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Author:  publicenemy#1 [ Thu Nov 06, 2014 7:36 pm ]
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really, before Incredibles 2? :sleeping:
Author:  Algren [ Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:23 pm ]
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Yawn
Author:  Dr. Lecter [ Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:43 pm ]
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John Lasseter is directing. But I think the most curious thing is that Rashida Jones (!) and Will McCormack are writing the screenplay.

I think it will gross less than TS3.
Author:  Jmart [ Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:49 pm ]
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I wonder how long they've been working on this. Doesn't it normally take three or four years to make one of these, or has it advanced past that? I just don't want something that's rushed.
Author:  MadGez [ Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:31 pm ]
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This is not good news. I loved how the 3rd film ended and they should really have moved on. The TV specials are fine.

And yeah I think it will top out at $350m or so.
Author:  Brian [ Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:42 pm ]
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FUCKKKKKK

This was totally unexpected

Don't know how to react yet :zonks:
Author:  Brian [ Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:47 pm ]
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The 7 years gap better be enough to give us a new masterpiece
Author:  Chippy [ Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:27 am ]
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It really depends on what direction they go with it. If they make it more "adventure" than the others, like, them actually leaving the city, could work.

$350-450 mil.
Author:  SolC9 [ Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:32 am ]
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I think this is a bad Idea. The third movie ended great. Move on.
Author:  Chippy [ Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:56 am ]
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They'll need at least a 3 week break in between each other, I agree. But I don't think it will affect the maximum for the first or second films, unless they suck. Then that will boost the maximum for the third.
Author:  Brian [ Fri Nov 07, 2014 11:38 am ]
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Summer 2010 had Shrek 4, Toy Story 3 and Despicable Me, all co-existed and overperformed, even The Karate Kid (a family film too) made unexpected numbers

Shrek Forever After 238m May 21
The Karate Kid 176m June 11
Toy Story 3 415m June 18
Despicable Me 251m July 9
Author:  zwackerm [ Fri Nov 07, 2014 12:23 pm ]
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Shrek 4 performed on par with expectations by people who knew what was up. Analysts expecting 100 million were dumb.
Author:  zwackerm [ Sat Aug 15, 2015 12:15 am ]
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http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/08/15/ ... s-revealed

I have never had less interest in an upcoming Pixar film.
Author:  Jack Sparrow [ Sat Aug 15, 2015 8:15 am ]
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It might still do great numbers given that this is Pixar's strongest brand. I just don't see it decreasing too much from the last one but the competition will still be a factor and I believe DM movies will start declining as well so this one will do $400m just not enough to overtake TS3 or Shrek2.
Author:  zwackerm [ Sat Aug 15, 2015 9:51 am ]
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Jack Sparrow wrote:
It might still do great numbers given that this is Pixar's strongest brand. I just don't see it decreasing too much from the last one but the competition will still be a factor and I believe DM movies will start declining as well so this one will do $400m just not enough to overtake TS3 or Shrek2.

I see max 350 for this unless it's another masterpiece.
Author:  Thegun [ Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:58 pm ]
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Since its Toy story and the first 3 have been. Shouldn't be too hard considering it only has to be better than other Pixar films.
Author:  Jack Sparrow [ Sat Aug 15, 2015 9:05 pm ]
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zwackerm wrote:
Jack Sparrow wrote:
It might still do great numbers given that this is Pixar's strongest brand. I just don't see it decreasing too much from the last one but the competition will still be a factor and I believe DM movies will start declining as well so this one will do $400m just not enough to overtake TS3 or Shrek2.

I see max 350 for this unless it's another masterpiece.


I don't think they need to have a masterpiece for this to do more than $350m. DM2 was an inferior movie to DM and still made $350m+ ofcourse the series was increasing but we have yet to see a decrease in TS movie (atleast unadjusted). I believe the brand is strong enough for a $400m total which would still be a good decrease in admissions from TS3.
Author:  Dr. Lecter [ Sat Aug 15, 2015 9:46 pm ]
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Many people se Despicable Me 2 as superior to the first one.
Author:  Jack Sparrow [ Sat Aug 15, 2015 10:00 pm ]
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I just don't see how that can be true but opinions are opinions. Regardless I believe TS4 will between $125-$130m so it had to pretty much suck to do less than $400m.
Author:  zwackerm [ Sat Aug 15, 2015 11:24 pm ]
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Jack Sparrow wrote:
I just don't see how that can be true but opinions are opinions. Regardless I believe TS4 will between $125-$130m so it had to pretty much suck to do less than $400m.

It has to decrease more than that. You don't think people are wary by now?
Author:  Thegun [ Sat Aug 15, 2015 11:58 pm ]
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Jack Sparrow wrote:
zwackerm wrote:
Jack Sparrow wrote:
It might still do great numbers given that this is Pixar's strongest brand. I just don't see it decreasing too much from the last one but the competition will still be a factor and I believe DM movies will start declining as well so this one will do $400m just not enough to overtake TS3 or Shrek2.

I see max 350 for this unless it's another masterpiece.


I don't think they need to have a masterpiece for this to do more than $350m. DM2 was an inferior movie to DM and still made $350m+ ofcourse the series was increasing but we have yet to see a decrease in TS movie (atleast unadjusted). I believe the brand is strong enough for a $400m total which would still be a good decrease in admissions from TS3.

It hasn't dropped adjusted either, each sequel saw a healthy 10% in admissions.

It's a long way out but. I don't see why it wouldn't easily take the animated record and continue suit. People that were 10 loving the first will be 37 and with kids of their own. These are near perfect films that keep building on the formula.

You can't compare any of the DW sequels which had many misfires resulting in drops.
Author:  Jack Sparrow [ Sun Aug 16, 2015 4:03 am ]
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DM is not DW and its recent and similar to TS is one of the biggest animated brand for universal that's why the comparison. Its definitely not similar in terms of movies itself but I was comparing other factors.
Author:  Thegun [ Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:36 pm ]
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I do believe Minions has just hurt the DM brand. I don't see the next increasing because of it. Not that that really matters when your films cost sub 100 million and the next couple will still do 750+ WW
Author:  zwackerm [ Sun Aug 16, 2015 7:24 pm ]
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Minions has definitely hurt the DM brand, but I think if the third one gets decent reviews, with Gru and family coming back, it shouldn't decrease too much. Maybe 280-290 or even crawling to 300.
Author:  Jack Sparrow [ Mon Aug 17, 2015 12:07 am ]
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Thegun wrote:
I do believe Minions has just hurt the DM brand. I don't see the next increasing because of it. Not that that really matters when your films cost sub 100 million and the next couple will still do 750+ WW


Minions were the biggest thing for DM movies and their solo movie turning up not-so-great should definitely hurt the brand but then again the target audience for this are so small I don't see a HUGE decrease for it.

Regardless TS4 is not in the same boat. Pixar is back with IO and hopefully TGD and I am sure more movies will follow before June 2017 so I guess TS4 should be fine doing a very slight decrease.
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