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Author:  Libs [ Wed May 10, 2006 3:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Tuesday Numbers
1 MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE III $3,204,660 -9.3% $54,479,435
2 RV $602,128 +7.4% $32,073,303
3 UNITED 93 $464,575 -3.5% $21,138,085
4 AN AMERICAN HAUNTING $361,000 -12.8% $6,559,000
5 SILENT HILL $356,861 -1.6% $41,638,696
6 THE SENTINEL $275,356 +10.8% $31,460,068
7 STICK IT $258,499 -4.9% $18,464,496
8 ICE AGE: THE MELTDOWN $238,835 -2.2% $183,918,985
9 AKEELAH AND THE BEE $237,122 +7.9% $11,089,382
10 SCARY MOVIE 4 $201,192 -3.2% $84,053,790
11 HOOT $179,000 +4.1% $3,719,000

http://boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?s ... -09&p=.htm
Author:  Gulli [ Wed May 10, 2006 3:52 pm ]
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MI3 continues it's terminal decline. Pity
Author:  Cihan007x [ Wed May 10, 2006 4:07 pm ]
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Gullimont-Kyro wrote:
MI3 continues it's terminal decline. Pity


I think the numbers ok.

I first post here, I moved from Box office mojo, i am part of the Magnus Revolution
Author:  Anonymous [ Wed May 10, 2006 4:18 pm ]
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,194910,00.html

Cruise Crash Causes Paramount Panic

The real "failure to launch" of "Mission: Impossible III" at the box office has caused an immediate problem at Paramount Pictures.

Sources tell me that a catered lunch at the studio, planned ahead on Friday as a celebration, turned into a morbid affair. "Brad Grey and Rob Moore came to it, but no one spoke and eventually everyone left."

Apparently, reality set in faster in the Paramount executive suite than it did even among Cruise naysayers.

For one thing, weekend numbers — announced as estimates on Sunday — turned out to be slightly lower on Monday by almost a million bucks. The movie's real take was $47.7 million, not $48.6 million.

"You have to understand," says a source, "they sit around and try to decide what sounds better on Sunday. The $48 million sounded closer to 50. The 47 sounds more like 45."

You've got to feel for these people, though. Since Monday morning, every department at Paramount has been called on for immediate cost cutting, I'm told.

"Budget meetings are going on everywhere," says a source. "Everyone's being asked what they can do, and there's talk of layoffs again."

Why the sudden concern? On Monday night, "M: I3" may have become a self-fulfilling prophesy.

It made $3.5 million, off 72 percent from Sunday. That number must have had the Paramount prognosticators running around like earthquake experts.

You see, blockbusters generally do not drop so much from their first Sunday to Monday. Some examples: "Spider-Man 2" had a 57 percent drop, and "Batman Begins" had a 26 percent drop.

"War of the Worlds," Tom Cruise's last film, had only a 38 percent dip on its first Monday, but that was July 4 and a holiday. The following Monday it hung in there at 61 percent.

"They must be freaking out," says a source.

Indeed, the number-crunchers are going to be watching "M: I3" every day, maybe every hour this week to see where it's going.

Some astute TV viewers are already reporting seeing a new commercial that emphasizes Philip Seymour Hoffman as the villain Owen Davian.

If the numbers keep bottoming out as we head toward Friday, then Warner Bros. will be relieved. "Poseidon" might have a strong opening despite being awful.

And that's the irony here: "M: I3" is a terrific action film. Director J.J. Abrams did a great job, and the entire cast from Cruise right through to the team and various supporting players do a convincing job.

Cruise has several fantastic stunts that will take your breath away. It would be a shame if everyone waited to watch it at home on small screens.
Author:  El Maskado [ Wed May 10, 2006 4:19 pm ]
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Matt & Trey 1
Cruise 0
Author:  jb007 [ Wed May 10, 2006 4:32 pm ]
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The article is poorly written and by people who don't know what the heck they are talking about especially WRT Sunday to Monday Drop. BTW Those drops are incorrect for SM and BB.

