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Keyser Söze
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 Transformers: Age of Extinction Interational
I am surprised there is no thread for this. I am thinking this will drop in OS as 3d is weaker in several markets plus it should drop in developed markets. China will increase big( 200M+ for sure). But not sure about Russia or Latin America. we have OD numbers for korea TF4 463,915TF3 551,538 OW 3.36M (5-DAY) TF2 478,546 OW 2.99M (5-DAY) TF1 306,678 OW 1.90M (4-DAY) from RTH on Aussie OD Quote: AUS Wed OD is at bottom end of Wednesday openings #13 its about 50% of T2/T3 wed openings which both did same business on Wed (T3 school hols). 3rd biggest OD 2014, behind TASM2, DOFP and just above Godz
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Algren
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So far, so bad. But perhaps expected?
It is the fourth in a series..
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Thu Jun 26, 2014 1:12 am |
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Keyser Söze
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From BO.com Australia. Numbers from MPDAA: TF4: $1.33m To compare: TF3: $2.63m TF2: $2.65m RTH on NZ Quote: see how weekend progresses but Wed opening in NZ is 29% of DSOTM OD wed and 24% of ROTF OD Wed. I guess we will see some good news tomorrow once we get day 1 numbers for rest of asia and china midnights. but I am seeing this drop from TF3 in OS. Somewhere around 700M OS.
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choubachou
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Looks like the movie is a massive turd.
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Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:49 am |
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Crux
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Not saying the movie looks great....but any movie that will probably get a $1Billion total is not a turd in my book.
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Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:02 am |
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Keyser Söze
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At least its dropping hard in most places Even Taiwan OD is 48% down from TF3. This is missing 700M for sure.
Crux, Would you agree its a turd if it misses 1B :-)
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Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:36 am |
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Jonathan
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Crux wrote: Not saying the movie looks great....but any movie that will probably get a $1Billion total is not a turd in my book. Alice in Wonderland would like a word with you.
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Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:51 am |
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Crux
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The only reason it might be a turd in some people's minds is because of expectation. Even if it only makes $900 million that would probably put in the top 5 movies of the year....so not a turd.
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Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:51 am |
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Keyser Söze
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Courtesy Olive@BO
South Korea 2nd day admissions 309k -34% total 780k TF3 434k -20% 986k TF2 377K -21% 855K TF1 301K -2% 612K
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Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:09 am |
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BK
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Jon wrote: Crux wrote: Not saying the movie looks great....but any movie that will probably get a $1Billion total is not a turd in my book. Alice in Wonderland would like a word with you. Alice in Turdland.
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Corpse
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To see it "struggling" in some major markets currently is really surprising to me. I really expected it to reach $800 million without much effort honestly. Shrek 4 and Pirates 4 still managed to increase overseas, afterall, especially Pirates.
I'm also surprised, a bit, that reviews are so terrible. It might end up below 10% on RT. I know it's the fourth in the series, and the series isn't known for good reviews, but changing the cast and story a bit would have pleased some I thought.
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Thu Jun 26, 2014 5:44 pm |
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Algren
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Corpse, it is ok, it will not disappoint THAT much to the extent that China cannot make up for the losses. I expect a good $750m overseas.
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Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:29 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
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Jon wrote: Crux wrote: Not saying the movie looks great....but any movie that will probably get a $1Billion total is not a turd in my book. Alice in Wonderland would like a word with you. He means the performance, not the quality of the film. I am sure you are not implying Alice's performance was not good, hehe.
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Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:39 pm |
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i.hope
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I hope it finishes under $700M internationally.
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Thu Jun 26, 2014 7:07 pm |
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Dil
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I can't help but wonder if to some degree The Avenger's is responsible for it's decrease OS. I wouldn't be surprised if by now OS audiences are tired of mass destruction porn.
I keep forgetting that DOTM/TA were only released a year apart and both being such HUGE hits internationally has probably exhausted the audience for these movies quite a bit.
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Algren
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Dil wrote: I can't help but wonder if to some degree The Avenger's is responsible for it's decrease OS. I wouldn't be surprised if by now OS audiences are tired of mass destruction porn. It's a bit late for this theory since Man of Steel failed to make $300m.
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Keyser Söze
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RTH is predicting 8-9M OW for TF4 in australia. That is like 45% drop from TF3. I am thinking 30-50% drops in developed markets on average. China is not going to make up for the difference.
BTW china midnights are looking at 25-30M Yuan. Previous record is 12M yuan for IM3. it was huge as expected. IM3 OD was 121M Yuan.
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Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:31 pm |
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Algren
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Well China will surely make $200m. I think the rest of the world can make $550m, easily. It's still on for $750m overseas.
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Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:33 pm |
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Algren
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It's doing ok in Hong Kong. #2 opening day of all-time.
I think this will be the case with all Asian markets, to be honest, bar Sud Korea.
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Fri Jun 27, 2014 12:45 am |
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BK
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Taiwan drop probably explained by how Taiwanese don't like China and TF4 is yet another Chinese movie in disguise.
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Fri Jun 27, 2014 5:38 am |
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Keyser Söze
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it appears actual midnight number for TF4 is 20M. Paramount optimistically predicted 40M :-)
Anyway China is one market which is headed for a record. It appears WOM is not great and it is expected to gross only 9x of its OD. So 150M Yuan will translate to 1.35B which is lower than Avatar.
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Jack Sparrow
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Saw the film and its really BAD. Still I thought it would do $700m OS. 45% decreases over OW is not as good. I expected a 15%-20% drop OW. $700m might not happen at this pace.
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Fri Jun 27, 2014 12:15 pm |
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pro1986
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Jack Sparrow wrote: Saw the film and its really BAD. Still I thought it would do $700m OS. 45% decreases over OW is not as good. I expected a 15%-20% drop OW. $700m might not happen at this pace. WOM seems to be good judging by reaction.
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Fri Jun 27, 2014 12:22 pm |
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Keyser Söze
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China OD it appears around 150-170M Yuan. Its not going increase that much from TF3. OS gross will be sub 700M for sure.
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Fri Jun 27, 2014 12:35 pm |
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Jack Sparrow
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pro1986 wrote: Jack Sparrow wrote: Saw the film and its really BAD. Still I thought it would do $700m OS. 45% decreases over OW is not as good. I expected a 15%-20% drop OW. $700m might not happen at this pace. WOM seems to be good judging by reaction. Yes the WOM seems to be good here as well but personally this entry is a NEW LOW for Bay and Transformers series.
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