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Nazgul9 wrote:

Am i wrong in thinking this could be big ni Japan? The design of the world has somewhat of that aesthethic sensibility the japanese seem to dig, imho.

Nazgul9 wrote:

I'm at a loss of words... :tears:

Mesjarch wrote:

I have no idea how it will do. It can be huge or it could be a flop.

Archangel wrote:

Mesjarch wrote:

I have no idea how it will do. It can be huge or it could be a flop.

It has a higher chance to excel than flop i think. The sci-fi and disaster themes plays better in Japan than pre-history (King Kong).

War of the Worlds afterall, as bad as it is, made more than $60m in Japan. Artificial Intelligence with Spielberg's name made more than $100m.

I see Avatar grossing at least $80m in the Christmas season, normally a very big season with almost every movie doing well. The Potters have opened over this timeframe before so to have Nemo and Monority Report both $100m+ grossers...

Real prediction is $120m-$140m with Cameron's name and a great release date. It's closest tracking partner is probably Minority Report.

Jiffy208 wrote:

Archangel wrote:

Mesjarch wrote:

I have no idea how it will do. It can be huge or it could be a flop.

BOM has Minority Report as grossing $42m in Japan?

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?pa ... report.htm

I also thought that A.I. grossed something like $70m-80m, rather than $100m+.

Archangel wrote:

Top movies in Japan....the ones highlighted have a sci-fi element.

Spirited Away $234,000,000
Titanic $219,500,000 (16.8m adms.)
Hauru No Ugoku Shiro (Howl’s Moving Castle) - $188m
Harry Potter 1: PS - $170,100,000
Bayside Shakedown 2 $164.45m (12.7m adms.)
Ponyo On The Cliff By The Sea (2008) - $164,241,290
Harry Potter 2: COS - $164m
Princess Mononoke $156,000,000
E.T. $145,000,000
Armageddon $140,000,000
The Last Samurai – $133,000,000 (13.7b Yen)
Harry Potter 3: POA - $131m (13.5b Yen)
Jurassic Park 1 - $125,500,000
The Phantom Menace - $109,905,784 (12.7b Yen)
Finding Nemo - $106.8m (11b Yen)
Matrix Reloaded $104.3m
Lord Of The Rings: ROTK - $100.2m (10.3b Yen)
Independence Day $92,000,000
Harry Potter 4: GOF - $91.5m
Pirates Of The Caribbean 3: At World’s End - $91,119,039
Pirates Of The Caribbean 2: Dead Man’s Chest - $88m
Terminator 2 $87,000,000
Rookies (2009) - $85,134,450 (10)
Back to the Future 2 $83,600,000
Mission Impossible 2 - $82,900,000
Star Wars 3: ROTS - $82,698,529
Crying Out For Love - $82.5m
Harry Potter 5: OOTP - $80,564,009
Monsters, Inc. $79,400,000
The Da Vinci Code - $79,343,641 (9.05bn Yen)
Artificial Intelligence - $79,300,000
Star Wars 2: AOTC - $78,182,528
Terminator 3: Rise Of The Machines - $77.7m
Jaws - $76,000,000
Lord Of The Rings: TTT - $74.9m
Hero (2007) - $73,109,846
Spider-man - $73m
The Matrix $71,000,000

KrissyKins wrote:

Plus, i think UK was Titanics biggest international market??

yitzy wrote:

Archangel wrote:

Where did you get the numbers for T2 and Armaggedon?
Over on BOM tyrannyreborn has posted many all time charts, including Japan:
http://boxofficemojo.com/forums/viewtopic.htm?t=78302
He is missing those two movies, so if you can help him update his chart...
(In any case those are amazing charts. I suppose you may also have some similar ones?

)

Bodrul wrote:

KrissyKins wrote:

Plus, i think UK was Titanics biggest international market??

nah that was japan i think

yitzy wrote:

Archangel wrote:

)

Quote:

All-Time Top 20 in the United Kingdom

1. Mamma Mia! - $132,342,643
2. Titanic - $114,063,718

Box wrote:

Quote:

All-Time Top 20 in the United Kingdom

1. Mamma Mia! - $132,342,643
2. Titanic - $114,063,718

Jiffy208 wrote:

Wow. That list he has going is really awesome and informative. Looks pretty accurate for the most part, too.

Author:	Archangel [ Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:16 am ]
Post subject:	Avatar (INTL.) - $2,751.7bn (#1) WW
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Author:	Nazgul9 [ Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:33 am ]
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I'm at a loss of words...

