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Dr. Lecter
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The Expendables 3 Predictions
It will obviously come, I suppose around 2014.
I think the good legs for the second film (which is going to finish with a multiplier better than the first film!) has shown that it was really well-received. It was already surprising that the first movie had such good legs, but for the sequel to get to a multiplier of 3 is just terrific.
I'm thinking a lot will depend on hpow they'll cast additionally for the third movie. While adding the likes of Steven Seagal, Wesley Snpes and even Nicholas Cage will please some fans, I really doubt it will add much in terms of realpulling power.
However if they can get someone like Vin Diesel, The Rock or Liam Neeson...then it could become the series' highest-grossing film.
Right now, I'm thinkign an opening around $35 million and a total around $90 million if they don't add any of the names right above.
But an Expendables film with The Rock, Liam Neeson and maybe even Clint Eastwood as they are planning... $120+ million total.
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Flava'd vs The World
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Re: The Expendables 3 Predictions
Don't see it getting a budget increase. I'm actual gonna predict that a few stars get killed off in a dramatic cold open. That way they can still misadvertise the movie. Why would the Rock or Liam Neeson do this? They can make hits on their own.
That being said, I'm also predicting the title will be The Expendables 3D and still hit your conservative prediction.
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Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:33 pm |
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
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Re: The Expendables 3 Predictions
I am seeing an increase from second and marginally becoming the highest grosser of the series. $110m total maybe. Though it has to be good as well cause I see an opening between 2nd and 1st movie.
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Sun Oct 07, 2012 12:08 am |
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Algren
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Re: The Expendables 3 Predictions
They must learn from the mistakes in TE2 and make a spectacular finale. If done right, higher than TE2 DOM, if not, lower.
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Sat Oct 20, 2012 5:01 am |
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Algren
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Re: The Expendables 3 Predictions
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Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:22 am |
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: The Expendables 3 Predictions
Cage will provide like 0 help for its marketing IMO.
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:30 am |
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Algren
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Re: The Expendables 3 Predictions
Cage will be great, but Sly has said those rumours are untrue. But if Cage was on board, he's a big star, and can draw people to it. He's still a draw (in the right film).
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:54 am |
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: The Expendables 3 Predictions
What would be the right role? He is certainly not a draw anymore in action movies (there is a huge list to prove that)
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:58 am |
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Algren
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Re: The Expendables 3 Predictions
The right role being National Secrets, or a movie where he can play well with the other big-named star. He'd be a blast in his Castor Troy character if he was a villain in TE3. People would come.
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:02 am |
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: The Expendables 3 Predictions
I highly doubt people will be excited to see Cage as a villian in TE3, they was almost no buzz when Van Damne was playing villain and in action world specially at this time Van Damne's name is greater than Nicholas Cage IMO.
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:21 am |
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Algren
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Re: The Expendables 3 Predictions
Cage is a huge star name. Of course his addition will make the third movie more appealing. The ensemble is something that makes TE3 appealing.
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:54 am |
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: The Expendables 3 Predictions
Algren wrote: Cage is a huge star name. The Sorcerer's Apprentice Season of the Witch Drive Angry Ghost Rider: Spirit of a Vengeance Beg to differ that statement.
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:55 pm |
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Algren
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Re: The Expendables 3 Predictions
So he had a few misses. He's still headlining pictures and is known by everyone.
I see you conveniently left off the National Treasure franchise and Port of Call New Orleans where he was both great commercially and critically.
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Magic Mike
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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 4:53 am Posts: 34875 Location: Minnesota
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Re: The Expendables 3 Predictions
65-70 Million if they don't get someone with actual pull, like The Rock. If not I definitely don't see it increasing over the second.
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Algren
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Re: The Expendables 3 Predictions
I kind of agree with you, Mike. However, I don't think it's just down to it needing a star with pull (although that would indeed help). I also feel that if it was made by a more competent director than Simon West, had some shocking elements to the story (death of an Expendable maybe), a real threat, and less jokes and more hardcore action, it would also increase over the second. The second one, while it's grossed more worldwide, I think has hurt the franchise somewhat. It's now a jokey series, a kind of wishy-washy popcorn movie, whereas the first was a balls to the wall action movie. I hope they revert back to that formula for the 3rd and Stallone directs.
