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Post Re: Japan Box-Office: Demon Slayer Obliterating Record Books
pookpooi wrote:
I google translate some Japanese tweets that suggest Ufotable might make the rest of the story in movies, not series, instantly making Demon Slayer the biggest cinematic franchise in Japan, and one of the biggest cinematic franchise in the world.


How can they fit all the rest stuffs in the manga into movie tho.....
I wish they could do season 2, 3 and maybe 2 more movies.

They are around 135 chapters left...
And one movie can have 10-12 chapters at most I think

But the main problem is that some big arc can include 20-30 chapters....... and should not be splited into 2 movies.


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Yeah I rather have some anime and some movies instead of producing all volumes in movies. I do not think that movie route will be as successful without the anime, eventually the demand will die down for this and you'll have to wait another 5-6 years (most likely more) finish this small series.


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Demon Slayer: Mugen Train - Daily Performance Tracker

10/16 - Fri.: ¥1,268,724,700 ($12.0 million) / 910,507
10/17 - Sat.: ¥1,701,723,350 ($16.2 million) / 1,270,234
10/18 - Sun.: ¥1,652,669,400 ($15.7 million) / 1,239,752
10/19 - Mon.: ¥735,000,000 ($7.0 million) / 545,000
10/20 - Tues.: ¥545,000,000 ($5.1 million) / 395,000
10/21 - Wed.: ¥635,000,000 ($6.0 million) / 505,000
10/22 - Thur.: ¥465,000,000 ($4.5 million) / 340,000
10/23 - Fri.: ¥700,000,000 ($6.7 million) / 510,000
10/24 - Sat.: ¥1,500,944,600 ($14.3 million) / 1,115,182
10/25 - Sun.: ¥1,540,504,150 ($14.7 million) / 1,157,654
10/26 - Mon.: ¥620,000,000 ($5.9 million) / 460,000
10/27 - Tues.: ¥410,000,000 ($3.9 million) / 300,000
10/28 - Wed.: ¥575,000,000 ($5.5 million) / 430,000
10/29 - Thur.: ¥390,000,000 ($3.7 million) / 285,000
10/30 - Fri.: ¥555,000,000 ($5.3 million) / 405,000
10/31 - Sat.: ¥1,212,312,550 ($11.6 million) / 887,893
11/01 - Sun.: ¥1,286,354,600 ($12.3 million) / 1,140,390 *Discount Day*
11/02 - Mon: ¥820,000,000 ($7.8 million) / 605,000 *Holiday Boosted*
11/03 - Tues.: ¥1,230,000,000 ($11.8 million) / 925,000 *Holiday*
11/04 - Wed.: ¥350,000,000 ($3.3 million) / 255,000
11/05 - Thur.: ¥230,000,000 ($2.2 million) / 170,000
11/06 - Fri.: ¥270,000,000 ($2.6 million) / 200,000
11/07 - Sat.: ¥863,827,750 ($8.3 million) / 628,614
11/08 - Sun.: ¥909,098,150 ($8.8 million) / 667,179
11/09 - Mon.: ¥290,000,000 ($2.8 million) / 215,000 *est.*


25-Day Cumulative Total: ¥20,773,611,650 ($198.1 million) / 15,588,943 *est.*

It has surpassed Howl's Moving Castle now in admissions after just 25-days. And in admissions, next up is Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (16.2 million) and Titanic (16.83 million). It'll surpass Harry Potter on Friday, most likely, and then it'll surpass Titanic over the weekend.

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Post Re: Japan Box-Office: Demon Slayer Obliterating Record Books
If DS has a 60-70% drop, it should collect around $ 3.5M- $ 4.7M, but personally I am probably expecting a bigger drop, what is normally sure is that he will exceed $ 200M tomorrow in Japan


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Tuesday perhaps ¥225mn or something.


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Tuesday perhaps ¥225mn or something.


Wow, a 82% drop, I didn't expect so much


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Yeah, Tuesday will be lower than Monday. That's just how the weekdays work.