Author:	JURiNG [ Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:00 am ]
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This will be the first movie showing in 3D in Egypt. It will be big.

Author:	Nazgul9 [ Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:12 am ]
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Am i wrong in thinking this could be big ni Japan? The design of the world has somewhat of that aesthethic sensibility the japanese seem to dig, imho.

Author:	Mesjarch [ Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:45 pm ]
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I have no idea how it will do. It can be huge or it could be a flop.

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Author:	Nazgul9 [ Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:53 pm ]
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Or somewhere in-between.

Author:	Box [ Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:54 pm ]
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Nazgul9 wrote: Am i wrong in thinking this could be big ni Japan? The design of the world has somewhat of that aesthethic sensibility the japanese seem to dig, imho. "From the Director of Titanic" Put that in the trailer, and $100m+ is guaranteed in Japan.

Author:	Archangel [ Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:17 pm ]
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Nazgul9 wrote: I'm at a loss of words... ,

Author:	Archangel [ Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:21 pm ]
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Mesjarch wrote: I have no idea how it will do. It can be huge or it could be a flop. It has a higher chance to excel than flop i think. The sci-fi and disaster themes plays better in Japan than pre-history (King Kong). War of the Worlds afterall, as bad as it is, made more than $60m in Japan. Artificial Intelligence with Spielberg's name made more than $100m. I see Avatar grossing at least $80m in the Christmas season, normally a very big season with almost every movie doing well. The Potters have opened over this timeframe before so to have Nemo and Monority Report both $100m+ grossers... Real prediction is $120m-$140m with Cameron's name and a great release date. It's closest tracking partner is probably Minority Report.

Author:	Jiffy [ Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:25 pm ]
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Archangel wrote: Mesjarch wrote: I have no idea how it will do. It can be huge or it could be a flop. It has a higher chance to excel than flop i think. The sci-fi and disaster themes plays better in Japan than pre-history (King Kong). War of the Worlds afterall, as bad as it is, made more than $60m in Japan. Artificial Intelligence with Spielberg's name made more than $100m. I see Avatar grossing at least $80m in the Christmas season, normally a very big season with almost every movie doing well. The Potters have opened over this timeframe before so to have Nemo and Monority Report both $100m+ grossers... Real prediction is $120m-$140m with Cameron's name and a great release date. It's closest tracking partner is probably Minority Report. BOM has Minority Report as grossing $42m in Japan? http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?pa ... report.htm I also thought that A.I. grossed something like $70m-80m, rather than $100m+.

Author:	Archangel [ Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:34 pm ]
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Jiffy208 wrote: Archangel wrote: Mesjarch wrote: I have no idea how it will do. It can be huge or it could be a flop. It has a higher chance to excel than flop i think. The sci-fi and disaster themes plays better in Japan than pre-history (King Kong). War of the Worlds afterall, as bad as it is, made more than $60m in Japan. Artificial Intelligence with Spielberg's name made more than $100m. I see Avatar grossing at least $80m in the Christmas season, normally a very big season with almost every movie doing well. The Potters have opened over this timeframe before so to have Nemo and Monority Report both $100m+ grossers... Real prediction is $120m-$140m with Cameron's name and a great release date. It's closest tracking partner is probably Minority Report. BOM has Minority Report as grossing $42m in Japan? http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?pa ... report.htm I also thought that A.I. grossed something like $70m-80m, rather than $100m+. Oh I'm sorry, mistaken Minority Report for The Last Samurai You may be right about AI, it was very high though.

Author:	Archangel [ Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:08 am ]
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Top movies in Japan....the ones highlighted have a sci-fi element. Spirited Away $234,000,000 Titanic $219,500,000 (16.8m adms.) Hauru No Ugoku Shiro (Howl’s Moving Castle) - $188m Harry Potter 1: PS - $170,100,000 Bayside Shakedown 2 $164.45m (12.7m adms.) Ponyo On The Cliff By The Sea (2008) - $164,241,290 Harry Potter 2: COS - $164m Princess Mononoke $156,000,000 E.T. $145,000,000 Armageddon $140,000,000 The Last Samurai – $133,000,000 (13.7b Yen) Harry Potter 3: POA - $131m (13.5b Yen) Jurassic Park 1 - $125,500,000 The Phantom Menace - $109,905,784 (12.7b Yen) Finding Nemo - $106.8m (11b Yen) Matrix Reloaded $104.3m Lord Of The Rings: ROTK - $100.2m (10.3b Yen) Independence Day $92,000,000 Harry Potter 4: GOF - $91.5m Pirates Of The Caribbean 3: At World’s End - $91,119,039 Pirates Of The Caribbean 2: Dead Man’s Chest - $88m Terminator 2 $87,000,000 Rookies (2009) - $85,134,450 (10) Back to the Future 2 $83,600,000 Mission Impossible 2 - $82,900,000 Star Wars 3: ROTS - $82,698,529 Crying Out For Love - $82.5m Harry Potter 5: OOTP - $80,564,009 Monsters, Inc. $79,400,000 The Da Vinci Code - $79,343,641 (9.05bn Yen) Artificial Intelligence - $79,300,000 Star Wars 2: AOTC - $78,182,528 Terminator 3: Rise Of The Machines - $77.7m Jaws - $76,000,000 Lord Of The Rings: TTT - $74.9m Hero (2007) - $73,109,846 Spider-man - $73m The Matrix $71,000,000

