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Chippy wrote:

Moviebuf wrote:

Saying TLJ is better than ESB is blasphemy.

Calling Rey a Mary Sue has nothing to do with gender. If she was a male doing the exact same thing he would be a Gary Stu.

She is a Mary Sue because she falls into the categorical definition of a Mary Sue.

Mary Sue - a type of female character who is depicted as unrealistically lacking in flaws or weaknesses.

Rey, wins a lightsaber battle against a trained Sith/Jedi the first time she wields it. Rey is a better pilot than Han Solo of Millennium Falcon almost immediately. Rey literally talks down ("there is still good in him" Luke Skywalker (in reference to the most evil person in the Galaxy Darth Vader))

She is 100% unequivocally a Mary Sue.

And with that said, I love her and her character. But jeez...there is no arguing that.

Y'all are literally the dumbest people alive.
1. She didn't "win" the lightsaber. At best it was a draw, against a severely wounded Kylo Ren.
2. She's not a better pilot. Just showing her flying the falcon doesn't make her a better pilot.
3. She's trying to reason with him.

And 100000% bullshit on if she was a dude this would still be happening. Nobody said a fucking word about Luke Skywalker, a fucking farmer, being the greatest Jedi in the galaxy.

Chippy wrote:

Moviebuf wrote:

Chippy wrote:

No, it's not bad writing. Because that's what those characters would've done at that time. Sorry you're a chud and just now realizing it.

Sorry, you are wrong. It is horrendous writing.

Why would the captain of a ship not tell her whole crew her plan to save them when her best pilot is literally committing mutiny because he thinks the lack of a plan is going to cost them all their lives. Your explanation is that everyone would captain this way? Interesting.

I don't even want to get into the fact that the entire movie didn't even matter until we found out said Captain had a plan all along. The casino scene could have been written out of the movie and had ZERO effect on the plot. That is a tell tale sign of bad writing.

WHY would the brand new captain, in a time of crisis, tell her recently demoted/reprimanded fighter pilot, who has NOTHING to do with this plan, what the plan is? That makes no logical sense. Y'all just are rooting for a dickhead because he's hot, and a dude.

Sorry you're fucking bitter as shit that your male hormones couldn't jerk off the whole movie to Luke with his shirt off.

Gamaur wrote:

Chippy wrote:

Y'all are literally the dumbest people alive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0biqMZrxJ0

Moviebuf wrote:

Why the need to name call

1) She clearly won that fight. And of course that doesn't even include the overwhelming Kylo Ren's mind manipulation techniques and reading his mind instead on first try. There is no explaining around this one. This is clearly chalked up to Mary Sue gifts
2) Her being able to climb into the Millennium Falcon and immediately be able to fly it in a way that surprises Han falls right into Mary Sue
3) Yes...Rey is wiser than Luke freaking Skywalker...that is as Mary Sueish as it gets.

"And 100000% bullshit on if she was a dude this would still be happening. Nobody said a fucking word about Luke Skywalker, a fucking farmer, being the greatest Jedi in the galaxy."

Luke has story build up. In a New Hope, he has ONE major moment. That is blowing up the Death Star. The entire movie up to this point is explaining the force and how Luke is strong in it. It comes to fruition at the end. Up to that point there really isn't anything that is "omg how did he do that," like Rey is

In Empire Luke loses in embarrassing fashion to Vader, gets mauled by a Wampa and fails like 3 tests from Yoda (initial patience meeting, vs Vader in the cave, lifting x-wing), and is shown training hard to gain the powers he had

In Return, is the first one where he shows some Gary Stu features, but at that point they have explained how he has become a Jedi...with you know...character development.

Rey is just gifted with power. There is no explanation for why she is a good pilot. There is no explanation for why she is a Jedi class lightsaber duelist. She is just given what she needs in the moment for story telling purposes...that is called being a Mary Sue.

I really don't think there is an argument here.

Moviebuf wrote:

The question is why not. He is literally committing mutiny to keep you from enacting your plan. At that point you say, "Look, I didn't tell you but..." You don't continue to let him ruin your plans just because. There is NOTHING to gain from keeping it secret.

