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Author: | BK [ Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:54 am ] |
Post subject: | 100m hits before Iron Man 2 hits in 2010 |
With inflation, grosses just keep on going up, and year after year more films should keep breaking records, thus which candidates are likely this year/next year? Last year, or this year, we had unexpected rockets in Paul Blart and Taken both surging to 140m+ in January. He's Just Not That Into You exceeded expectations but missed the century mark. Both Friday the 13th and Madea exploded out of the gate but had lousy multipliers and failed to hit the big 100 too. Watchmen then disappointed massively with 200m+ predictions being killed early. Race to Witch Mountain then failed and didn't get past 70m. Monsters Vs Aliens did it's expected huge gross and finally, Fast and Furious broke out with a huge OW and did over 100m like expected but had a terrible multiplier though its final gross was above what many predicted. 5 films in a 4 month period got above 100m, which I think was a record? So what are we looking at next year? 1. Book of Eli 15th Jan Touted as a contender following Taken's extraordinary success but after the trailer came out it looks like it'll fall into the expected Denzel range of between 60-70m. Interesting concept but doesn't look like it'll be exceptionally good with audiences and the quality is questionable with the trailer being really quite underwhelming. 2. Edge of Darkness 29th Jan I didn't believe it myself until I saw half of the trailer, stopping myself because it seemed the trailer would give away everything. However it does look like this year's Taken and Mel Gibson has been a solid draw and hasn't had a movie in years, last directing 4 years ago by 2010 too. This looks good for 100m+ 3. Valentine's Day 12th Feb With an all star ensemble cast, basically the who's who of romantic comedies, this looks to be huge. Yet I don't see how they will be able to fit all of these people into a cohesive movie. I think it'll be a mess and thus 150-200m as thrown out in the trailer thread will not be possible. Look for a respectable but underwhelming gross of 110-120m considering the cast but expected due to the predictable quality the movie will be. 4. The Wolfman 12th Feb Previously a tentpole release for winter 2009 for Universal, it's constant release date changes made it look like a prime example of being a shitty movie that just needed to be released to fulfill contractual obligations. However after recent trailers, it looks like a really great epic fantasy romantic thriller tale. I'm sold and I think if this has good WOM it'll be able to reach the century mark. Universal should have kept it in 2009 and gone for the first weekend of December, which looks dead at the moment. Thankfully they had CR being a good hit after their string of flops in the summer. 5. Shutter Island 19th Feb Scorsese's latest and a candidate for Best Picture Oscar for 2009 it too was rescheduled really shoddily with a lame excuse by Paramount who've been having a great few years. However it still looks as good as before and Di Caprio is indeed a draw and looks good in the movie. Although the trailer paints it less accessible than most of his previous movies if this is good, which it should be, it will be heading for the 100 club too. There may be a few qualms about the quality since February is a far way away from Oscar season, almost a year? But we shall see. 6. Alice in Wonderland 5th Mar Tentpole release for Disney and in my opinion they need this to be a hit. After a disappointing fall-winter season, with Surrogates flopping and Xmas Carol disappointing (yes, it will ![]() 7. Clash of the Titans 26th Mar I know little about this movie in comparison to the others and most of you. All I know it's supposed to be some mythological fantasy action epic with Worthington and Neeson and that itself sounds fantastic. Given it's huge budget and prime release date it's obviously gunning for a respectable total thus at this point sub-100m would be disappointing. It's got competition and I just realized both it and Dragon from Dreamworks will be some sort of medieval fantasy epic however they should cater to different enough demographics for both to do well and dominate the weekend and April with their legs assuming both are crowdpleasers. Titans seems after all like a Pirates 1 than say a GI Joe though I enjoyed both. Either way it should gross 100m, let's just hope it's good. 8.How to Train Your Dragon 26th Mar The token original Dreamworks animated film of the year. This year there will be two, with Oobermind in November and it steals the March position most famously held by Blue Sky who've released 4 of their 5 movies on this date before MVA stole it last year pushing IA3 to summer. Not much to say really, but the last and only Dreamworks movie not to cross 100m was Antz and even at that it grossed 90m in 1998. So this is pretty much a guarantee as MVA was last year and which all Dreamworks movies are, kind of like how Pixar movies are guaranteed 200m. Anyway, it's interesting and hopefully it'll continue Dreamworks stride away from overdependence on Shrek, Madagascar and pop culture. 