Author:	yitzy [ Sun Aug 09, 2009 4:16 am ]
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Archangel wrote: Top movies in Japan....the ones highlighted have a sci-fi element. Spirited Away $234,000,000 Titanic $219,500,000 (16.8m adms.) Hauru No Ugoku Shiro (Howl’s Moving Castle) - $188m Harry Potter 1: PS - $170,100,000 Bayside Shakedown 2 $164.45m (12.7m adms.) Ponyo On The Cliff By The Sea (2008) - $164,241,290 Harry Potter 2: COS - $164m Princess Mononoke $156,000,000 E.T. $145,000,000 Armageddon $140,000,000 The Last Samurai – $133,000,000 (13.7b Yen) Harry Potter 3: POA - $131m (13.5b Yen) Jurassic Park 1 - $125,500,000 The Phantom Menace - $109,905,784 (12.7b Yen) Finding Nemo - $106.8m (11b Yen) Matrix Reloaded $104.3m Lord Of The Rings: ROTK - $100.2m (10.3b Yen) Independence Day $92,000,000 Harry Potter 4: GOF - $91.5m Pirates Of The Caribbean 3: At World’s End - $91,119,039 Pirates Of The Caribbean 2: Dead Man’s Chest - $88m Terminator 2 $87,000,000 Rookies (2009) - $85,134,450 (10) Back to the Future 2 $83,600,000 Mission Impossible 2 - $82,900,000 Star Wars 3: ROTS - $82,698,529 Crying Out For Love - $82.5m Harry Potter 5: OOTP - $80,564,009 Monsters, Inc. $79,400,000 The Da Vinci Code - $79,343,641 (9.05bn Yen) Artificial Intelligence - $79,300,000 Star Wars 2: AOTC - $78,182,528 Terminator 3: Rise Of The Machines - $77.7m Jaws - $76,000,000 Lord Of The Rings: TTT - $74.9m Hero (2007) - $73,109,846 Spider-man - $73m The Matrix $71,000,000 Where did you get the numbers for T2 and Armaggedon? Over on BOM tyrannyreborn has posted many all time charts, including Japan: http://boxofficemojo.com/forums/viewtopic.htm?t=78302 He is missing those two movies, so if you can help him update his chart... (In any case those are amazing charts. I suppose you may also have some similar ones? )

Author:	Tuukka [ Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:23 am ]
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While one might expect scifi and robot movies to do really well in Japan, on average they don't really do any better there than the rest of the world. And American movies have been doing pretty weak in Japan in general over the last couple of years. For some reason their market has become heavily dependent on local movies. It's one of the really strange developments in the the international market, I can't figure out why it has happened.

Author:	Loyal [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:03 am ]
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2 words! TITANIC, THE MUSICAL! ok 3 words.