The 2nd part is just utter rubbish.

Luke didn't match his character that we knew at all. Luke literally saw good in Darth Vader, a man who had murdered uncountable innocents. Yet he is going to try and kill his nephew because of a vision when he was his master and knew he hadn't committed any crime? Puh-lease. It is completely made up plot nonsense that came out of no where. Horrendous writing.

Don't even get me started on one of the most anti-climactic villains ever in how he dealt with Snoke.

Part of writing for an established franchise is you don't get to start fresh with characters. You have to go off of the characters established personalities. In Last Jedi he just made it up as he went.

The movie had amazing visuals, and Rey/Kylo was indeed a lot of fun. But the story was absolutely horrendous on so many levels.

Chippy wrote:

Moviebuf wrote:

1. She clearly didn't. Good lord. Use your god damned eyes. Also, he did read her mind, but she's clearly force capable, which he wasn't expecting.
2. Just because she can FLY A SPACESHIP doesn't imply she's a mary sue.
3. Being hopeful does not = being wiser. My god

So you're saying being able to use a lightsaber decently is more mary sue than Luke, a farmer, being able to expertly pilot an advanced spaceship and shoot through a tiny window AND escape before it blows up?

Rey literally fails every test Luke puts her through. And really never has the BREAKTHROUGH moment that Luke got.

Just fucking admit you hate women. It's ok.

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Ahh yes, the guy who is willing to commit mutiny against you! OK NOW I'll tell you the plan! You seem level headed! Fuck no. I'd lock his ass up.

Quote:

They literally told us he had a MOMENT of weakness, and remembered having faith in his father, but that moment was all it took. Completely plausible character development over the course of 20-30 years. You do realize people grow up, right?

Rev wrote:

You guys arguing is making Palpatine stronger & stronger. STOP IT! or we will all die.

Price wrote:

Rev wrote:

You guys arguing is making Palpatine stronger & stronger. STOP IT! or we will all die.

Good...Good...Let the hate flow through you.

nghtvsn wrote:

Only in some alternate reality would anyone even think Kylo was NOT defeated and were it not for a convenient crack in the planet she might have ended him right then and there but of course JJ couldn't let that happen.

"did rey beat kylo" in google gives you these search results. Pretty clear.

how did rey beat kylo ren
how did rey beat kylo
how did rey beat kylo reddit
why did rey beat kylo ren so easily
how does rey beat kylo ren

Author:	Chippy [ Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:28 pm ]
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Poe was promoted because he showed the slight ability to change on Crait, and then was literally one of the only options because of the amount of deaths. I'm not trying to convince you, you all have clearly made up your minds.

Author:	Flava'd vs The World [ Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:38 pm ]
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Yeahhh Poe got promoted because everyone else is dead. Admiral Hoto and Cantoblight are both there to hammer down the theme of the movie - everyone lives in a shitty grey world, where these shitty people are profiting off both the empire and rebel alliance (Del Toro helps the heroes accomplish their mission and then betrays them anyways) and most importantly, heroes fuck up too. That's crucial to the deconstruction of the Jedi and Sith orders that is the key to the A-plot of the movie - the love story between Rey and Kylo. Now if you have no interest in that type of story, and feel like its been shoved down your throat in what should have been a rollicking space adventure - then sure, complaints are justified. But to say that questionable story decisions are the primary reason for the backlash is incorrect. It is incels who feel their childhood was taken away from them by the mean progressives with their empowered girls and coloreds. And no, I don't think of any of you that way. I remember most of you originally liked the movie a lot and this is your version of a backlash to the backlash to the backlash,

Author:	Jiffy [ Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:39 pm ]
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I enjoy TLJ more than any SW film since ESB/ROTJ. Shame half of the fanboys reviled it so much.

