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The Dark Shape
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:56 am Posts: 12119 Location: Adrift in L.A.
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 Re: Green Lantern
Chippy wrote: So what? Then you would've complained that his character was only there for a cheesy Spielberg-style moment where the child is amazed by his uncle's new powers. As opposed to now, where he's there for what reason, exactly?
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Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:22 pm |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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 Re: Green Lantern
As a secondary character. Just like all other secondary characters in every other movie. To do nothing. And provide little to the story.
What about his brother, do you guys have a problem with the 10 seconds of screen time for his brother?
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Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:25 pm |
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The Dark Shape
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:56 am Posts: 12119 Location: Adrift in L.A.
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 Re: Green Lantern
Yes, actually, considering it accomplishes nothing. We don't learn anything about Hal. It does nothing for his "arc." It's nothing but wasted screentime.
Wait, I'm sorry. I'm putting on my "oh, bright colors aren't good enough" overly critical hat on today.
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Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:44 pm |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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 Re: Green Lantern
So in your opinion, which is incorrect btw, every scene in every movie must have a bigger point than just existing?
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Sun Jun 19, 2011 8:15 pm |
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thompsoncory
Rachel McAdams Fan
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:13 am Posts: 14626 Location: LA / NYC
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 Re: Green Lantern
It actually wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it was going to be. It's not godawful, but Green Lantern's biggest offense is that it is just forgettable despite a massive budget and a great cast. Ryan Reynolds was good but does little to differentiate the performance from any other work he's done, Blake Lively is alright in a completely underwritten role, and Mark Strong was also solid. I thought Peter Sarsgaard was awful though. His character made no sense and was completely one-dimensional, and Sarsgaard was so over-the-top that I started to dread every time he'd come onscreen. Tim Robbins and Angela Basset are also bad and, following suit, have underwritten roles. It's really no better or worse than Thor in terms of quality, but I have to give the edge to the former because at least I felt like it told a complete story. This one is just a franchise setup, pure and simple, and with the underwhelming box office and critical reception who knows if a second installment will ever even happen. C/C+
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Sun Jun 19, 2011 8:36 pm |
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Thegun
On autopilot for the summer
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:14 pm Posts: 21895 Location: Walking around somewhere
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 Re: Green Lantern
I really enjoyed it, it is about on par with Thor on the enjoyment level, and I found all the humor to be intentional and funny (Especially Sarsgaard) I thought Reynolds doing a Christian Bale impression in front of Lively was the funniest thing I've seen in a while. Another solid Superhero movie this summer that this time embraces the Camp side of comic book movies. I enjoyed the few action scenes, and the visuals, and also change to dark tone at times. I never felt any real sense of danger, but I liked the villains and would love a sequel.
This is in the Thor, Incredible Hulk territory, and leagues above Hulk, FF, and Spidey 3
B+
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Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:38 pm |
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Jmart
Superman: The Movie
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:47 am Posts: 21230 Location: Massachusetts
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 Re: Green Lantern
Considering what's been said I was expect Green Lantern to be a complete disaster. The footage Loyal posted didn't help matters either. But maybe it was because my expectations were so low, I actually wound up really enjoying it. Does it have it's problems? Oh fuck yes. Lets see... Backstory - If you're going to simply the backstory down to one scene where Hal sees his father explode, don't make it funny. I burst out laughing after the brief hope when his dad begins to climb out of the plane. Cut to kid Hal. Then cut back to the plane AND BLAM! I like Stuart Baird (SUPERMAN!), but the way he chose to edit the scene ruined it. He took what should've been a horrific scene and turned it into a hilarious one. It also didn't help that grownup Hal flashes into this flashback while falling from the sky. Why he flashes back...I dunno? Hector Hammond - I didn't read the comic, but I'm going to assume that they were faithful to the look of his character. As soon as Martin Campbell saw the artwork for the character, or if not then, when Sarsgaard first put on the wig, he should've axed it. I know Hector is supposed to be a nerd, but he's really hard to look at at times throughout the movie. And then once his head explodes to grand proportions...  