and the score is the best of all-time. An unmatched triumph, this is the very best Hollywood can produce. My #2 of all-time. A++++++ _________________ .
Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:02 pm

Mannyisthebest Forum General Joined: Wed May 10, 2006 3:53 pm Posts: 8636 Location: Toronto, Canada	Re: Titanic I give it an A- It is quite a good film if you look at it from unbias point of view. It is number 69 on my list between Mulan and Last of the Mohicans... _________________ The Dark Prince
Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:35 pm

Darth Indiana Bond 007 Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:43 pm Posts: 11006 Location: Wouldn't you like to know	Re: Titanic If you know me, I am very hard to please when it comes to romance, although I do believe romance can lead to the best stories. However, this one does not fall into that category, and I can't sit through them at all. It does have great direction, so for that I am slightly forgivable, but the overall tone of the story really isn't my thing. C+ _________________
Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:58 pm

Mannyisthebest Forum General Joined: Wed May 10, 2006 3:53 pm Posts: 8636 Location: Toronto, Canada	Re: Titanic whats your take on Casablanca and Gone With The Wind??? _________________ The Dark Prince
Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:32 pm

Darth Indiana Bond 007 Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:43 pm Posts: 11006 Location: Wouldn't you like to know	Re: Titanic Mannyisthebest wrote: whats your take on Casablanca and Gone With The Wind??? Casablanca is a more relatable romance, and if it weren't so boring at times, I'd be one of the better romance films. Gone With the Wind....same as Titanic but with an outdated production. _________________
Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:01 pm

Corpse Don't Dream It, Be It Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:45 pm Posts: 37152 Location: The Graveyard	Re: Titanic My #7 All Time Favorite Movie, and 1 of only 7 films I'd give an A+ to. _________________ Japan Box Office *“Gods are great ... but the heart is greater. For it is from our hearts they come, and to our hearts they shall return.”* *“We were like gods at the dawning of the world, & our joy was so bright we could see nothing else but the other.”* *“There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.”* *“You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.”* *"Paper is dead without words / Ink idle without a poem / All the world dead without stories."*
Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:04 pm

Speevy Veteran Joined: Wed May 11, 2005 9:12 am Posts: 3139	Re: Titanic How can people possibly like a movie that romanticizes the slavery in the South? That's one movie I refuse to ever watch again. Gone With the Wind: F----------------------------
Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:46 pm

Bradley Witherberry Extraordinary Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:13 pm Posts: 15197 Location: Planet Xatar	Re: Titanic Speevy wrote: How can people possibly like a movie that romanticizes the slavery in the South? That's one movie I refuse to ever watch again. Gone With the Wind: F---------------------------- If you think GWTW is primarily about slavery, then perhaps I shouldn't even start into the difference between historical reality and romanticizing. And what of the historic Best Supporting Actress Oscar win for Hattie McDaniel?
Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:14 pm

Speevy Veteran Joined: Wed May 11, 2005 9:12 am Posts: 3139	Re: Titanic Bradley Witherberry wrote: Speevy wrote: How can people possibly like a movie that romanticizes the slavery in the South? That's one movie I refuse to ever watch again. Gone With the Wind: F---------------------------- If you think GWTW is primarily about slavery, then perhaps I shouldn't even start into the difference between historical reality and romanticizing. And what of the historic Best Supporting Actress Oscar win for Hattie McDaniel? I never said it was primarily about slavery, simply that romanticizes a horrible time period in American history. What's next, a movie that romanticizes the Holocaust? And yes it was a great accomplishment for McDaniel to win an Oscar, but the role was nonetheless an archetype condoning slavery.
Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:42 pm
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