But It'll still be bigger than any first Tuesday in recent years. We're basically still discussing weekdays that arw bigger in their fourth week than the first week of nearly everything even with the expected drops from a holiday. The drops from Wednesday on will be comparable.

It just needs to match Frozen II now to reach #1 all time and it just crushed it on Monday by over 40%, so the Monday-Friday frame will likely end up about that much higher versus Frozen II's first week. It's become almost impossible not to beat Spirited Away now.

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1st Tues was down 27% from Mon with more spillover than other Tuesdays. 2nd was down 34% from Mon. I would consider 225 quite good and anything above 200 still solid.


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Can someone explain me what is usual locations ? I don't quite understand what it is because for example this Monday Demon Slayer achieved 148k admissions, but in the end, Corpse announces 215k admissions, are these 67k admissions the ones that are not counted because they are in the countryside or in places where admissions are not counted day after day ?

Corpse, Knowing that Demon Slayer normally crossed the $ 200M mark this Tuesday, could you rank the films that have reached this milestone as quickly as possible? (Or maybe it's unnecessary because the ranking will be very similar to the ¥ 20 billion step)


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charlie jat wrote:
Tuesday perhaps ¥225mn or something.


Not the Mother of God hold but still a great number.


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Can someone explain me what is usual locations ? I don't quite understand what it is because for example this Monday Demon Slayer achieved 148k admissions, but in the end, Corpse announces 215k admissions, are these 67k admissions the ones that are not counted because they are in the countryside or in places where admissions are not counted day after day ?

Corpse, Knowing that Demon Slayer normally crossed the $ 200M mark this Tuesday, could you rank the films that have reached this milestone as quickly as possible? (Or maybe it's unnecessary because the ranking will be very similar to the ¥ 20 billion step)


Usual locations = the site I messaged you about. :mer: They account for ~70% of the entire market, largely theaters located in the urban prefectures. The unaccounted locations are mostly in the rural prefectures.

It's pretty similar to the ¥20 billion one I'd expect, but I can try to post it if you want.

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Well I was expecting a tuesday like ¥180/190M, so anything over ¥200M I'll take it.

So with a ¥290 monday and ¥200 tuesday, weekdays could be between ¥1.1/1.2 billion right?


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charlie jat wrote:
Tuesday perhaps ¥225mn or something.


Not the Mother of God hold but still a great number.


It's still Mother of God, honestly. I continue to preach perspective here, and will keep doing so. :mer:

That Tuesday projection there, its fourth Tuesday..., would be higher than over 50% higher than the FIRST Tuesday of the biggest films in several years (except one, where it'd be like 20/25% higher). I really don't even know what film would have had a first Tuesday (non-holiday) that would be bigger unless it was a big summer release from way back like The Wind Rises (2013) or HP8 (2011) or something before 2010, like Ponyo (2008), HP5 (2007) or Pirates 3 (2007).

I have a list coming up soon comparing Demon Slayer's FOURTH week dailies to the first week dailies of the biggest films in recent years, and one's that it only has to match in order to surpass Spirited Away. Hint: It crushed all of them on Monday.

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So no one (including me!) has to go back and reference this week's (fourth week, gonna keep reminding people of this) weekdays, here are how the biggest films of the past three years performed in their FIRST week. Note: Demon Slayer just has to match any of them, not even beat them, to continue its course of beating Spirited Away:

Demon Slayer Fourth Week Dailies Versus Various Films' First Week Dailies:

2PM < 7PM < Final Admissions (Usual Locations):

Demon Slayer: Mugen Train (FOURTH Week):
Mon. - 71,455 > 126,132 < 148,335
Tues. -
Wed. -
Thur. -
Fri. -

Frozen II (First Week):
Mon. - 54,447 < 92,121 < 104,052
Tues. - 27,455 < 54,818 < 65,760
Wed. - 46,552 < 95,692 < 110,823
Thur. - 25,992 < 51,478 < 61,081
Fri. - 23,952 < 57,013 < 77,296