Author:	Archangel [ Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:14 pm ]
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1 Titanic Par. $1,842.9 $600.8 32.6% $1,242.1 67.4% 1997 2 The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King NL $1,119.1 $377.0 33.7% $742.1 66.3% 2003 3 Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest BV $1,066.2 $423.3 39.7% $642.9 60.3% 2006 4 The Dark Knight WB $1,001.9 $533.3 53.2% $468.6 46.8% 2008 5 Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone WB $974.7 $317.6 32.6% $657.2 67.4% 2001 6 Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End BV $961.0 $309.4 32.2% $651.6 67.8% 2007 7 Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix WB $938.2 $292.0 31.1% $646.2 68.9% 2007 8 The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers NL $925.3 $341.8 36.9% $583.5 63.1% 2002^ 9 Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace Fox $924.3 $431.1 46.6% $493.2 53.4% 1999 10 Shrek 2 DW $919.8 $441.2 48.0% $478.6 52.0% 2004 11 Jurassic Park Uni. $914.7 $357.1 39.0% $557.6 61.0% 1993 12 Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire WB $895.9 $290.0 32.4% $605.9 67.6% 2005 13 Spider-Man 3 Sony $890.9 $336.5 37.8% $554.3 62.2% 2007 14 Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince WB $886.0 $290.2 32.8% $595.8 67.2% 2009 15 Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets WB $878.6 $262.0 29.8% $616.7 70.2% 2002 16 The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring NL $870.8 $314.8 36.1% $556.0 63.9% 2001^ 17 Finding Nemo BV $864.6 $339.7 39.3% $524.9 60.7% 2003 18 Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith Fox $848.8 $380.3 44.8% $468.5 55.2% 2005 19 Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen P/DW $826.6 $398.4 48.2% $428.1 51.8% 2009 20 Spider-Man Sony $821.7 $403.7 49.1% $418.0 50.9% 2002 21 Independence Day Fox $817.4 $306.2 37.5% $511.2 62.5% 1996 22 Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs Fox $805.5 $192.4 23.9% $613.1 76.1% 2009 23 Shrek the Third P/DW $799.0 $322.7 40.4% $476.2 59.6% 2007 24 Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban WB $795.6 $249.5 31.4% $546.1 68.6% 2004 25 E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial Uni. $792.9 $435.1 54.9% $357.8 45.1% 1982^ -- Avatar is the only movie left with the potential to crack the Top 3 Worldwide this year, it's going to be very difficult...with Transformers 2 being it's easiest (out of the 3) to crack. Potter is headed for a gross somewhere around $925m and which challenge TTT for the #8 position Worldwide. Ice Age 3 looks to land somewhere between Finding Nemo and may challenge FOTR for the number 16 spot on the Worldwide charts. $870m or threabouts. Transformers 2 will be overtaken by Ice Age 3, so will move down a spot to #20, that's where it'll stay with a couple of million left in its run. Will probably finish with $830m. I still have Avatar at around $300m Domestic + $450m+ worldwide for $750m....though if it explodes in countries like Japan, Russia, China....this may well go north of $500m for a worldwide gross above $800m. Christmas/NY will help.

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Author:	Kris K [ Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:26 am ]
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Eh, Avatar will be huge in the UK. We are suckers for 3-D at the moment. My Bloody Valentine 3-D was the biggest horror hit in years here in January. Plus, i think UK was Titanics biggest international market?? I'm actually hyped up for this film. I can't wait to see a trailer though. August 21st someone said?

Author:	Bodrul [ Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:49 am ]
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KrissyKins wrote: Plus, i think UK was Titanics biggest international market?? nah that was japan i think

Author:	Archangel [ Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:00 pm ]
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yitzy wrote: Archangel wrote: Top movies in Japan....the ones highlighted have a sci-fi element. Spirited Away $234,000,000 Titanic $219,500,000 (16.8m adms.) Hauru No Ugoku Shiro (Howl’s Moving Castle) - $188m Harry Potter 1: PS - $170,100,000 Bayside Shakedown 2 $164.45m (12.7m adms.) Ponyo On The Cliff By The Sea (2008) - $164,241,290 Harry Potter 2: COS - $164m Princess Mononoke $156,000,000 E.T. $145,000,000 Armageddon $140,000,000 The Last Samurai – $133,000,000 (13.7b Yen) Harry Potter 3: POA - $131m (13.5b Yen) Jurassic Park 1 - $125,500,000 The Phantom Menace - $109,905,784 (12.7b Yen) Finding Nemo - $106.8m (11b Yen) Matrix Reloaded $104.3m Lord Of The Rings: ROTK - $100.2m (10.3b Yen) Independence Day $92,000,000 Harry Potter 4: GOF - $91.5m Pirates Of The Caribbean 3: At World’s End - $91,119,039 Pirates Of The Caribbean 2: Dead Man’s Chest - $88m Terminator 2 $87,000,000 Rookies (2009) - $85,134,450 (10) Back to the Future 2 $83,600,000 Mission Impossible 2 - $82,900,000 Star Wars 3: ROTS - $82,698,529 Crying Out For Love - $82.5m Harry Potter 5: OOTP - $80,564,009 Monsters, Inc. $79,400,000 The Da Vinci Code - $79,343,641 (9.05bn Yen) Artificial Intelligence - $79,300,000 Star Wars 2: AOTC - $78,182,528 Terminator 3: Rise Of The Machines - $77.7m Jaws - $76,000,000 Lord Of The Rings: TTT - $74.9m Hero (2007) - $73,109,846 Spider-man - $73m The Matrix $71,000,000 Where did you get the numbers for T2 and Armaggedon? Over on BOM tyrannyreborn has posted many all time charts, including Japan: http://boxofficemojo.com/forums/viewtopic.htm?t=78302 He is missing those two movies, so if you can help him update his chart... (In any case those are amazing charts. I suppose you may also have some similar ones? ) I do for some of the major markets....you can pass the figures on to tyrannyreborn for me....i no longer remember my account on BOM. Tyrannyreborn used to post on WOKJ, though I think he left to chase bigger waters