There's a fine line between making a character evil and making a character look evil. I would've preferred if they had focused on the former instead of the latter. Yellow matter with Hammond - Why did Abin Sur have that yellow stuff in him which causes Hammond to go nuts. I'm sure there's a reasonable explanation, but the film never gives it or it just glosses over it. If Abin Sur had yellow matter, how could he have been possibly selected as a Green Lantern? And if there was a reason, once again the film never provides it. Editing/Runtime - The movie is 104 minutes. Why is there such a need to rush superhero movies lately? Thor and X-Men made the same mistake. Considering my point about the backstory, would another 16 minutes have killed anyone (except Loyal)? Sinestro (for anyone who stayed 30 seconds after the initial ending credits) - Sinestro is good for the entire film, but with a name like Sinestro, it should come as no surprise that he might turn out to be evil. But why does he turn evil? What motivation did he have, especially after giving the grandiose speech at the end? And why does he stumble across the yellow ring? How would one just stumble across that? Why was that so easy? Yet despite those five big problems, I was entertained. I found the action sequences to be above par, and I liked Reynolds and Lively together, though she comes across wooden more times than one. And I'm corny, but I liked how they dealt with Hal's fearlessness (despite it being poorly developed). It's an entertaining popcorn flick, and aside from characters like Superman, Batman and Spider-Man, that's all that I expect from comic book films. *** (B)Oh, and I'm done with 3D. I saw this in 2D and have come to conclusion that like most movies, 3D would not have made one difference in me enjoying this. Unless it's something in IMAX or another Avatar, I'm sticking with 2D.
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Sun Jun 19, 2011 11:12 pm |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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 Re: Green Lantern
The yellow matter in Abin Sur was from when he got injured. It was more of residue. And Sinestro didn't really 'stumble' across the yellow ring, I mean, he had it in his hand when Reynolds confronted the elders.
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Sun Jun 19, 2011 11:41 pm |
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zingy
College Boy Z
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:40 pm Posts: 36662
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 Re: Green Lantern
What's the scene during the credits exactly?
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Sun Jun 19, 2011 11:55 pm |
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David
Pure Phase
Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:33 am Posts: 34865 Location: Maryland
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 Re: Green Lantern
Mark Strong's character puts on the evil ring and his costume turns yellow. More or less suggesting he will be the villain in the hypothetical sequel.
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Jmart
Superman: The Movie
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:47 am Posts: 21230 Location: Massachusetts
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 Re: Green Lantern
Chippy wrote: The yellow matter in Abin Sur was from when he got injured. It was more of residue. And Sinestro didn't really 'stumble' across the yellow ring, I mean, he had it in his hand when Reynolds confronted the elders. Ah, okay. Thanks for reminding. I somehow completely managed to forget the first scene. 
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Thegun
On autopilot for the summer
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:14 pm Posts: 21895 Location: Walking around somewhere
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 Re: Green Lantern
Chippy wrote: The yellow matter in Abin Sur was from when he got injured. It was more of residue. And Sinestro didn't really 'stumble' across the yellow ring, I mean, he had it in his hand when Reynolds confronted the elders. Agreed, and he also is the one that created it, and wanted to use it before Reynolds speech. Perhaps if we get a sequel, he'll have an Anakin/Gollum downfall. Remember it says in the film that the Paralax guy wanted to do only good, but was consumed by the fear. I thought the plot was adequate enough, and not knowing anything I didn't even watch the end credits. But I loved Sarsgaard's look, I thought it was hilarious but intentional and added to his Quasimodo feelings towards his father and Reynolds. The Nephew is an odd one, but the one scene together was pretty good, maybe he had a deleted scene later in the film. Also, the only real scene I thought was bad was the Top Gun ripoff with the father, really felt like it was Hot Shots for a second. It was a fast paced film, but I don't know I somehow found it refreshing to not have all the extra fat scenes in between stuff that happens. Kind of like Green Lantern by Spark Notes
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Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:31 am |
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The Dark Shape
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:56 am Posts: 12119 Location: Adrift in L.A.