Author:	Moviebuf [ Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:04 pm ]
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Chippy wrote: Moviebuf wrote: Saying TLJ is better than ESB is blasphemy. Calling Rey a Mary Sue has nothing to do with gender. If she was a male doing the exact same thing he would be a Gary Stu. She is a Mary Sue because she falls into the categorical definition of a Mary Sue. Mary Sue - a type of female character who is depicted as unrealistically lacking in flaws or weaknesses. Rey, wins a lightsaber battle against a trained Sith/Jedi the first time she wields it. Rey is a better pilot than Han Solo of Millennium Falcon almost immediately. Rey literally talks down ("there is still good in him" Luke Skywalker (in reference to the most evil person in the Galaxy Darth Vader)) She is 100% unequivocally a Mary Sue. And with that said, I love her and her character. But jeez...there is no arguing that. Y'all are literally the dumbest people alive. 1. She didn't "win" the lightsaber. At best it was a draw, against a severely wounded Kylo Ren. 2. She's not a better pilot. Just showing her flying the falcon doesn't make her a better pilot. 3. She's trying to reason with him. And 100000% bullshit on if she was a dude this would still be happening. Nobody said a fucking word about Luke Skywalker, a fucking farmer, being the greatest Jedi in the galaxy. Why the need to name call 1) She clearly won that fight. And of course that doesn't even include the overwhelming Kylo Ren's mind manipulation techniques and reading his mind instead on first try. There is no explaining around this one. This is clearly chalked up to Mary Sue gifts 2) Her being able to climb into the Millennium Falcon and immediately be able to fly it in a way that surprises Han falls right into Mary Sue 3) Yes...Rey is wiser than Luke freaking Skywalker...that is as Mary Sueish as it gets. "And 100000% bullshit on if she was a dude this would still be happening. Nobody said a fucking word about Luke Skywalker, a fucking farmer, being the greatest Jedi in the galaxy." Luke has story build up. In a New Hope, he has ONE major moment. That is blowing up the Death Star. The entire movie up to this point is explaining the force and how Luke is strong in it. It comes to fruition at the end. Up to that point there really isn't anything that is "omg how did he do that," like Rey is In Empire Luke loses in embarrassing fashion to Vader, gets mauled by a Wampa and fails like 3 tests from Yoda (initial patience meeting, vs Vader in the cave, lifting x-wing), and is shown training hard to gain the powers he had In Return, is the first one where he shows some Gary Stu features, but at that point they have explained how he has become a Jedi...with you know...character development. Rey is just gifted with power. There is no explanation for why she is a good pilot. There is no explanation for why she is a Jedi class lightsaber duelist. She is just given what she needs in the moment for story telling purposes...that is called being a Mary Sue. I really don't think there is an argument here.

Author:	Moviebuf [ Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:12 pm ]
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Chippy wrote: Moviebuf wrote: Chippy wrote: No, it's not bad writing. Because that's what those characters would've done at that time. Sorry you're a chud and just now realizing it. Sorry, you are wrong. It is horrendous writing. Why would the captain of a ship not tell her whole crew her plan to save them when her best pilot is literally committing mutiny because he thinks the lack of a plan is going to cost them all their lives. Your explanation is that everyone would captain this way? Interesting. I don't even want to get into the fact that the entire movie didn't even matter until we found out said Captain had a plan all along. The casino scene could have been written out of the movie and had ZERO effect on the plot. That is a tell tale sign of bad writing. WHY would the brand new captain, in a time of crisis, tell her recently demoted/reprimanded fighter pilot, who has NOTHING to do with this plan, what the plan is? That makes no logical sense. Y'all just are rooting for a dickhead because he's hot, and a dude. Sorry you're fucking bitter as shit that your male hormones couldn't jerk off the whole movie to Luke with his shirt off. The question is why not. He is literally committing mutiny to keep you from enacting your plan. At that point you say, "Look, I didn't tell you but..." You don't continue to let him ruin your plans just because. There is NOTHING to gain from keeping it secret. The 2nd part is just utter rubbish. Luke didn't match his character that we knew at all. Luke literally saw good in Darth Vader, a man who had murdered uncountable innocents. Yet he is going to try and kill his nephew because of a vision when he was his master and knew he hadn't committed any crime? Puh-lease. It is completely made up plot nonsense that came out of no where. Horrendous writing. Don't even get me started on one of the most anti-climactic villains ever in how he dealt with Snoke. Part of writing for an established franchise is you don't get to start fresh with characters. You have to go off of the characters established personalities. In Last Jedi he just made it up as he went. The movie had amazing visuals, and Rey/Kylo was indeed a lot of fun. But the story was absolutely horrendous on so many levels.

