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What grade would you give this film?
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 Captain America: The First Avenger 
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Put me on a disappointed list. Now don't get me wrong, the cast they got for this was great and their acting was fine but just the story didn't seem to be there. The buildup wasn't bad into making Steve Captain America, but I feel everything afterwards was just so random and some of the motives just seemed a bit silly. Also, I felt at times the film was just saying "Hey look Steve can do this now!" I was really excited for a superhero period piece and while the costuming fit the time and even the romance was done quite well, not much else fit. Also, all this Avengers shit in the origin movies needs to stop. I feel this film, based off the very beginning and very end, was just a means to be a transition piece instead of just letting this being a Captain America film and not needing this shit. It feels like his freezing was so rushed and they were like "Ok we have to do this if we want this Avengers piece, let's try not to do another film in this time period with Steve." This had me thinking back on Thor, which I liked better than this, and now I even like it a bit less because of the little Avenger incorporation there. This film just could of been so so so much better and it's a shame that we'll probably get the same shtick happening in post-Avenger Marvel films. **


Look, you all better get used to this whether you like it or not, this is a very popular thing to do in marketing future films and like it nor not, The AVENGERS is going to be HUGE next summer.. Let me ask you this: I'm almost 98% certain that your a fan of anything and everything that is TDK.. If in both TDK and TDKR, they had teased a JLA movie in the works, are you saying you wouldn't have been even the slightest bit excited for the prospect of something like this that's never been done before?? Really???


Yeah I would be pissed because then it takes away from the nature of what the film is suppose to be about which is the character in the title.


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Put me on a disappointed list. Now don't get me wrong, the cast they got for this was great and their acting was fine but just the story didn't seem to be there. The buildup wasn't bad into making Steve Captain America, but I feel everything afterwards was just so random and some of the motives just seemed a bit silly. Also, I felt at times the film was just saying "Hey look Steve can do this now!" I was really excited for a superhero period piece and while the costuming fit the time and even the romance was done quite well, not much else fit. Also, all this Avengers shit in the origin movies needs to stop. I feel this film, based off the very beginning and very end, was just a means to be a transition piece instead of just letting this being a Captain America film and not needing this shit. It feels like his freezing was so rushed and they were like "Ok we have to do this if we want this Avengers piece, let's try not to do another film in this time period with Steve." This had me thinking back on Thor, which I liked better than this, and now I even like it a bit less because of the little Avenger incorporation there. This film just could of been so so so much better and it's a shame that we'll probably get the same shtick happening in post-Avenger Marvel films. **


Look, you all better get used to this whether you like it or not, this is a very popular thing to do in marketing future films and like it nor not, The AVENGERS is going to be HUGE next summer.. Let me ask you this: I'm almost 98% certain that your a fan of anything and everything that is TDK.. If in both TDK and TDKR, they had teased a JLA movie in the works, are you saying you wouldn't have been even the slightest bit excited for the prospect of something like this that's never been done before?? Really???


Yeah I would be pissed because then it takes away from the nature of what the film is suppose to be about which is the character in the title.


An after-credits scene for an upcoming JLA movie would've taken you out of the movie???? How would it have hurt the title character???? If it's done right, it's only benefiting it, not hurting it..

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It'd be a weaker, less interesting film if it ended with the shot of the boy with the toy shield.


How so? The film is about Steve's heart and his affect on those around him. Ending with the kid and the shield reinforces what the film is about.

Because going a bit further and unsettling the audience a tiny bit is preferable to ending on The. Most. Expected. Note. Ever.

And they did the ending so incredibly well. I loved the quick twist with the baseball game on the radio and the period-garb nurse giving way to a crowded street in the heart of modern New York City. And, I repeat I repeat I repeat, the final line is so damn perfect. A perfectly wistful note for such a nostalgic film to end on. I would HATE for it to have been squandered in a post-credit scenes.

Plus, the ending they chose is centered entirely on our affection for the Steve Rogers character, which is more interesting to me than a generic Norman Rockwell/YAYAMERICA moment.

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Because going a bit further and unsettling the audience a tiny bit is preferable to ending on The. Most. Expected. Note. Ever.


Ending with Steve meeting Nick Fury is The. Most. Expected. Note. Ever.

