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Flava'd vs The World
The Kramer
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 23762 Location: Classified
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Re: Friday Number: LOLZ GG NETFLIX WINS
The underperformance was foretold, but falling $6M from the late-night estimates is ridiculous. I really don't get how the Friday night crowd was so weak. The low previews at least had the excuse of competing with NFL Game #1.
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Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:32 am |
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Corpse
Don't Dream It, Be It
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:45 pm Posts: 37152 Location: The Graveyard
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Re: Friday Number: LOLZ GG NETFLIX WINS
It always felt like this was coming out too soon to me. There wasn't enough time between films to make me too interested in what happens to our grown up cast. I was a big fan of the first film, but I really don't have urge to see this one right now. I'll check it out in theaters in a couple weeks.
I know it's generally wise to capitalize on popular hits ASAP in today's market before the audience's attention shifts elsewhere, but if that was the plan, they probably should have released it even earlier because said audience's attention has already shifted it seems.
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Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:44 am |
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Dil
Forum General
Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:48 pm Posts: 8942 Location: Houston, Texas
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Re: Friday Number: LOLZ GG NETFLIX WINS
I mean a high 30's opening and a possible $80-$90M OW is still a pretty great result for a R-rated horror film, but for a sequel to one of the biggest horror films of all-time I can see why it would look so underwhelming. The hype for it never felt like it was really there though like it was for the first one.
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Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:50 am |
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mark66
Extraordinary
Joined: Thu Dec 15, 2005 2:41 pm Posts: 13041 Location: Augsburg (2,038 years young)
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Re: Friday Number: LOLZ GG NETFLIX WINS
1 - It: Chapter Two WB (NL) $37,400,000 - - 4,570 $8,184 $37,400,000 12 1 Angel has Fallen LGF $1,725,000 +153% -40% 3,229 $534 $49,185,501 15 3 2 Good Boys Uni. $1,570,000 +194% -33% 3,193 $492 $63,029,700 22 4 3 Overcomer Affirm $1,025,000 +165% -27% 2,153 $476 $21,981,163 15 5 4 The Lion King (2019) BV $990,000 +206% -36% 2,610 $379 $525,903,439 50 6 5 Fast & Furious Presents: Hobbs & Shaw Uni. $940,000 +195% -35% 2,299 $409 $161,472,145 36 7 7 Ready or Not FoxS $684,000 +144% -56% 2,350 $291 $24,085,688 17 8 9 The Peanut Butter Falcon RAtt. $630,000 +195% -15% 1,310 $481 $10,636,259 29 9 8 Once Upon a Time in Hollywood Sony $615,000 +135% -38% 1,402 $439 $132,817,282 43 10 10 Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark LGF $593,000 +273% -50% 2,101 $282 $60,418,734 29 https://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/cha ... ESC&p=.htm
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Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:26 am |
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publicenemy#1
Extraordinary
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:25 am Posts: 18872 Location: San Diego
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Re: Friday Number: LOLZ GG NETFLIX WINS
Well damn.
It's still going to make a huge profit but a 27% drop in OW isn't good. The first's legs with a 90m opening would be just under 240m.
One positive for WB is I think this opens the door for Joker to do huge business.
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Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:51 am |
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i.hope
Defeats all expectations
Joined: Fri May 26, 2006 5:04 pm Posts: 6665
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Re: Friday Number: LOLZ GG NETFLIX WINS
Corpse wrote: .
I know it's generally wise to capitalize on popular hits ASAP in today's market before the audience's attention shifts elsewhere, but if that was the plan, they probably should have released it even earlier because said audience's attention has already shifted it seems. I agree on this. They should have released this a year after Chapter 1, not 2 years. Also, they should have re-released Chapter 1 on Labor Day weekend or some time earlier to build up buzz.
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Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:42 pm |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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Re: Friday Number: LOLZ GG NETFLIX WINS
Well that's a bummer
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Sat Sep 07, 2019 1:07 pm |
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publicenemy#1
Extraordinary
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:25 am Posts: 18872 Location: San Diego
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Re: Friday Number: LOLZ GG NETFLIX WINS
Unless it collapses [85m opening and shitty legs] we will have our first 200m grosser of this year. Might be the only one if Joker and Jumanji do 300m+.
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Sat Sep 07, 2019 1:18 pm |
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Excel
Superfreak
Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:54 am Posts: 21880 Location: Places
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Re: Friday Number: LOLZ GG NETFLIX WINS
I mean....if you had told me 2 1/2 years ago that IT 2 would open to $90m and top $200m, I would have said GTFO
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Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:23 pm |
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DP07
Homo Dperious
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 14474 Location: Everywhere
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Re: Friday Number: LOLZ GG NETFLIX WINS
Ring 2 all over again.
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Sat Sep 07, 2019 4:04 pm |
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Proud Ryu
Deshi Basara
Joined: Thu Sep 27, 2007 3:36 pm Posts: 5322 Location: The Interstice
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Re: Friday Number: LOLZ GG NETFLIX WINS
The backlash against sequels continues.
