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Why do Illumination movies make more than Dreamworks?
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Author:  zwackerm [ Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Why do Illumination movies make more than Dreamworks?
They have a similar formula it seems. Why is Sing going to make so much more than Trolls, KFP3, Home, Penguins, HTTYD2, etc.?
Author:  Algren [ Sat Dec 24, 2016 7:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Why do Illumination movies make more than Dreamworks?
DreamWorks seemed to lose its edge and tried to copy Pixar. Illumination is in that position of being the relative new boys with nothing to lose.
Author:  zwackerm [ Sat Dec 24, 2016 7:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Why do Illumination movies make more than Dreamworks?
Algren wrote:
DreamWorks seemed to lose its edge and tried to copy Pixar. Illumination is in that position of being the relative new boys with nothing to lose.

They tried to copy Pixar how? By making an effort to make a good movie?
Author:  lesterg [ Sat Dec 24, 2016 8:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Why do Illumination movies make more than Dreamworks?
Beyond "making more" - it's the profit that's really impressive. Dreamworks should be asking why Illumination is able to make movies that look basically as good as theirs for 1/2 the price.
Author:  Algren [ Sat Dec 24, 2016 8:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Why do Illumination movies make more than Dreamworks?
zwackerm wrote:
Algren wrote:
DreamWorks seemed to lose its edge and tried to copy Pixar. Illumination is in that position of being the relative new boys with nothing to lose.

They tried to copy Pixar how? By making an effort to make a good movie?


By making their movies more safe and by concentrating on franchises.
Author:  zwackerm [ Sat Dec 24, 2016 8:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Why do Illumination movies make more than Dreamworks?
Algren wrote:
zwackerm wrote:
Algren wrote:
DreamWorks seemed to lose its edge and tried to copy Pixar. Illumination is in that position of being the relative new boys with nothing to lose.

They tried to copy Pixar how? By making an effort to make a good movie?


By making their movies more safe and by concentrating on franchises.

I don't understand what you mean by more "safe". Early Dreamworks films had a formula. Assemble a celeb voice cast and make pop culture reference jokes. It worked exactly twice (Shrek and Shrek 2). How were they edgy?
Author:  Flava'd vs The World [ Sat Dec 24, 2016 9:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Why do Illumination movies make more than Dreamworks?
Fox ruined Dreamworks. Universal actually knows how to market their films.
Author:  Algren [ Sat Dec 24, 2016 9:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Why do Illumination movies make more than Dreamworks?
zwackerm wrote:
Algren wrote:
zwackerm wrote:
Algren wrote:
DreamWorks seemed to lose its edge and tried to copy Pixar. Illumination is in that position of being the relative new boys with nothing to lose.

They tried to copy Pixar how? By making an effort to make a good movie?


By making their movies more safe and by concentrating on franchises.

I don't understand what you mean by more "safe". Early Dreamworks films had a formula. Assemble a celeb voice cast and make pop culture reference jokes. It worked exactly twice (Shrek and Shrek 2). How were they edgy?


Shrek 2 had multiple sexual jokes. Show me a Pixar film that has the same? THAT's edgy in this business.
Author:  zwackerm [ Sat Dec 24, 2016 9:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Why do Illumination movies make more than Dreamworks?
Algren wrote:
zwackerm wrote:
Algren wrote:
zwackerm wrote:
Algren wrote:
DreamWorks seemed to lose its edge and tried to copy Pixar. Illumination is in that position of being the relative new boys with nothing to lose.

They tried to copy Pixar how? By making an effort to make a good movie?


By making their movies more safe and by concentrating on franchises.

I don't understand what you mean by more "safe". Early Dreamworks films had a formula. Assemble a celeb voice cast and make pop culture reference jokes. It worked exactly twice (Shrek and Shrek 2). How were they edgy?


Shrek 2 had multiple sexual jokes. Show me a Pixar film that has the same? THAT's edgy in this business.


That's not what makes a film good. Characters, story and emotion do. That's why Shrek was successful and Shark Tale, Madagascar, Over the Hedge etc. didn't come close to its gross, despite still actually doing very good in today's terms.
Author:  Algren [ Sat Dec 24, 2016 10:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Why do Illumination movies make more than Dreamworks?
zwackerm wrote:
Algren wrote:
zwackerm wrote:
Algren wrote:
zwackerm wrote:
Algren wrote:
DreamWorks seemed to lose its edge and tried to copy Pixar. Illumination is in that position of being the relative new boys with nothing to lose.

They tried to copy Pixar how? By making an effort to make a good movie?


By making their movies more safe and by concentrating on franchises.

I don't understand what you mean by more "safe". Early Dreamworks films had a formula. Assemble a celeb voice cast and make pop culture reference jokes. It worked exactly twice (Shrek and Shrek 2). How were they edgy?


Shrek 2 had multiple sexual jokes. Show me a Pixar film that has the same? THAT's edgy in this business.


That's not what makes a film good.


Well, of course not, but it does indicate that the film tries to appeal to adults and children, not solely children like Madagascar and Over the Hedge crap. And I thought we were talking about why they make more money. Here's a reason why. If you dispute it, then find your own answer. ;)
Author:  Thegun [ Sat Dec 24, 2016 11:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Why do Illumination movies make more than Dreamworks?
Shrek 2 had the animation record for the last 12 years, but sure.

At this point. They are all pretty shitty. All that matters is the trailer, then not be horrible enough to have legs afterwards.. Animation has seriously turned into the Mad Libs of cinema.
Author:  tree and a half [ Sun Dec 25, 2016 5:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Why do Illumination movies make more than Dreamworks?
Illumination has perfected the art of making assembly of inoffensive, thought-free movies for mass consumption - soon all movies will be made this way!
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