Weathering With You (First Week):
Mon. - 59,941 < 107,816 < 125,510
Tues. - 44,884 < 82,161 < 97,566
Wed. - 65,636 < 119,995 < 139,965
Thur. - 47,737 < 85,766 < 100,547
Fri. - 48,453 < 93,050 < 122,720

Aladdin (First Week):
Mon. - 44,268 < 90,472 < 109,847
Tues. - 24,934 < 58,999 < 76,025
Wed. - 44,968 < 99,900 < 124,887
Thur. - 22,834 < 54,159 < 70,555
Fri. - 27,992 < 68,615 < 103,910

Beauty and the Beast (First Week):
Mon. - 45,260 < 88,422 < 108,101
Tues. - 30,251 < 64,185 < 81,400
Wed. - 58,924 < 124,700 < 152,195
Thur. - 28,549 < 61,268 < 77,112
Fri. - 24,959 < 57,366 < 100,795


Mon. Result: 43% above Frozen II, 18% above Weathering With You, 35% above Aladdin, 37% above Beauty and the Beast.
Tues. Result:
Wed. Result:
Thur. Result:
Fri. Result:

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“You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.”
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Iirc F2 was very ordinary during weekdays, and weekends were crazy good. I won't really compare F2 daily, may be Week will be better comp.

F2 first week was ¥2.57bn approx as compared to ¥2.9-3bn I expect Demon Slayer's 4th will be. Will post a showdown today of two.


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Frozen II did have average/poor weekdays because Disney released it in the off-season in the market (risky for a family-driven film), 5 weeks out from any holiday period. Its weekends were good/great for the most part, but they didn't really make up for all the money lost on the weekdays. Weekday earnings are just as important as weekends in the market, accounting for 40/45% of a film's total in most cases.

Of course, good thing Disney didn't wait to release it in the Spring like the original Frozen (and most of their November releases in the States and elsewhere) because they would have delayed it and lost out on Japan's significant portion of its revenue. Really makes me wonder what they would have done with it if they had it scheduled in March. Seems like too much money to lose to not reschedule it at some point, but they've shown no desire to release their films in the market (or anywhere) this year without a U.S. release too.

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“You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.”
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Of course, good thing Disney didn't wait to release it in the Spring like the original Frozen (and most of their November releases in the States and elsewhere) because they would have delayed it and lost out on Japan's significant portion of its revenue. Really makes me wonder what they would have done with it if they had it scheduled in March. Seems like too much money to lose to not reschedule it at some point, but they've shown no desire to release their films in the market (or anywhere) this year without a U.S. release too.


One must doubt if they knew what's gonna happen in 2020, so they stacked all their big tentpoles in 2019 :noway: :funny: :emo:


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Tuesday perhaps ¥225mn or something.


Not the Mother of God hold but still a great number.


It's still Mother of God, honestly. I continue to preach perspective here, and will keep doing so. :mer:

That Tuesday projection there, its fourth Tuesday..., would be higher than over 50% higher than the FIRST Tuesday of the biggest films in several years (except one, where it'd be like 20/25% higher). I really don't even know what film would have had a first Tuesday (non-holiday) that would be bigger unless it was a big summer release from way back like The Wind Rises (2013) or HP8 (2011) or something before 2010, like Ponyo (2008), HP5 (2007) or Pirates 3 (2007).

I have a list coming up soon comparing Demon Slayer's FOURTH week dailies to the first week dailies of the biggest films in recent years, and one's that it only has to match in order to surpass Spirited Away. Hint: It crushed all of them on Monday.


As an individual number as I mentioned it's great. But as a hold I still do not think it's MOG level because then we are comparing it against itself and I felt it could have done a sub-75% hold or maybe with actuals next week it might do :lol:


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charlie jat wrote:
One must doubt if they knew what's gonna happen in 2020, so they stacked all their big tentpoles in 2019 :noway: :funny: :emo:


Pretty sure it's because of the Fox buyout that they needed money to keep themselves afloat and finance tons of Future projects. Disney has never been shy of spending money.