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:13 pm |
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Magic Mike
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Re: The Expendables 3 Predictions
I think having the right star will certainly help. Someone like The Rock would really increase interest. He did wonders for Fast Five and I think he certainly helped Journey 2. Every sequel should just get him . Is that female Expendables movie actually going to happen I wonder? Now that I'd be interested in, but I'm sure it wouldn't do as well at the Box Office. Not unless they get someone like Angelina Jolie for the lead.
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:33 pm |
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Jmart
Superman: The Movie
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:47 am Posts: 21141 Location: Massachusetts
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Re: The Expendables 3 Predictions
Jack Sparrow wrote: Algren wrote: Cage is a huge star name. The Sorcerer's Apprentice Season of the Witch Drive Angry Ghost Rider: Spirit of a Vengeance Beg to differ that statement. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I agree with Algren. People are tired of Cage's schtick of starring in purposefully awful movies, but I think they'd accept and love him in something like The Expendables 3. I think there is a fine line in terms of what kind of schlock people want to see and I think The Expendables 3 would be on the right side of that line. But I do think they'll need another name if they want a substantial increase over the second film.
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:57 pm |
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Magic Mike
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Re: The Expendables 3 Predictions
I don't know. Cage has become such a joke that I don't know if he can redeem himself. People used to love him, and now I only hear people trash talking about him. And I can't say I blame them. He has been in utter trash and been terrible in it. Though I'll admit I thought Drive Angry was a blast.
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Jmart
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Re: The Expendables 3 Predictions
Magic Mike wrote: I don't know. Cage has become such a joke that I don't know if he can redeem himself. People used to love him, and now I only hear trash talking about him. And I can't say I blame them. He has been in utter trash and been terrible in it. Though I'll admit I thought Drive Angry was a blast. I don't think he can do it by himself in a starring role. I also don't think anyone would be dumb (or smart) enough to give him a serious starring role. I think he'd need to do it in a movie like this and I think that's more than possible. He showed he could do it in a movie like Kick-Ass, but it wasn't a large enough movie for enough people to take notice.
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Magic Mike
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Re: The Expendables 3 Predictions
Jmart wrote: Magic Mike wrote: I don't know. Cage has become such a joke that I don't know if he can redeem himself. People used to love him, and now I only hear trash talking about him. And I can't say I blame them. He has been in utter trash and been terrible in it. Though I'll admit I thought Drive Angry was a blast. I don't think he can do it by himself in a starring role. I also don't think anyone would be dumb (or smart) enough to give him a serious starring role. I think he'd need to do it in a movie like this and I think that's more than possible. He showed he could do it in a movie like Kick-Ass, but it wasn't a large enough movie for enough people to take notice. I think it should be in an indie drama. Something sure to garner acclaim. He is capable of giving a great performance. But there would have to be someone who believes in him enough to cast him in a great role. I'm sure someone still has faith in him.
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: The Expendables 3 Predictions
I agree with Mike here. Cage will not recover from good performance out of a blockbuster which would give him like 20 minutes of screenplay. He has to do more serious roles and Expendables is not the series that you can gain fame being a supporting cast, Arnold got back because he was out of movie business and people wanted him back. Cage is still very present in movies, specially direct-to-DVD movies (Stolen being this awful was released in India, Malaysia and Singapore). Cage can be a draw but not enough to give TE3 a big boost (actually I think there will be no boost). Van Damne's association did noting for TE2 (I actually saw more focus on Arnold and Bruce than him) the same thing will happen to Cage's association with TE3.
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Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:09 am |
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Algren
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Re: The Expendables 3 Predictions
You are suggesting that Cage is on the same level of stardom as Van Damme?
That's ridiculous. Van Damme has been in DTV for about 11 years. Cage has had one movie gone to DTV. He's a huge star still, and his inclusion wil obviously give TE3 a more recent A-lister than has been in TE1 and TE2.
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: The Expendables 3 Predictions
I have already provided you my reasons why Cage is on a decline. Declining star IMO is worse than a star in shadows building some fanbase.
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Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:34 pm |
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Algren
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Re: The Expendables 3 Predictions
Just thought I'd share this awesome poster fot TE2:
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Algren
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Re: The Expendables 3 Predictions
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