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Author:  publicenemy#1 [ Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Next franchise to have a $200m opener?

So far the only franchises that have had a $200m opener is MCU, Star Wars and Jurassic World.

In the next few years, what other franchises do you think can generate a $200m opener?

Some candidates:
Frozen 2 [think this will happen actually]
DC [WW1984 is a long shot, The Batman if positive hype around it maybe]
Avatar [probably not but who knows]

Author:  Jiffy [ Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:09 pm ]
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Presumably TLK.

Author:  Chippy [ Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:11 pm ]
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Frozen 2 definitely could. I think WW84 is better than a long shot. It had some of the best WOM of any CBM. Though that may depend on if Birds of Prey is any good. DC can't keep making average movies and expect huge BO.

I'd say no to Avatar 2-whatever.

Incredibles 2 couldn't do it, so I don't see a Pixar film doing it.

Maybe if they did another Harry Potter, with the original cast. Depending on the damage Fantastic Beasts does to the brand.

Batman could definitely do it. But that's probably like 40/60 right now.

Author:  zwackerm [ Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:11 pm ]
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Jiffy wrote:
Presumably TLK.


This definitely has a chance, but I definitely feel a good deal of indifference toward the project.

Author:  Flava'd vs The World [ Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:12 pm ]
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I think either Frozen or Lion King will do it, but not both. Would be surprised by anything next year, unless the Nolan is doing Dark Knight 4 or Harry Potter 9. Pokemon 2 is a candidate for 2022 or whenever.

Author:  Chippy [ Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:34 pm ]
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Oh definitely TLK. Completely forgot about that.

Author:  Shack [ Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:08 pm ]
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If Frozen opens to 200 mil it's gunning for The Force Awakens

Author:  BJ [ Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:19 pm ]
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Shack wrote:
If Frozen opens to 200 mil it's gunning for The Force Awakens

Indeed

Author:  publicenemy#1 [ Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:44 pm ]
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Idk about Lion King. Think $150m will happen but idk.

Cursed Child with the original HP cast would open $225m+.

Author:  Chippy [ Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:07 pm ]
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Magnus wrote:
If not Lion King then Batman.


VOTE, MAGNUS

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Author:  Algren [ Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:06 pm ]
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None of the films in this thread so far will make $200m+ OW.

Author:  Barrabás [ Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:14 pm ]
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Frozen and Avatar are the only ones with a realistic shot.

Also, Star Wars is never seeing $200m OW again. That ship has sailed, as commanded by Kathleen Kennedy and her Komissars.

Author:  Algren [ Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:18 pm ]
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Nah. Avatar is not loved or anticipated on any level like Avengers and Star Wars. And Frozen only appeals to girls.

Author:  BJ [ Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:49 pm ]
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Barrabás wrote:
Frozen and Avatar are the only ones with a realistic shot.

Also, Star Wars is never seeing $200m OW again. That ship has sailed, as commanded by Kathleen Kennedy and her Komissars.

False, 250m+ for EP9 easily.

Author:  MadGez [ Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:16 am ]
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I still think Ep 9 will open close to Ep 8. It wont fall under $200m.

Author:  Rev [ Fri Apr 26, 2019 7:56 am ]
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The Lion King (215m) will be the next one obviously

Author:  BJ [ Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:13 am ]
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Rev wrote:
The Lion King (215m) will be the next one obviously

:thumbsup:

Author:  doctorwho [ Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:07 pm ]
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Algren wrote:
Nah. Avatar is not loved or anticipated on any level like Avengers and Star Wars. And Frozen only appeals to girls.



Frozen the billion dollar highest grossing film of 2013 over the likes of IRON MAN 3 WW would never have achieved it's success if it 'only' solely appealed to girls. A $200 million opening is only unlikely because, personally, I can't see any animated film achieving that (though if one could prove me wrong it's Frozen 2).

Author:  doctorwho [ Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:09 pm ]
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Barrabás wrote:
Frozen and Avatar are the only ones with a realistic shot.

Also, Star Wars is never seeing $200m OW again. That ship has sailed, as commanded by Kathleen Kennedy and her Komissars.


The general public must never be confused with certain whiny parts of the internet/reddit. If the reviews are strong, again, it will open over $200 million OW.

Author:  Excel [ Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:53 pm ]
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If they cross over Phoenix Joker w/ Reeves Batman, the will open bonkers

Author:  Thegun [ Fri Apr 26, 2019 3:44 pm ]
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I still give it to Toy Story 4. Needs about a 9% bump on TI2 to get there. It's literally the only franchise that has consistently increased domestically, and been a critical darling for nearly 25 years now.

Also TLK isn't really part of a franchise. So it doesn't really count. But as a film I'd say it's very likely too.

Author:  zwackerm [ Fri Apr 26, 2019 6:13 pm ]
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Toy Story 4 will open under 60m before it opens to 200m.

Author:  Barrabás [ Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:25 pm ]
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doctorwho wrote:
Barrabás wrote:
Frozen and Avatar are the only ones with a realistic shot.

Also, Star Wars is never seeing $200m OW again. That ship has sailed, as commanded by Kathleen Kennedy and her Komissars.


The general public must never be confused with certain whiny parts of the internet/reddit. If the reviews are strong, again, it will open over $200 million OW.


I have loved Star Wars since I was 4 years old and unlike the dark corners of Reddit I understand that commercial success for these films is integral to future instalments and spin offs, so I'd be ok with the compromise between Kathleen's questionable creative decisions and successful trilogy that leads to more interesting films....

but I think the brand is severely damaged after the last two films. It's not the mega event it once was. I hope to be proven wrong.

Author:  Barrabás [ Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:26 pm ]
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Thegun wrote:
I still give it to Toy Story 4. Needs about a 9% bump on TI2 to get there. It's literally the only franchise that has consistently increased domestically, and been a critical darling for nearly 25 years now.

Also TLK isn't really part of a franchise. So it doesn't really count. But as a film I'd say it's very likely too.


Wouldn't that kind of bump have happened with Toy Story 3? I don't think it's in the franchise, too many sequels at this point.

Author:  Thegun [ Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:22 am ]
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Well if we're talking franchises, it's the only real one that has any type of chance. Each film has about an 11% increase in total over the last adjusted, Which would put Toy Story 4 at about 535 million, and using BATB that would put it around 188 opening. I think if the marketing really steps up over the next two months it could definitely sway higher and reach the point. If not it'll be SW, then who knows.

It would have been Spiderman if not for the Tuesday opening. That'll easily see the Iron Man 3 type bump now.

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