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 Re: Green Lantern
Chippy wrote: So in your opinion, which is incorrect btw, every scene in every movie must have a bigger point than just existing? Uh, yes, actually, lest movies just be a string of pointless padded bullshit.
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Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:19 am |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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 Re: Green Lantern
I guarantee every movie ever has one scene that has no point other than being there.
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Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:53 pm |
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The Dark Shape
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:56 am Posts: 12119 Location: Adrift in L.A.
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 Re: Green Lantern
Chippy wrote: I guarantee every movie ever has one scene that has no point other than being there. I'm sure many that you like do. But no good ones.
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Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:26 pm |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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 Re: Green Lantern
Maybe you should pay more attention to the movies you watch.
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Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:39 pm |
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trixster
loyalfromlondon
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:31 pm Posts: 19697 Location: ville-marie
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Chippy telling others to watch movies better is like Grill telling others to argue less.
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Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:33 am |
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Mister Ecks
New Server, Same X
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:07 pm Posts: 28301 Location: ... siiiigh...
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Chippy wrote: She's nice nude. Online. I told you I'm not pervy. I didn't say I was dead.
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Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:16 am |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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trixster wrote: Chippy telling others to watch movies better is like Grill telling others to argue less. Poor trixster. Living in the past, I see.
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Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:27 pm |
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Rick0180
The Incredible Hulk
Joined: Thu May 26, 2011 6:39 pm Posts: 534
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 Re: Green Lantern
As I don't watch her on TV, I forgot that was Blake Lively. Just thought she was sexy.
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Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:31 pm |
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The Dark Shape
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:56 am Posts: 12119 Location: Adrift in L.A.
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Chippy wrote: Maybe you should pay more attention to the movies you watch. I do pay attention to the movies I watch. That seems to be the difference between us.
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Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:17 pm |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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 Re: Green Lantern
ooo!!!
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Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:20 pm |
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Bradley Witherberry
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Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:13 pm Posts: 15197 Location: Planet Xatar
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 Re: Green Lantern
Green Lantern had a sustained "serious" tone that serves it well.
It is an example of long form camp - - it's deadpan alright, but not the more common mile-a-minute deadpan camp, it's one entire movie-length "moment".
Long form camp, which once upon a time was quite fashionable, returns in Green Lantern set in a groovy sci-fi festival of psychedelia - - you can't say they didn't go all out on the whole green thing!
Unfortunately, the story bogs down for a while at the beginning of the second half, but danged if it's giddily straight-faced charm don't carry ya right on thru!
Not only that, but I think that this just might be the role that Ryan Reynolds was born to play. I've never been a huge fan of his plasticity, however here he just seems perfect.
...and I bet the sequel is even better!
15 out of 5.
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Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:20 am |
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STEVE ROGERS
The Greatest Avenger EVER
Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2004 4:02 am Posts: 18501
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Bradley Witherberry wrote: Green Lantern had a sustained "serious" tone that serves it well.
It is an example of long form camp - - it's deadpan alright, but not the more common mile-a-minute deadpan camp, it's one entire movie-length "moment".
Long form camp, which once upon a time was quite fashionable, returns in Green Lantern set in a groovy sci-fi festival of psychedelia - - you can't say they didn't go all out on the whole green thing!
Unfortunately, the story bogs down for a while at the beginning of the second half, but danged if it's giddily straight-faced charm don't carry ya right on thru!
Not only that, but I think that this just might be the role that Ryan Reynolds was born to play. I've never been a huge fan of his plasticity, however here he just seems perfect.
...and I bet the sequel is even better!
15 out of 5. I'll bet there is no sequel after how piss poor this has performed and no JLA either cause WB and DC Entertainment suck and they'll never beat MARVEL at anything.. Sure they have BATMAN but then what?? 
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Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:47 am |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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 Re: Green Lantern
There will be a sequel.
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Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:32 pm |
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