9. Date Night 9th Apr Tina Fey + Steve Carell = comedy gold. The premise sounds good and I expected a huge total until some guy came along and said it didn't really work and it was too action-oriented. Kind of like Observe + Report and Pineapple Express or something like that. So, my expectations have fallen but I'll have to see it myself and to a lesser extent critic's response. Audience response is key and a relatively decent opening could help this film leg it there. I mean, come on, Fey and Carell, how can it not possibly be good? Others that may have potential that I do not know much about or do not have trailers yet: 10. Percy Jackson and the Olympians 12th Feb 11. The Bounty Hunter 19th Mar 12. Repo Men(?) 2nd Apr 13. Why Did I Get Married Too? 2nd Apr 14. The Losers 9th Apr 15. Kick Ass 16th Apr 16. Wall Street 2 23rd Apr 17. A Nightmare on Elm Street(99% chance of it not happening obviously being what it is) 30th Apr Imagine what a great spring it'd be if "Grown Ups" and "The Expendables" stayed in March and April respectively. Summer however, looks quite weak in comparison so far with the exception of Iron Man 2 and Toy Story 3. |
Author: | MadGez [ Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:25 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 100m hits before Iron Man 2 hits in 2010 |
Nice write-up ![]() The pre-summer period for next year looks quite solid, I can see quite a few $100m grossers but likely many of these could finish in the $90m area. At this stage: Book of Eli - $75m Edge of Darkness - $110m Valentine's Day - $118m The Wolfman - $91m Shutter Island - $105m Alice in Wonderland - $165m Clash of the Titans - $159m How to Train Your Dragon - $100m Date Night - $86m Others that could break out - Dear John, Kick Ass and The Bounty Hunter. |
Author: | Rev [ Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:04 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 100m hits before Iron Man 2 hits in 2010 |
Kickass will be the biggest hit of the spring. ![]() |
Author: | BK [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:12 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 100m hits before Iron Man 2 hits in 2010 |
MadGez wrote: Nice write-up ![]() The pre-summer period for next year looks quite solid, I can see quite a few $100m grossers but likely many of these could finish in the $90m area. At this stage: Book of Eli - $75m Edge of Darkness - $110m Valentine's Day - $118m The Wolfman - $91m Shutter Island - $105m Alice in Wonderland - $165m Clash of the Titans - $159m How to Train Your Dragon - $100m Date Night - $86m Others that could break out - Dear John, Kick Ass and The Bounty Hunter. ![]() Summarizing my predictions at this stage, rounded to the nearest multiple of 5 Book of Eli $75m Edge of Darkness $115m Valentine's Day $120m The Wolfman $95m Shutter Island $65m Alice in Wonderland $140m Clash of the Titans $115m How to Train Your Dragon $165m Date Night $65m |
Author: | Kris K [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:20 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 100m hits before Iron Man 2 hits in 2010 |
I don't think Wolfman will do that much, i'd say 50-60 max. Dear John has no chance at $100M either. And that Mel Gibson thriller looks to generic imo. |
Author: | Kris K [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:36 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 100m hits before Iron Man 2 hits in 2010 |
BK wrote: 2. Edge of Darkness 29th Jan I didn't believe it myself until I saw half of the trailer, stopping myself because it seemed the trailer would give away everything. However it does look like this year's Taken and Mel Gibson has been a solid draw and hasn't had a movie in years, last directing 4 years ago by 2010 too. This looks good for 100m+ Edge of Darkness has a disadvantage against Taken. Taken was rated PG:13. Edge of Darkness just got rated R. |
Author: | BK [ Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:50 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 100m hits before Iron Man 2 hits in 2010 |
^ It still looks good and anyway Taken should've been rated R and of course there's the proof R rated movies do well. Plus it doesn't look generic, funny you should say though, since most of your horror remakes look generic. To each his own anyway. |