But this was not marketed worth a shit, whereas the first one was *everywhere* and really built up into an event. This feels like a money grab and afterthought, even though anyone who knows the story knew it was always coming.
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Sat Sep 07, 2019 4:11 pm |
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DP07
Homo Dperious
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 14474 Location: Everywhere
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Re: Friday Number: LOLZ GG NETFLIX WINS
I don’t know the story, but I knew chapter one didn’t have a believable ‘ending’.
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Sat Sep 07, 2019 4:16 pm |
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lilmac
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Joined: Wed May 25, 2005 12:07 am Posts: 3129
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Re: Friday Number: LOLZ GG NETFLIX WINS
Budget of $60-$70m. It’ll do just fine and there’s no worry they’ll overdo it with a third film.
Although, Hollywood can definitely overextend itself by translating IT’s success into open season on King adaptations.
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Sat Sep 07, 2019 6:37 pm |
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Thegun
On autopilot for the summer
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:14 pm Posts: 21634 Location: Walking around somewhere
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Re: Friday Number: LOLZ GG NETFLIX WINS
Well didn't that Elba film open afterwards. King is always a draw,it really depends on the marketing and the film. For every Shawshank, Green Mile, there is always a Dark half, Cujo.
Sleep will be most like another mid tier for him.
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Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:08 pm |
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Barrabás
llegó a la casa vía marítima
Joined: Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:53 pm Posts: 6138 Location: la gran casa de la esquina
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Re: Friday Number: LOLZ GG NETFLIX WINS
lilmac wrote: Budget of $60-$70m. It’ll do just fine and there’s no worry they’ll overdo it with a third film.
Although, Hollywood can definitely overextend itself by translating IT’s success into open season on King adaptations. Even though this is a decline from the first film, I doubt this will be the last we see of the franchise. It: 1740 or something with Pennywise terrorizing pilgrims will probably happen.
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Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:28 am |
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Flava'd vs The World
The Kramer
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 23762 Location: Classified
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Re: Friday Number: LOLZ GG NETFLIX WINS
$33M Sat. If that’s true It’s a pretty good recovery and It will probably land around $95M.
When the real number is $6M less... Let’s say $84M
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Sun Sep 08, 2019 1:37 am |
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O
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Joined: Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:53 pm Posts: 11514
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Re: Friday Number: LOLZ GG NETFLIX WINS
I don't think this is as bad as people are making IT.
IT reached pop culture phenom level. Was impossible to capture that again.
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Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:27 am |
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Magic Mike
Wallflower
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 4:53 am Posts: 34876 Location: Minnesota
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Re: Friday Number: LOLZ GG NETFLIX WINS
Barrabás wrote: lilmac wrote: Budget of $60-$70m. It’ll do just fine and there’s no worry they’ll overdo it with a third film.
Although, Hollywood can definitely overextend itself by translating IT’s success into open season on King adaptations. Even though this is a decline from the first film, I doubt this will be the last we see of the franchise. It: 1740 or something with Pennywise terrorizing pilgrims will probably happen. I haven't seen Chapter 2 yet but they could definitely probably do a prequel. This series is too huge for them not to try and milk it.
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Sun Sep 08, 2019 3:50 am |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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Re: Friday Number: LOLZ GG NETFLIX WINS
$91 mil OW is a recovery from Friday. We'll see if it holds.
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Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:22 am |
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Jonathan
Begging Naked
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:07 pm Posts: 14737 Location: The Present (Duh)
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Re: Friday Number: LOLZ GG NETFLIX WINS
Magnus wrote: It's not much of a recovery. It's the same IM that the first one had (and The Nun last year) and the first one dealt with a major hurricane in Florida over the weekend that deflated it a tad.
I think all indicators have this projecting out to a 200m-215m finish. Which is objectively a disappointment even if it's going to be a fairly big commercial success.
If they did try to do another film (likely prequel), I imagine it would drop off to sub-150m, though that still may be enough to greenlight one if they can a sub-60m budget for it. I said this in a writeup for AwardsWatch ( plug), but I think It will be helped a lot by the complete and utter lack of horror competition. Even if it drops quickly, I imagine a lot of theaters will hold onto it through October as the only spooky option for moviegoers outside of, like, The Addams Family. And the B+ from Cinemascore indicates to me that WOM among the masses is fine, even if reviews were weaker.
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Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:58 pm |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
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Re: Friday Number: LOLZ GG NETFLIX WINS
This is gonna have a fine multiple. I think it has a lot of general audience appeal, moreso than typical horror. I think the mild underperforming is due to it just not being a rush movie.
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Sun Sep 08, 2019 3:32 pm |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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Re: Friday Number: LOLZ GG NETFLIX WINS
Magnus wrote: It's not much of a recovery. It's the same IM that the first one had (and The Nun last year) and the first one dealt with a major hurricane in Florida over the weekend that deflated it a tad.
I think all indicators have this projecting out to a 200m-215m finish. Which is objectively a disappointment even if it's going to be a fairly big commercial success.
If they did try to do another film (likely prequel), I imagine it would drop off to sub-150m, though that still may be enough to greenlight one if they can a sub-60m budget for it. Which would be a recovery.
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