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Author:	Chippy [ Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:29 am ]
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Gamaur wrote: Chippy wrote: Y'all are literally the dumbest people alive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0biqMZrxJ0 Just absolutely awful, awful editing. Did you edit that yourself?

Author:	Chippy [ Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:34 am ]
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Moviebuf wrote: Why the need to name call 1) She clearly won that fight. And of course that doesn't even include the overwhelming Kylo Ren's mind manipulation techniques and reading his mind instead on first try. There is no explaining around this one. This is clearly chalked up to Mary Sue gifts 2) Her being able to climb into the Millennium Falcon and immediately be able to fly it in a way that surprises Han falls right into Mary Sue 3) Yes...Rey is wiser than Luke freaking Skywalker...that is as Mary Sueish as it gets. "And 100000% bullshit on if she was a dude this would still be happening. Nobody said a fucking word about Luke Skywalker, a fucking farmer, being the greatest Jedi in the galaxy." Luke has story build up. In a New Hope, he has ONE major moment. That is blowing up the Death Star. The entire movie up to this point is explaining the force and how Luke is strong in it. It comes to fruition at the end. Up to that point there really isn't anything that is "omg how did he do that," like Rey is In Empire Luke loses in embarrassing fashion to Vader, gets mauled by a Wampa and fails like 3 tests from Yoda (initial patience meeting, vs Vader in the cave, lifting x-wing), and is shown training hard to gain the powers he had In Return, is the first one where he shows some Gary Stu features, but at that point they have explained how he has become a Jedi...with you know...character development. Rey is just gifted with power. There is no explanation for why she is a good pilot. There is no explanation for why she is a Jedi class lightsaber duelist. She is just given what she needs in the moment for story telling purposes...that is called being a Mary Sue. I really don't think there is an argument here. 1. She clearly didn't. Good lord. Use your god damned eyes. Also, he did read her mind, but she's clearly force capable, which he wasn't expecting. 2. Just because she can FLY A SPACESHIP doesn't imply she's a mary sue. 3. Being hopeful does not = being wiser. My god So you're saying being able to use a lightsaber decently is more mary sue than Luke, a farmer, being able to expertly pilot an advanced spaceship and shoot through a tiny window AND escape before it blows up? Rey literally fails every test Luke puts her through. And really never has the BREAKTHROUGH moment that Luke got. Just fucking admit you hate women. It's ok.

Author:	Chippy [ Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:37 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Star Wars - Episode IX predictions (12/20/2019)
Moviebuf wrote: The question is why not. He is literally committing mutiny to keep you from enacting your plan. At that point you say, "Look, I didn't tell you but..." You don't continue to let him ruin your plans just because. There is NOTHING to gain from keeping it secret. The 2nd part is just utter rubbish. Luke didn't match his character that we knew at all. Luke literally saw good in Darth Vader, a man who had murdered uncountable innocents. Yet he is going to try and kill his nephew because of a vision when he was his master and knew he hadn't committed any crime? Puh-lease. It is completely made up plot nonsense that came out of no where. Horrendous writing. Don't even get me started on one of the most anti-climactic villains ever in how he dealt with Snoke. Part of writing for an established franchise is you don't get to start fresh with characters. You have to go off of the characters established personalities. In Last Jedi he just made it up as he went. The movie had amazing visuals, and Rey/Kylo was indeed a lot of fun. But the story was absolutely horrendous on so many levels. Ahh yes, the guy who is willing to commit mutiny against you! OK NOW I'll tell you the plan! You seem level headed! Fuck no. I'd lock his ass up. They literally told us he had a MOMENT of weakness, and remembered having faith in his father, but that moment was all it took. Completely plausible character development over the course of 20-30 years. You do realize people grow up, right? Ahh yes, get mad about Snoke. That's original. Again, the movie takes place DECADES after the original. EVERYONE should have a slightly different personality.

