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The Dark Shape
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:56 am Posts: 12119 Location: Adrift in L.A.
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 Re: Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
I think the graveyard scene is quite disappointing, but that has more to do with how good it is in the book than anything else. It's sadly a fanboy qualm. I can usually shake them.
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Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:38 am |
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David
Pure Phase
Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:33 am Posts: 34865 Location: Maryland
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 Re: Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
Best part of number four is when Jarvis Cocker, Jonny Greenwood, and Phil Selway cameo.
Prisoner of Azkaban is still my favorite of the HP films.
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Thu Jun 09, 2011 5:14 am |
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MovieDude
Where will you be?
Joined: Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:50 am Posts: 11675
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 Re: Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
I agree with the sentiment that the franchise really got great in the middle, but I would still argue that #1 and #2 are better movies than the last two films. I didn't have to have the read the books to get those movies, but the last two movies were cryptic, confusing, and boring. It's not that they were trying to emulate David Lynch or something. They just didn't have any real narrative arc like Sirius Black + Dementors, the the tournament in Gof, or even the origin story of Philosopher's Stone. Voldemort as a villian is just pretty lame, as he's had seven movies to be a bad guy and really doesn't have much to show for it. PoA nay be the best Harry Potter movie because while its set in this fascinating world, it doesn't overconcern itself with that lame villian. And Goblet of Fire may also be the best because it's the only one where he comes off as a really intimidating, scary villian... Well that and Philosopher's Stone.
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Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:29 am |
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Mister Ecks
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 Re: Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
After seeing all six films, I'd agree that to really get the most from the stories, especially OotP and HBP, it definitely helps to have read the books first, if it isn't a requirement.
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Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:52 pm |
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The Dark Shape
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:56 am Posts: 12119 Location: Adrift in L.A.
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 Re: Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
Half-Blood Prince is confusing? I do think Order of the Phoenix relies a bit too much on book readers, but HBP is fairly simple. And Deathly Hallows is only confusing if you don't know the films. The only thing in that flick that seems to rely on the book is Godric's Hollow, and that's because they cut Harry leaving his aunt and uncle, which would've explained it for film audiences.
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Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:33 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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I don't think any of the films are confusing, but I still think it helps to read the books beforehand. They're fun reads.
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Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:01 am |
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MovieDude
Where will you be?
Joined: Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:50 am Posts: 11675
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 Re: Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
No, Half Blood Prince is just kinda plodding and dull. It felt like the series was trying to emulate Twilight, what with the huge focus on the angsty romance and the super anti-climactic 'action' scenes.
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Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:18 am |
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Mister Ecks
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MovieDude wrote: No, Half Blood Prince is just kinda plodding and dull. It felt like the series was trying to emulate Twilight, what with the huge focus on the angsty romance and the super anti-climactic 'action' scenes. Actually, the angsty romance is a part of the book. That would probably be my biggest critique of the book. There were parts with Harry and Ginny that felt like a 14-year-old fangirl was writing them.
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Sat Jun 11, 2011 12:25 pm |
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The Dark Shape
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:56 am Posts: 12119 Location: Adrift in L.A.
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MovieDude wrote: No, Half Blood Prince is just kinda plodding and dull. It felt like the series was trying to emulate Twilight, what with the huge focus on the angsty romance and the super anti-climactic 'action' scenes. Teen romance wasn't invented by Twilight, you know. And the key difference is that Harry, Ron, and Hermione are likable characters, whereas Bella's an insufferable cunt.
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Sat Jun 11, 2011 12:40 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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It's funny that I thought that the films started looking more like Twilight at around GoF and OotP and especially HBP... then I realized that all six HP films were made and ready to release long before Twilight came out. Even HBP was originally set to be released before Twilight. So... I guess it's the other way around.
Btw, I've only seen the first Twilight. I don't want to be thought less of around here, any more than I already am.
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Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:01 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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Also, I forgot to mention how much fun Helena Bonham Carter has been in her brief appearances as Bellatrix. Criticize the films any way you want but they got a lot of the casting right.
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Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:04 pm |
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The Dark Shape
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:56 am Posts: 12119 Location: Adrift in L.A.
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Mister Ecks wrote: It's funny that I thought that the films started looking more like Twilight at around GoF and OotP and especially HBP... then I realized that all six HP films were made and ready to release long before Twilight came out. Even HBP was originally set to be released before Twilight. So... I guess it's the other way around. Yeah, that always amused me. "It's trying to be like Twilight!" "Except for the fact the book was written in 2005, and the movie was scheduled to come out before the first Twilight flick, right?"