The film's ending as it stands is wonky, and I'd bet a fairly large sum of money Joe Johnston would agree with me. It's clear the Times Square scene was pasted in late in the game (also evidenced by the fact it was shot less than three months ago, of course). It doesn't fit the movie it's topping off.


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The ending isn't about Nick Fury at all. He's there, yes, but it's not about him. The scene where he "meets Nick Fury" is clearly in the boxing gym.

The ending is about Steve's realization how long he's been gone and how much everything has changed, which is great.

It's the Marvel version of the 12 Monkeys ending almost, if I'm not too bold. It punches you in the gut a bit. You feel for the character and his time-challenged predicament. So much more interesting than a young boy running around playing Captain America, though I don't mind that shot and where it is in the movie.

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The ending isn't about Nick Fury at all. He's there, yes, but it's not about him. The scene where he "meets Nick Fury" is clearly in the boxing gym.

The ending is about Steve's realization how long he's been gone and how much everything has changed, which is great.

It's the Marvel version of the 12 Monkeys ending almost, if I'm not too bold. It punches you in the gut a bit. You feel for the character and his time-challenged predicament. So much more interesting than a young boy running around playing Captain America, though I don't mind that shot and where it is in the movie.


The ending's totally about meeting Nick Fury, otherwise it wouldn't be there. Which is why they didn't shoot it during principle photography and it wasn't in the first cuts of the film. Marvel wanted a bridge to The Avengers so they shot one at the last second.

It's the same situation as all the bullshit SHIELD stuff grafted onto Iron Man 2's second act in reshoots.


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It might be there for the S.H.I.E.L.D. connection in the minds of the Marvel execs, but Johnston makes it sing and flow naturally with the rest of the film.

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Johnston didn't shoot it.

It also doesn't flow with the rest of the film or I wouldn't have a problem with it.


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My mistake. Whoever shot it made it sing, made it flow, etc., rather.

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It's tonally out of place with the last 115 minutes of movie. It's so jammed in place that even the credits don't match it because they were locked before the scene was shot. What exactly is your definition of 'flow'?

It's the equivalent of Marty McFly getting back to 1985 and finding that his mom and dad are dead and he's an orphan, but Doc Brown still crashes into that dumpster and tells him they don't need roads.


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Johnston didn't shoot it.

It also doesn't flow with the rest of the film or I wouldn't have a problem with it.


Dude, you find a problem with pretty much every film you watch.. You folks need to lighten up on this AVENGERS ranting at the end of these movies, cause like it or not, that's how you build franchises and if it were a JLA teaser for a franchise tacked onto TDK and the upcoming TDKR, you'd all be ejaculating over it so enough with the complaining about it..

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The ending is to the rest of the film what "A Day in the Life" was to Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band.

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The ending is to the rest of the film what "A Day in the Life" was to Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band.

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The whole movie was awesome.. I really hope the Red Skull is in The AVENGERS, even if it's a small part in cahoots with LOKI..

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Dude, you find a problem with pretty much every film you watch..


You're right, I do. 'Cause when I don't find a problem, it means I've watched something truly special. You'll never recognize amazing films if you're impressed with whatever trash comes your way.

Not to say Captain America is trash. Again, I liked it.


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I have two small issues with this movie:

1. I wish the final Captain America vs. Red Skull fight was a bit longer and a bit more vicious. I did love "You don't give up, do you?"/"Nope," though.

2. I wanted more Neal McDonough. He seemed to be very energized, and all the small moments with him were great. Deserved more screen time.

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Why can't all comic-book movies be this enjoyable :D

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Very straight forward and enjoyable. Evans is very good. Ridiculous plot but also very well executed. Ha I didnt realize this took place during world war 2 until about half into the movie.

I also really dig the marvel universe theyre establishing. Howard Stark came out of nowhere and was a cool character.

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The last scene is a bit off but the last line totally makes it work within the context of the film. It's one of my favorite last lines in a comic-book film.


Agreed, almost as good as "im not a bit surprised" :whaa: :thumbsup:

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Really great and easily the best comic-book film of the year. I loved the relationship between Peggy and Steve - the ending was perfect and surprisingly quite sad. I thought Chris Evans was excellent here, by the way, probably the best he's ever been. A-


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I think of all the Pre Avengers movies (Iron Man 2 not withstanding) this is easily the worst, and my least favorite Superhero film this year. However it was still entertaining (A modern day Rocketeer or Phantom with a little more class) It's nice to see a movie finally paid off for Chris Evans, though he's probably the least complex superhero I've ever seen on film (Something I wonder how it'll play off of him as the supposed leader of the Avengers,) and all the supporting players are really great, especially Tucci and Jones. Action and effects were ok.

