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Barrabás
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Re: Production Budgets
Mess at that King Arthur budget. A 'Robin Hood' esque performance was probably the ceiling anyway, and they give it $175m?! I'm not surprised though, I used to work for WB marketing and there are some SERIOUS issues there.
I wonder how much Alien costs. Prometheus looked more expensive than its $130m budget.
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Algren
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Re: Production Budgets
It's got to be the biggest flop of the year. Though non-US markets will obviously cushion the blow for Warner Bros.
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: Production Budgets
Both movies have high budget. Snatched wasn't even marketed a few weeks back and not sure why it costs so much.
KA was sure to have this high budget but its surely not getting that money back a definite contender for biggest money-loser of the year.
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Thu May 11, 2017 3:18 am |
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Algren
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Re: Production Budgets
$42m is only huge for Snatched in hindsight. But you couldn't blame Fox for thinking it would be another (albeit bite-size version of) Bad Moms or Trainwreck. Point is that there is an audience for these females-being-bad movies, and so $42m ain't much to try and make it a good film.
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Thu May 11, 2017 3:29 am |
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: Production Budgets
Agree its big number only in the hindsight but these kind of comedies generally cost $20m-$25m and Snatched doesn't look expensive compared to rest of summer comedy fares.
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Thu May 11, 2017 3:33 am |
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Algren
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Re: Production Budgets
Trainwreck cost $35m and The Heat cost $43m.
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mark66
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Re: Production Budgets
THR:
$230m POTC5
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Thu May 11, 2017 5:22 am |
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Algren
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Re: Production Budgets
Yeah, yeah, I know, it will make money overseas and with merchandise, but still....that's an insane budget!
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Thu May 11, 2017 5:27 am |
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: Production Budgets
mark66 wrote: THR:
$230m POTC5 I thought Disney will finally cut some budget for this movie. Looks like it won't and they have money to throw anyways.
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stuffp
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Re: Production Budgets
Didn't the last one cost +300m? Pretty hefty cut I'd say.
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Thu May 11, 2017 9:33 am |
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: Production Budgets
$230m is not called a budget cut specially after how poor Alice performed last year in the same spot.
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SolC9
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Re: Production Budgets
Comparing it to Alice 2 doesn't work that well because Pirates 5 is probably going to make more over the 4 Day Memorial Day weekend than Alice did total, domestically at least. Nobody asked for Alice 2. AiW was such a hit mainly because it was the first big 3D movie after Avatar. That's why there was such a dramatic dropoff for Alice 2. And while nobody asked for Pirates 5 either and will also drop off from the last, it's based on a series with a more solid fanbase and will very likely be profitable WW even with a 230M production.
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stuffp
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Re: Production Budgets
I'd say that for much less than $230m they wouldn't even have been able to make a worthy Pirates film.
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Rolling Thunder
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Re: Production Budgets
stuffp wrote: I'd say that for much less than $230m they wouldn't even have been able to make a worthy Pirates film. They would if the principal cast was all onboard with reduced pay.
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: Production Budgets
While I do think that Pirate should do well in OS markets I would not be guaranteed on the OS success yet. Alice was also HUGE in OS markets but the drop was HUGE, plus from what I remember last Pirates also benefited from the 3D boom so it could see a big drop again. I am not saying its guaranteed to fail but it could happen so they could have probably have a tighter budget.
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Thu May 11, 2017 11:44 am |
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: Production Budgets
Rolling Thunder wrote: stuffp wrote: I'd say that for much less than $230m they wouldn't even have been able to make a worthy Pirates film. They would if the principal cast was all onboard with reduced pay. Absolutely I don't why the principal cast would be paid higher. Its not Orlando Bloom or even Depp's property have increased beside this series. Knightley I feel have entered more in mainstream but she is most likely for a cameo here. If they want they could still make a good Pirates movie with a tighter budget and I am not saying $150m here but another $50m lesser for $180m should have been great. $180m is not a small budget by any means.
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Algren
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Re: Production Budgets
stuffp wrote: Didn't the last one cost +300m? Pretty hefty cut I'd say. With marketing, yes. But without, its budget was $250m. Cutting just $20m isn't going to help them much. They should have got this one down to $150m. They shouldn't be paying Depp anything by now - he's proven to not be a draw. And the sets and boats are already all built. I honestly do not know what the fuck they are spending $230m on!
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Biggestgeekever
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Re: Production Budgets
Pirates 4 was reported at release to have a budget of $250M, but Forbes reported in 2014 that it cost $410.6M. https://www.forbes.com/sites/csylt/2014 ... 00aa15364f
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Thu May 11, 2017 10:50 pm |
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Algren
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Re: Production Budgets
So let's wait until 2019 when Forbes can report that Pirates 5 actually cost $390m.
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The Dark Shape
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Re: Production Budgets
PIRATES 5 was done shooting before ALICE 2 came out.
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mark66
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Re: Production Budgets
Ridley Scott: A film like Alien: Covenant would normally be 100 days; we did it in 74. We made it for $111m, as opposed to $180m or $260m. It’s insane the amount of money spent. When you’re spending $250m on a movie, you should have been fired a year ago. https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/m ... unner-2049
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Dil
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Re: Production Budgets
Great budget for Alien: Covenant and I figured it didn't cost as much as Prometheus since that looked way more expensive. It should be quite profitable for the studio with OS numbers.
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: Production Budgets
That is indeed decent but AC is cheap to look at throughout, plus Prometheus which looked way more expensive was also made for a decent $130m. I don't see Fox giving huge budget for Covenant after the last one which did great but didn't light up the BO.
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mark66
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THR:
$97m ALIEN: C (but I think Ridley knows better) $22m WIMPY KID 4 $10m EVERYTHING
$125m THE MUMMY
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: Production Budgets
Maybe they had some tax benefits or something? I don't know why they would report it lower officially when they spent more and that Ridley already gave out that number.
Not bad for Wimpy Kind and Everthingx2
The Mummy looks so cheap that this $125m budget looks expensive for it than it should for such a visual-effects driven movie. Atleast its cheaper than the debacle of Mummy 3.
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