Author:	Chippy [ Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:36 am ]
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I mean, if you wanted to make a point, you're not doing a very good job of it.

Author:	Chippy [ Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:33 am ]
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Honestly, I mean this with my whole heart, go fuck yourself. Also, Mark Hamill is hardly a judge of the quality of writing, and Star Wars has hardly ever been a beacon of good writing. Hamill is probably rightfully annoyed that JJ used him for a 10 second shot, and then he gets killed off. He's said multiple times he thinks Luke should have reunited with Han and Leia. Well, Rian gave him a perfect fucking reunion with Leia. And Han is dead.

Author:	Flava'd vs The World [ Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:59 am ]
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Ya’ll are a little too fired up here and debating the story is pointless. Every movie has a little bit of bad writing, some more than others, but usually badly written flicks are tossed aside and forgotten about, like Solo for instance. Yet The Last Jedi, along with Captain Marvel and Ghostbusters, just really seems to offend certain people at the core and I just don’t believe that all comes from anywhere good. Once again, disliking these movies is fine. Saying they ruin Hollywood is different, which nobody here does. To the other point, despite having their lives ruined by these films, the incels are just gonna keep coming back. That’s why it doesn’t really matter. Really, their reaction hurt the franchise more than anything else, since its now back to being a Nerd’s Club type of franchise instead of Something For Everybody, like Force Awakens and the Marvel U.

Author:	Chippy [ Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:23 pm ]
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Solo is fine and enjoyable. It didn't deserve it's low gross.

Author:	Moviebuf [ Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:07 am ]
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Chippy wrote: Moviebuf wrote: Why the need to name call 1) She clearly won that fight. And of course that doesn't even include the overwhelming Kylo Ren's mind manipulation techniques and reading his mind instead on first try. There is no explaining around this one. This is clearly chalked up to Mary Sue gifts 2) Her being able to climb into the Millennium Falcon and immediately be able to fly it in a way that surprises Han falls right into Mary Sue 3) Yes...Rey is wiser than Luke freaking Skywalker...that is as Mary Sueish as it gets. "And 100000% bullshit on if she was a dude this would still be happening. Nobody said a fucking word about Luke Skywalker, a fucking farmer, being the greatest Jedi in the galaxy." Luke has story build up. In a New Hope, he has ONE major moment. That is blowing up the Death Star. The entire movie up to this point is explaining the force and how Luke is strong in it. It comes to fruition at the end. Up to that point there really isn't anything that is "omg how did he do that," like Rey is In Empire Luke loses in embarrassing fashion to Vader, gets mauled by a Wampa and fails like 3 tests from Yoda (initial patience meeting, vs Vader in the cave, lifting x-wing), and is shown training hard to gain the powers he had In Return, is the first one where he shows some Gary Stu features, but at that point they have explained how he has become a Jedi...with you know...character development. Rey is just gifted with power. There is no explanation for why she is a good pilot. There is no explanation for why she is a Jedi class lightsaber duelist. She is just given what she needs in the moment for story telling purposes...that is called being a Mary Sue. I really don't think there is an argument here. 1. She clearly didn't. Good lord. Use your god damned eyes. Also, he did read her mind, but she's clearly force capable, which he wasn't expecting. 2. Just because she can FLY A SPACESHIP doesn't imply she's a mary sue. 3. Being hopeful does not = being wiser. My god So you're saying being able to use a lightsaber decently is more mary sue than Luke, a farmer, being able to expertly pilot an advanced spaceship and shoot through a tiny window AND escape before it blows up? Rey literally fails every test Luke puts her through. And really never has the BREAKTHROUGH moment that Luke got. Just fucking admit you hate women. It's ok. 1) I feel like you are trolling https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJTz-ahXyyI Start at 3:39. She slices his leg, she gets his arm, kicks him to the ground, cuts his lightsaber and slices him across the face. SHE WON...it isn't even an argument. At this point, you really just need to STFU. She was able to read HIS mind...on the first try...sorry, at this point you are doubling down on stupid. 2) Have you not seen the movie?...seriously, you responses are akin to someone who watched the movie once and is going off of memory. Han's mouth was literally agape at her flying skills 3) Being right in the situation and not "everything is terrible, I give up" is clearly wiser. I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt, but your answers are just incredibly ignorant on multiple fronts. Quote: Ahh yes, the guy who is willing to commit mutiny against you! OK NOW I'll tell you the plan! You seem level headed! Fuck no. I'd lock his ass up. Instead of telling her plan to the best pilot in the fleet and a man who is risking his life to stop you because he thinks you are sending everyone to death is one of the stupidest plot points in movie history...period Quote: They literally told us he had a MOMENT of weakness, and remembered having faith in his father, but that moment was all it took. Completely plausible character development over the course of 20-30 years. You do realize people grow up, right? And that MOMENT of weakness was COMPLETELY out of character. It was literally made up as a plot device. There is ZERO indication in any Star Wars movie before this that Luke would act this way....EVER. You are literally proving my point. "EVERYONE should have a slightly different personality." Slightly? It is a POLAR OPPOSITE of Luke from the original trilogy. He acts NOTHING like Luke from Eps 4-6. That is what infuriated people.