But some really out of place scenes (Musical Montage was fucking awful and it completely halts the film) and not even Hugo Weaving could make the Red Skull not look ridiculous, He was right to ham it up, but there is only so much I can take, especially since the film tried to be more serious. And the romance is almost completely action movie romance 101. In the end, We all knew he'd be frozen so we know the relationship won't go on and "I'll be fine" line is kind of a lame response to a supposed invested relationship. All in All, where as Thor and TIH felt stand alone, this is an incomplete film, and everything established is already pointless for when Avengers comes out. Also, now bare with me, TIH, Thor, and Iron Man had their non grounded in reality parts, but they still felt like they could be in the real world. Captain America establishes a completely fictional WW2, with ridiculous technology that still hasn't been seen again in the modern world. It works very well as a pulpy serial throwback film, but as a The starting Point of what is now a 6 picture franchise, its out of place.

This is an odd one for me to rate, because enjoyed it overall, but not enough to see again. While I think CA is the weakest piece of the puzzle, I'm still looking forward to the Superhero Smash Brothers.

Iron Man 8/10
The Incredible Hulk 7/10
Thor 7/10
Captain America 6/10
Iron Man 2 6/10

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But some really out of place scenes (Musical Montage was fucking awful and it completely halts the film)

Best scene in the movie.

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I thought the musical montage was pretty great.

If we're ranking Marvel Studios:

Iron Man - 8/10
Captain America - 7.5/10
The Incredible Hulk - 7/10
Thor - 7/10
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1. Captain America
2. The Incredible Hulk
3. Iron Man
4. Thor

5. Iron Man 2

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I think of all the Pre Avengers movies (Iron Man 2 not withstanding) this is easily the worst, and my least favorite Superhero film this year. However it was still entertaining (A modern day Rocketeer or Phantom with a little more class) It's nice to see a movie finally paid off for Chris Evans, though he's probably the least complex superhero I've ever seen on film (Something I wonder how it'll play off of him as the supposed leader of the Avengers,) and all the supporting players are really great, especially Tucci and Jones. Action and effects were ok.

But some really out of place scenes (Musical Montage was fucking awful and it completely halts the film) and not even Hugo Weaving could make the Red Skull not look ridiculous, He was right to ham it up, but there is only so much I can take, especially since the film tried to be more serious. And the romance is almost completely action movie romance 101. In the end, We all knew he'd be frozen so we know the relationship won't go on and "I'll be fine" line is kind of a lame response to a supposed invested relationship. All in All, where as Thor and TIH felt stand alone, this is an incomplete film, and everything established is already pointless for when Avengers comes out. Also, now bare with me, TIH, Thor, and Iron Man had their non grounded in reality parts, but they still felt like they could be in the real world. Captain America establishes a completely fictional WW2, with ridiculous technology that still hasn't been seen again in the modern world. It works very well as a pulpy serial throwback film, but as a The starting Point of what is now a 6 picture franchise, its out of place.

This is an odd one for me to rate, because enjoyed it overall, but not enough to see again. While I think CA is the weakest piece of the puzzle, I'm still looking forward to the Superhero Smash Brothers.

Iron Man 8/10
The Incredible Hulk 7/10
Thor 7/10
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Your calling this the quote "Worst of the MARVEL movies and least favorite superhero" but then go on to say you enjoyed it overall??? :funny: Gun, I think your trying to hard to put this movie down when in fact, I think you enjoyed it more than your willing to admit.. You don't call something "The worst of the bunch and least enjoyable", then say you enjoyed it.. Come on Gun.. And what line did you want him to say concerning the romance angle??? He says "I'll be fine", what did you want the guy to say Gun???

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Its not that hard to really understand is it BKB? As for the "I'll be fine" a lot of you are talking about the awesomeness of the romance, when it seems he'll get over it rather quickly from that line. More of a slap in the face, he could have just said I had a date, and it would have been leagues better. PS, are you going to review the film, or just quote everyone else's and comment?

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Captain America - 8.5/10
Iron Man - 8/10
Thor - 7.5/10
Iron Man 2 - 6.5/10
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