Author: | Kris K [ Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:48 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 100m hits before Iron Man 2 hits in 2010 |
Yep. It just doesn't stand out at all. If Steven Segal was in it, it would go DTV. |
Author: | Dr. Lecter [ Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:15 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 100m hits before Iron Man 2 hits in 2010 |
Kris K wrote: If Steven Segal was in it, it would go DTV. Doesn't the same absolutely apply to Taken? |
Author: | BK [ Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:16 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 100m hits before Iron Man 2 hits in 2010 |
EPIC trailer for DRAGON released. 200m looks easy now! Looks like a Panda!!!!! |
Author: | MARVEL_ROCKS [ Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:29 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 100m hits before Iron Man 2 hits in 2010 |
There are lots of movies that have potential to gross 100+million before IM2. But there are only 2 movies that can crack 200M before IM2. Alice in Wonderland How to train dragon |
Author: | Dr. Lecter [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:49 pm ] |
Post subject: | How many $100+ million grossers before the summer? |
I think last year we had the most $100+ million films released before May ever...could we beat that achievement this year, though? The release schedule certainly looks quite strong. Last year we had before May - Paul Blart: Mall Cop, Taken, Watchmen, Monsters Vs. Aliens and Fast and Furious. $100+ million potentials: January: Edge of Darkness February: Valentine's Day Percy Jackson & The Olympians: The Lightning Thief Shutter Island March: Alice in Wonderland Clash of the Titans How to Train Your Dragon The Bounty Hunter April: Date Night Kick-Ass A Nightmare on Elm Street Alice in Wonderland, Valentine's Day and How to Train Your Dragon are locks. Clash of the Titans is a near-lock. Two more need to make it for a new record. I think Date Night will certainly make it and two of Shutter Island, Kick-Ass or Edge of Darkness will as well. So I expect seven in total and a new record to happen! |
Author: | O [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:30 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: How many $100+ million grossers before the summer? |
Wolfman has a small chance though its slim. Bounty Hunter looks like it could do $100 m as well. I also won't count out The Last Song. Miley Cyrus was able to do $80 m with the Hannah Montana movie. While this won't pull in all of those audiences, it will pull in a fair amount. Add in a popular novel and there's a chance. The Back Up Plan with J. Lo could also pull a surprise. It's been 5 years since J. Lo's opened a film wide, but she has quite the following. Having Mother's Day in its 4th/5th weekend will certainly help out its legs. The best chance imo for a surprise is Wall Street 2. The original won Michael Douglas an Oscar. While it's been 23 years since the original, I see $150 m potential for this. Shia has some box office pull as well and this will really be a multi-generational film imo. It will be a pop culture phenom considering the nostalgia of the first one and the considering how much banks have been in the news over the last year. It will be huge imo. |
Author: | Dr. Lecter [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:34 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: How many $100+ million grossers before the summer? |
I added The Bounter Hunter, though I don't see it making it. The Last Song will probably be a 17 Again-like performer at best. The Wolfman's shot is slim because of the R-rating and a crowded marketplace. The Back-Up Plan is distributed by CBS...I really don't see such a newcomer studio getting a $100+ million hit already with a fiom like this. Wall Street is really an uknown...there isn't even a trailer out yet. |
Author: | O [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:43 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: How many $100+ million grossers before the summer? |
The early pictures of the cast look great. Watching the news, half of it seems to be bank related. I have a hard time not seeing this break out, especially in the smack of April (tax season!!!) and with a lighter month than the summer. It's Michael Douglas' most iconic role. Shia's follow up to IJ4, Eagle Eye, and Transformers 2. With nostalgic appeal for older audiences, appeal from younger audiences with Shia, and the sheer pop culture feel to it, I think we're looking at a breakout performance for it. It could be one of the most timely movies released this year. It will get ALOT of press coverage considering the 23 years in between films and the relevance of the film today. I'm more and more convinced that its headed for a blockbuster run. At the very least, I see it doubling the original film's total tally, though I think $150 m potential is there. |