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Maybe we could compare Harry Potter 2 with Demon Slayer, this one was released in November with a 1st weekend comparable to the 4th weekend of Demon Slayer (around $ 17M) and a second weekend probably close to the 5th weekend of Demon Slayer (around $ 11M)

On top of that during his first week (excluding weekends) he made $ 10M, that's about what Demon Slayer will do during his 4th week, the only problem is that Box Office Mojo does not indicate how it worked during festive periods

It seems to me that this could be an interesting comparison, but after I do not know what you think, it is true that we are talking about a film released 18 years ago


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Disney REALLY lucked out. Most convenient stacking of the schedule ever.

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Corpse, can you update your predictions ?


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The day by day weekly projections? Sure. I'll post them tomorrow.

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Pg Bump (Weekend Actuals, etc. --->)

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Weekend Actuals (11/07-08):
01 (01) ¥1,772,925,900 ($17.1 million), -29%, ¥20,483,611,650 ($195.2 million), Demon Slayer: Mugen Train (Toho/Aniplex) WK4
02 (02) ¥110,713,400 ($1.1 million), -39%, ¥626,701,650 ($6.1 million), The Voice of Sin (Toho) WK2
03 (04) ¥x61,087,700 ($591,000), -24%, ¥611,775,480 ($5.6 million), Your Eyes Tell (Gaga) WK3
04 (05) ¥x56,188,750 ($544,000), -18%, ¥606,522,930 ($5.7 million), Twiceborn (Nikkatsu) WK4
05 (03) ¥x53,211,550 ($515,000), -51%, ¥233,786,570 ($2.2 million), Pretty Cure Miracle Leap! A Mysterious Day With Everyone (Toei) WK2
06 (---) ¥x53,110,070 ($505,000), 0, ¥x68,923,460 ($0.6 million), Monster Strike: Lucifer - Dawn of Despair (Aeon Entertainment) NEW
07 (---) ¥x47,458,980 ($451,000), 0, ¥x66,875,120 ($0.6 million), 461 Days of Bento (Toei) NEW
08 (---) ¥x41,077,448 ($415,000), 0, ¥x41,077,448 ($0.4 million), The Legend of Hei (Aniplex/Team Joy) NEW
09 (07) ¥x28,879,620 ($279,000), -36%, ¥2,620,429,680 ($24.9 million), Tenet (Warner Bros.) WK8
10 (---) ¥x27,877,500 ($265,000), 0, ¥x62,899,900 ($0.6 million), Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone [2001 re-release] (Warner Bros.) NEW
11 (08) ¥x25,165,900 ($244,000), -44%, ¥1,755,561,700 ($16.8 million), Violet Evergarden: The Movie (Shochiku) WK8
12 (06) ¥x20,866,910 ($202,000), -60%, ¥148,356,520 ($1.4 million), Tonkatsu DJ Age-Taro (Warner Bros.) WK2
13 (09) ¥x17,911,900 ($173,000), -46%, ¥1,110,793,250 ($10.5 million), The Asadas! (Toho) WK6


>Demon Slayer: Mugen Train threepeats. Biggest Fourth Weekend ever (by 65%), even big enough to be the biggest opening weekend for a local film. Biggest Four Week Total (by a 2:1 margin). Fastest to ¥20 Billion. Fastest to 15 million admissions. And much more that's been discussed the past few pages.

>The Voice of Sin enjoyed a decent second weekend dip after opening over a discount weekend last week, and has assured that it'll reach the ¥1 billion (~$10 million) milestone.

>Monster Strike: Lucifer - Dawn of Despair is an estimate. Oddly its weekend figure hasn't been released yet despite playing fairly wide (284 locations), so I'll update it when it's available. 461 Days of Bento is also an estimate for the time being; its weekend figure hasn't been released yet either, but I'll update it. EDIT: Actuals added!

>The Legend of Hei performed pretty well for a Chinese important animated film, selling 24,386 admissions over the weekend across 135 screens. I doubt this is the best debut for a Chinese imported animated feature, but it's certainly pretty high because I can't recall ever seeing one debut in the Top 10 (thanks to the lack of Hollywood films, it made it!).

The Weekend Top 10 is up 72% (based on the few estimates above) versus the same weekend last year.

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