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Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:06 pm |
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trixster
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Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:31 pm Posts: 19697 Location: ville-marie
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The only complete film of the franchise.
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Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:29 pm |
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Biggestgeekever
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Joined: Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:58 am Posts: 5192 Location: The Great _______
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Considering this came off the tepid (to say the least) Columbus duo, I can see why this one is so revered. Everything comes together a lot more smoothly, the child actors are growing into the roles, and Cuarón's direction is pretty great. That said, I feel like some of the scenes here don't work because they're so fucking weird (like the Knight Bus), and the film isn't really that funny. Azkaban does have its share of laughs, but compared to Prince and especially Goblet, it is nearly humorless.
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Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:55 am |
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publicenemy#1
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:25 am Posts: 19440 Location: San Diego
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 Re: Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
Last 40 minutes of this are so good.
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zwackerm
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Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21587 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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 Re: Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
This movie started the trend of not following the books quite as closely; while this movie was very close to the book, it unfortunately was a foreshadowing of what was to come in the fourth, fifth and sixth films. The story is certainly more complex and original than the second, but the time travel aspects at the end leave more questions unanswered than answered. I don't understand why this film was shorter than the first two though. The book is longer, and more mature, so I think it should keep most adults entertained for as long as the others. Gary Oldman is great, even though its hard to watch him in them when you know how much he dislikes them. David Thewlis, Timothy Spall, and Emma Thompson also create memorable characters that are integral to the story as a whole (even though all three's arcs are greatly diminished from the novel in the long run.) Overall, not as good as the first two, but still just wonderful.
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Argos
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 Re: Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
zwackerm wrote: Overall, not as good as the first two, but still just wonderful. Disqualified from all further movie commentary. Have a nice life!
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Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:55 pm |
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zwackerm
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Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21587 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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 Re: Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
Argos wrote: zwackerm wrote: Overall, not as good as the first two, but still just wonderful. Disqualified from all further movie commentary. Have a nice life! As a huge fan of the books, I like the ones that stay closer to the story.
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Argos
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 Re: Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
zwackerm wrote: Argos wrote: zwackerm wrote: Overall, not as good as the first two, but still just wonderful. Disqualified from all further movie commentary. Have a nice life! As a huge fan of the books, I like the ones that stay closer to the story. Poor judgment is poor judgment.
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Algren
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68365
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This film is an outright F. Such a piece of shit.
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The Dark Shape
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:56 am Posts: 12119 Location: Adrift in L.A.
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zwackerm wrote: Argos wrote: zwackerm wrote: Overall, not as good as the first two, but still just wonderful. Disqualified from all further movie commentary. Have a nice life! As a huge fan of the books, I like the ones that stay closer to the story. And as a huge fan of the books, I like the ones that actually feel like the books, not just reproduce text like a three hour live reading. 
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Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:59 pm |
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zwackerm
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Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21587 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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The Dark Shape wrote: zwackerm wrote: Argos wrote: zwackerm wrote: Overall, not as good as the first two, but still just wonderful. Disqualified from all further movie commentary. Have a nice life! As a huge fan of the books, I like the ones that stay closer to the story. And as a huge fan of the books, I like the ones that actually feel like the books, not just reproduce text like a three hour live reading.  I think they feel the most like the books. They are just so magical. The only thing that really can be argued is that the three leads get better at acting in later films.
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thompsoncory
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:13 am Posts: 14626 Location: LA / NYC
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 Re: Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
Film and literature are completely different mediums. The changes they made to the later films are completely necessary and make them more engaging as features. They are easily superior to the early movies (of which is one is actually my least favorite).
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Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:14 pm |
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zwackerm
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thompsoncory wrote: Film and literature are completely different mediums. The changes they made to the later films are completely necessary and make them more engaging as features. They are easily superior to the early movies (of which is one is actually my least favorite). Making Goblet of Fire action setpiece after action setpiece didn't make it better than the early ones. Not explaining any aspects of the story and just expecting them to go along with random throwaway lines that reference the source material (But Remus, your son? WTF?) Didn't make them better than the early ones. Making Half Blood Prince a rom-com instead of an awesome story where you finally get to learn about the most evil wizard to ever live didn't make it better than the early ones. The later films just favor action over plot. POA is not guilty of this though. Neither is OOTP or DH. I really think GOF and HBP are misrepresented by the film medium.
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Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:51 pm |
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The Dark Shape
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HALF-BLOOD PRINCE isn't a rom-com? Have you read that book?
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Sat Jan 10, 2015 11:16 pm |
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