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Author:  baumer72 [ Sat May 27, 2006 3:12 pm ]
Post subject:  X3's gigantic gross does not mean Superman will follow suit
I don't get all you Superman loonies. X3 has a built in fanbase. The second film was beloved by everyone. It had very strong dVD sales and this is Memorial weekend. All of these factors are in favour of X3. How does this translate to into high numbers for Superman? I don't think it does. The franchise is still 20 years old and the last really popular one was 25 yers ago. The loonies are licking their chops thinking that this is going to segue into huge dollars for Superman. Don't count on it. X3 marketed itself brilliantly as the last film, the last stand, the last time to see these people in action. This is brilliant. The marketing for Superman is lackluster and uninteresting. I believe that Superman will do fine, but certainly not anything more than a low 200. X3 will do that in about 10 days. Clearly the victor this summer is X3 over Superman. Bet on it. :tongue:
Author:  Box [ Sat May 27, 2006 3:16 pm ]
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X3's gigantic gross does not mean Superman will follow suit



I completely agree. Superman's opening weekend will be smaller than X3's 2-day gross, and its total might be less than X3's 7-day total. :sweat:
Author:  Joker's Thug #3 [ Sat May 27, 2006 3:33 pm ]
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No shite.
Author:  Shack [ Sat May 27, 2006 3:42 pm ]
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Duh.

:)

The fact that Superman got booed last night, proves that people just don't want this film.
Author:  Excel [ Sat May 27, 2006 3:49 pm ]
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by xmen fans.

not too many people from a public audience care about trailer enough to "boo" them.
Author:  Thegun [ Sat May 27, 2006 4:15 pm ]
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While I completely agree with you Baumer, I think its safe that it will pass Fantastic Four and Batman Begins at this point. I think that it may gross 60-70 opening weekend. However, with Pirates opening its following Wed, it will be hurt like T3 was with the original, though 4th of July may level it off all the same. I think anything over 250 million is wishful thinking. But I don't think 210 million is out of the question. The new trailer did get a lot more peoples attention.

But this is no Spidey or X2 that had the luxury of kicking off the summer. and Its not Batman Begins with its legs because Batman had the luxury of having no competition. Superman will unfortunately probably be good, but more or less hurt by the big hitter of Pirates. 210 million I think would be great though. and should not be deemed a disappointment even when looking at the budget.
Author:  Spidey [ Sat May 27, 2006 4:23 pm ]
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X-Men doing big will hurt Superman. Out of all the previews Superman got the worst reaction at my theater, will Snakes on a Plane got an amazing reaction of cheering and talking.
Author:  El Maskado [ Sat May 27, 2006 4:27 pm ]
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I dont know about the reaction for Snakes on the Plane,it did get a reaction but I overhead someone say "What the hell was that?". Superman Returns trailer didnt play at all but it does seem like Ghost Rider did get a better reaction thatn Snakes at where I went which was surprising
As for SR, it will have to bring back faith to the comic book series like what BB did. Just because its been 20 years since the last one doesnt mean the hype will be as big as say having the first ever screen version adaptation
Author:  baumer72 [ Sat May 27, 2006 4:42 pm ]
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I don't think 200 mill is a disappointment either. I act ually think this is a risk bringing this film out. Its not like people were demanding another superman film. I want to see it, hell it's a summer film, and should be lots of fun. But that doesn't mean it is going to break records. It just seems that some have this delusional fantasy that Superman is going to swoop in with a massive haul. Not going to happen.
Author:  FILMO [ Sat May 27, 2006 4:43 pm ]
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Guess finally it will depend on the quality of Superman Returns.
Cmon Batman Begins was bashed to hell before it came out and voilà the quality was great and it showed some nice gross....and then you should not forget...


A lot of the fanbase came from the two other X-Men movies directed by Singer. Well it seems that he left a such good taste in peoples mind so that they even did go and see X3 after all that Ratner bashing. So why shouldnt he bring that taste and quality not to Superman.

I agree though that POTC2 will hurt Superman a lot but I still see the possibility for Supes to fly pass 250.
Author:  Thegun [ Sat May 27, 2006 5:04 pm ]
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FILMOre McGilmore wrote:
Guess finally it will depend on the quality of Superman Returns.
Cmon Batman Begins was bashed to hell before it came out and voilà the quality was great and it showed some nice gross....and then you should not forget...


A lot of the fanbase came from the two other X-Men movies directed by Singer. Well it seems that he left a such good taste in peoples mind so that they even did go and see X3 after all that Ratner bashing. So why shouldnt he bring that taste and quality not to Superman.

I agree though that POTC2 will hurt Superman a lot but I still see the possibility for Supes to fly pass 250.