Author:	Price [ Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:27 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Star Wars - Episode IX predictions (12/20/2019)
Don't bother to argue with Chippy, moviebuf. Next argument will be calling you stupid, racist, homophobe, misogynist, shut the fuck up, go away, etc. But somehow it's not his fault per se. I think it's due to a lack of oxygen at birth.

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Author:	Rev [ Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:44 am ]
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You guys arguing is making Palpatine stronger & stronger. STOP IT! or we will all die.

Author:	Price [ Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:31 am ]
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Rev wrote: You guys arguing is making Palpatine stronger & stronger. STOP IT! or we will all die. Good...Good...Let the hate flow through you.

Author:	Rev [ Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:59 am ]
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Price wrote: Rev wrote: You guys arguing is making Palpatine stronger & stronger. STOP IT! or we will all die. Good...Good...Let the hate flow through you. God damn it!

Author:	Excel [ Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:28 am ]
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The OT is horrible by todays standards. The story is still thematically powerful but the forced friendships/relationships and horrible acting is on full display...

Author:	Excel [ Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:58 am ]
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stfu

Author:	Chippy [ Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:18 pm ]
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Yeah it's not worth my time anymore. You clearly have no concept of thought on this subject.

Author:	Moviebuf [ Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:25 pm ]
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Coming from the guy who think Kylo Ren had a draw with Rey at the end of TFA...don't make me laugh. I literally listed the sequence of events that leaves him on the ground with multiple wounds including a slice across the face and no weapon...and you think....draw If you want to double down on stupid, that is up to you. But it is completely obvious.

Author:	Chippy [ Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:46 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Star Wars - Episode IX predictions (12/20/2019)
Yep, she defeated him. You're right.

Author:	nghtvsn [ Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:59 pm ]
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Only in some alternate reality would anyone even think Kylo was NOT defeated and were it not for a convenient crack in the planet she might have ended him right then and there but of course JJ couldn't let that happen. "did rey beat kylo" in google gives you these search results. Pretty clear. how did rey beat kylo ren how did rey beat kylo how did rey beat kylo reddit why did rey beat kylo ren so easily how does rey beat kylo ren

Author:	Chippy [ Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:47 pm ]
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That settles it.

Author:	Barrabás [ Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:09 am ]
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nghtvsn wrote: Only in some alternate reality would anyone even think Kylo was NOT defeated and were it not for a convenient crack in the planet she might have ended him right then and there but of course JJ couldn't let that happen. "did rey beat kylo" in google gives you these search results. Pretty clear. how did rey beat kylo ren how did rey beat kylo how did rey beat kylo reddit why did rey beat kylo ren so easily how does rey beat kylo ren I mean sure, she was a bit too powerful in that movie, but is this really that much worse than Sauron Immortal Lord of Darkness getting defeated by someone swatting his hand with a broken sword? Or literally ever Harry Potter book? It's fantasy/sci-fi/whatever.