Author: | Dil [ Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:01 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: How many $100+ million grossers before the summer? |
So no love for Hot Tub Time Machine Huh ? I think this movie will be one of the first real suprises of 2010. I heard it's been testing for months and all the screening responses are through the roof. Plus MGM is really ramping up the marketing campaign because I just saw a t.v spot last night and this movie is still two months away. I have a feeling the buzz is going to be staggering in the next couple of months. |
Author: | BK [ Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:38 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: How many $100+ million grossers before the summer? |
Um.... http://www.worldofkj.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=54304&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=100m+hits+before+Iron+Man+2+hits |
Author: | MadGez [ Sat Jan 23, 2010 8:25 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: How many $100+ million grossers before the summer? |
I think the March films (Clash, Alice and Dragon) are locks. Of the rest Valentine's Day, Edge of Darkness and Percy Jackson are likely. Wall Street 2 has potential for the reasons O mentioned. Though $70m+ would still be great for it. |
Author: | 2001 [ Sat Jan 23, 2010 2:06 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 100m hits before Iron Man 2 hits in 2010 |
We're certainly up for a huge pre-summer The locks Alice in Wonderland - 220m Clash of the Titans - 200m How to Train Your Dragon - 150m Valentine's Day - 145m Eli, Edge of Darkness, Percy Jackson, Shutter Island and Date Night should all get in the 85m-125m range. Wolfman, Bounty Hunter, Wall Street 2, and Elm Street will gross at least 70m. I'm thinking Date Night doing 100m+ as well, and one of EoD/Percy Jackson/Wall Street making it creating a new record. |
Author: | Gopher [ Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:13 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: How many $100+ million grossers before the summer? |
wrongturn687 wrote: So no love for Hot Tub Time Machine Huh ? I think this movie will be one of the first real suprises of 2010. I heard it's been testing for months and all the screening responses are through the roof. Plus MGM is really ramping up the marketing campaign because I just saw a t.v spot last night and this movie is still two months away. I have a feeling the buzz is going to be staggering in the next couple of months. |
Author: | BK [ Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:33 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 100m hits before Iron Man 2 hits in 2010 |
Hot Time Tub Machine has prospects or at least I thought so before. Have you seen the trailer? I'm not sure if there's a red band going out but the one that's been released is horrid. The jokes are not funny, there's too much slapstick and it looks like one of those comedies that try too hard. This is not The Hangover. At this point it's more likely to be under 10m than anything else. And testing really means nothing, I'm pretty sure there have been movies that were tested badly and did well and vice versa. |
Author: | MadGez [ Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:16 am ] |
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Yeah Hot Time Tub Machine looks like it could be more of a cult hit than a mainstream one but if it can strike a bit of a Superbad/Hangover chord it could do well. |
Author: | Dr. Lecter [ Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:51 pm ] |
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Hot Time Tub Machine looks to me like a Role Models/I Love You, Man-like performer. |
Author: | O [ Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:52 pm ] |
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I'm going to say Eli has an 80% chance now of $100 m. It only needs a 3.23 multiplier! |
Author: | Jack Sparrow [ Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:58 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 100m hits before Iron Man 2 hits in 2010 |
I think so ELI will be the first 100M for 2010 though. It is already 62M and will gain on Legion for the rest of the week. Which would make place it somewhere near 70M and with a modest 10M next weekend I think so it will cross the golden line in the coming weekends ![]() |
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