Author:	Archangel [ Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:02 pm ]
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Bodrul wrote: KrissyKins wrote: Plus, i think UK was Titanics biggest international market?? nah that was japan i think It's not even Top 3 Japan 12/20/97 $201,389,568 Germany 1/8/98 $129,974,110 France and Algeria, Monaco, Morocco and Tunisia 1/7/98 $129,127,181 United Kingdom and Ireland and Malta 1/23/98 $114,063,718 Brazil 1/16/98 $70,460,123 Italy 1/16/98 $67,953,353

Author:	Jiffy [ Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:07 pm ]
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yitzy wrote: Archangel wrote: Top movies in Japan....the ones highlighted have a sci-fi element. Spirited Away $234,000,000 Titanic $219,500,000 (16.8m adms.) Hauru No Ugoku Shiro (Howl’s Moving Castle) - $188m Harry Potter 1: PS - $170,100,000 Bayside Shakedown 2 $164.45m (12.7m adms.) Ponyo On The Cliff By The Sea (2008) - $164,241,290 Harry Potter 2: COS - $164m Princess Mononoke $156,000,000 E.T. $145,000,000 Armageddon $140,000,000 The Last Samurai – $133,000,000 (13.7b Yen) Harry Potter 3: POA - $131m (13.5b Yen) Jurassic Park 1 - $125,500,000 The Phantom Menace - $109,905,784 (12.7b Yen) Finding Nemo - $106.8m (11b Yen) Matrix Reloaded $104.3m Lord Of The Rings: ROTK - $100.2m (10.3b Yen) Independence Day $92,000,000 Harry Potter 4: GOF - $91.5m Pirates Of The Caribbean 3: At World’s End - $91,119,039 Pirates Of The Caribbean 2: Dead Man’s Chest - $88m Terminator 2 $87,000,000 Rookies (2009) - $85,134,450 (10) Back to the Future 2 $83,600,000 Mission Impossible 2 - $82,900,000 Star Wars 3: ROTS - $82,698,529 Crying Out For Love - $82.5m Harry Potter 5: OOTP - $80,564,009 Monsters, Inc. $79,400,000 The Da Vinci Code - $79,343,641 (9.05bn Yen) Artificial Intelligence - $79,300,000 Star Wars 2: AOTC - $78,182,528 Terminator 3: Rise Of The Machines - $77.7m Jaws - $76,000,000 Lord Of The Rings: TTT - $74.9m Hero (2007) - $73,109,846 Spider-man - $73m The Matrix $71,000,000 Where did you get the numbers for T2 and Armaggedon? Over on BOM tyrannyreborn has posted many all time charts, including Japan: http://boxofficemojo.com/forums/viewtopic.htm?t=78302 He is missing those two movies, so if you can help him update his chart... (In any case those are amazing charts. I suppose you may also have some similar ones? ) Wow. That list he has going is really awesome and informative. Looks pretty accurate for the most part, too.

Author:	Corpse [ Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:22 pm ]
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Romania has the most bizare top 20 of them all.

Author:	Box [ Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:24 pm ]
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Quote: All-Time Top 20 in the United Kingdom 1. Mamma Mia! - $132,342,643 2. Titanic - $114,063,718

Author:	Archangel [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:39 am ]
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Box wrote: Quote: All-Time Top 20 in the United Kingdom 1. Mamma Mia! - $132,342,643 2. Titanic - $114,063,718 Travesty I tell yah

Author:	Archangel [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:36 am ]
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Jiffy208 wrote: Wow. That list he has going is really awesome and informative. Looks pretty accurate for the most part, too. I know, it's fantastic...good resource.