Can we please stop bringin in Singer's fanbase. He really doesnt have one, maybe one that will result in 5 million more in gross. The majority of the people wont care, in fact, its not even mentioning his name in the trailers, because he is not a big name director outside of movie gurus like ourselves. Superman will depend merely on how good it looks. Since it looks decent to good, it should open a little more. The biggest problem with batman is that the marketing reallly sucked. Superman at least is doing a better job, and should be a lighter film for kids.
Author:  Thegun [ Sat May 27, 2006 5:07 pm ]
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I would say only 2 directors really have that importance factor, and it is Speilberg and maybe Tarantino. Peter Jackson is already falling off from his high horse, as is Shamylan. one other might be Cameron because it will be heavily hyped as the first film since Titanic. Other than that, directors can be used for quality, not numbers.
Author:  neo_wolf [ Sat May 27, 2006 5:11 pm ]
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You were wrong about DVC and you will be wrong about SR, this will look even worse than your LOTR TTT prediction.
Author:  baumer72 [ Sat May 27, 2006 5:13 pm ]
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neo_wolf wrote:
You were wrong about DVC and you will be wrong about SR, this will look even worse than your LOTR TTT prediction.


I am not wrong about DVC. It ain over yet. And nothing will be worse than my TTT prediction. :hahaha:
Author:  Jmart [ Sat May 27, 2006 5:27 pm ]
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Shack wrote:
Duh.

:)

The fact that Superman got booed last night, proves that people just don't want this film.


Was the entire audience you were with dressed up as the X-Men characters? Who boos at a trailer?

If Superman makes between 205-250 it will be considered a success. I think it'll finish just shy of 250, but I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up a bit higher thanks to the opener and the July 4th weekend (Even with POTC 2).
Author:  Excel [ Sat May 27, 2006 5:28 pm ]
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da vinci fell 64% from friday to friday.

it more then likely wont cross 200 million.
Author:  Joker's Thug #3 [ Sat May 27, 2006 5:29 pm ]
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Bret Ratner is the best wrote:
I dont know about the reaction for Snakes on the Plane,it did get a reaction but I overhead someone say "What the hell was that?". Superman Returns trailer didnt play at all but it does seem like Ghost Rider did get a better reaction thatn Snakes at where I went which was surprising
Because the crowd everyone is reporting these Snakes on a Plane UBER ORGASIM REACTIONS is the midnight geek patrol crowd that knows all about the hype surrounding this movie on the internet.
Author:  trixster [ Sat May 27, 2006 5:30 pm ]
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excel wrote:
da vinci fell 64% from friday to friday.

it more then likely wont cross 200 million.

It's much more likely to cross $200 million than Superman. ;)
Author:  Joker's Thug #3 [ Sat May 27, 2006 5:30 pm ]
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FILMOre McGilmore wrote:
Cmon Batman Begins was bashed to hell before it came out and voilà the quality was great and it showed some nice gross.


No, no it wasnt.
Author:  Excel [ Sat May 27, 2006 5:38 pm ]
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trixster wrote:
excel wrote:
da vinci fell 64% from friday to friday.

it more then likely wont cross 200 million.

It's much more likely to cross $200 million than Superman. ;)


:shades:


no its not...and im pretty sure even zinaling would agree with me.

people look. were all excited about xmens opening day...but ya know what? it really doesnt impact a movie a month away AT all.

boos at a trailer??? first off-who boos at a trailer except for a die hard fan? in total serious, NOBODY from a reg. movie going audfience cares about a trailer enough to "boo" it unless their a die hard fan, and the trailers for its compitition.


anybody who thinks xmens success will be bad/good for supermans gross is being stupid, cause the 2 have nothing to do with each other.
Author:  zingy [ Sat May 27, 2006 5:44 pm ]
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The Da Vinci Code will make $200 million total. It doesn't matter whether Superman has a "better shot" or not, because the former will make it.

As for Superman, I'm sticking with the $210-220 million total I've been predicting forever.
Author:  Excel [ Sat May 27, 2006 6:07 pm ]
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i dunon...da vinci will be at 140ish after the 4 day and will be falling hard.
Author:  roo [ Sat May 27, 2006 6:13 pm ]
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excel wrote:
by xmen fans.

not too many people from a public audience care about trailer enough to "boo" them.

But the public got more reaction out of the Snakes on a Plane trailer than Superman Returns at my showing of Xmen.
Author:  Rev [ Sat May 27, 2006 6:37 pm ]
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hahaha :tongue: another tardo thread to add to the list.
Author:  Jmart [ Sat May 27, 2006 6:42 pm ]
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andaroo.temp wrote:
excel wrote:
by xmen fans.

not too many people from a public audience care about trailer enough to "boo" them.

But the public got more reaction out of the Snakes on a Plane trailer than Superman Returns at my showing of Xmen.


Of course. It happened at my screening too, simply because the premise is so stupid it has to been seen.
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