Nevermind, this was a foxnews report.
Author:  Jiffy [ Wed May 10, 2006 4:47 pm ]
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Yeah, comparing MI:3's weekdays to films that played in June and July is ridiculous, the Tuesday drop is actually pretty good for it.
Author:  Dr. Lecter [ Wed May 10, 2006 4:50 pm ]
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jb007 wrote:
The article is poorly written and by people who don't know what the heck they are talking about especially WRT Sunday to Monday Drop. BTW Those drops are incorrect for SM and BB.

Nevermind, this was a foxnews report.


Hahaha, I agree, this is the most stupid article on box-office I have ever read. Even BKB has far more idea about box-office than these guys.
Author:  Anonymous [ Wed May 10, 2006 4:52 pm ]
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well, it is Fox News. I was more interested in the aftermath within the studio.
Author:  Alfred [ Wed May 10, 2006 4:58 pm ]
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With a 350-400m worldwide gross, I don't think that Paramount should worry. But this result is a disappointment, because everyone thought that this movie 'd be huge! And I don't blame Cruise. The main factor was the date. MI3 is a summer movie, and it's not summer yet. MI2 got those summer feeling and amazing tracks from Metallica and Limp Bizkit helped a lot. But back to topic, this daily number is good, I see a 25m weekend.
And I moved from Mojo, too. I have to get use to this site, and should improve my language skills, but I was born to try. :)
Author:  Dr. Lecter [ Wed May 10, 2006 5:00 pm ]
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Alfred wrote:
With a 350-400m worldwide gross, I don't think that Paramount should worry. But this result is a disappointment, because everyone thought that this movie 'd be huge! And I don't blame Cruise. The main factor was the date. MI3 is a summer movie, and it's not summer yet. MI2 got those summer feeling and amazing tracks from Metallica and Limp Bizkit helped a lot. But back to topic, this daily number is good, I see a 25m weekend.
And I moved from Mojo, too. I have to get use to this site, and should improve my language skills, but I was born to try. :)


I agree, the gross is only disappointing because of expectations (which included mine as well). It will still wind up with a good gross.

And welcome to the site, I assume you are from Hungary, right? :D
Author:  jb007 [ Wed May 10, 2006 5:05 pm ]
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loyalfromlondon wrote:
well, it is Fox News. I was more interested in the aftermath within the studio.


Based on the way the article is presented, I would suspect if anything even close to what is described took place at Paramount. loyal, do you think there would have been such a huge reaction at Paramount?

@ Dr. Lecter: The article should have used BKB's parking lot report. ;)
Author:  DP07 [ Wed May 10, 2006 5:51 pm ]
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Blame MI2 for it's WOM, and maybe Cruise.

Given the situation it found itself in I think it's doing fine. 115m-120m domestic is not poor. Expectations were unreasonable IMO.
Author:  Dr. Lecter [ Wed May 10, 2006 6:04 pm ]
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It will pass $130 million :)
Author:  DP07 [ Wed May 10, 2006 6:22 pm ]
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Dr. Lecter wrote:
It will pass $130 million :)


I guess we will again just have to wait for the numbers. :tongue: ;)
Author:  Supafroius [ Thu May 11, 2006 1:16 pm ]
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Word of Mouth is stellar howver i'm afraid this summer is so JAMPACKED with large movies that it may hurts it legs sigificantly. I hope I am wrong but if not THis should end around 130 million which is a decent number but definitly under expectations and much less than it deserves.
Author:  Futureboy [ Thu May 11, 2006 1:40 pm ]
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I honestly can't believe these explanations...

I'm very respectful of other people's opinions, but this is a $180M budgeted film (some say more) with one of the most media-blanketed media campaigns I've ever seen...and a $130M projected gross is just fine? I can't believe I'm hearing this!

I understand that a lot of us are J.J. Abrams fans (as I am) and we want to root for this since it turned out to be such a good film. A lot of us might be having a reaction to all the Cruise bashing (which I'm sorry...but I do feel he is mostly to blame). But when you start pinning it on the date or saying that it had outsized expectations...well that's just putting lipstick on a pig. It IS underperforming, it IS considered a disappointment (far away from a flop though)...and a lot of the reason is because this movie is built completely around a star whose image has been tarnished.
Author:  Eagle [ Thu May 11, 2006 1:42 pm ]
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I think the reason that you can be somewhat optimistic about MI3 is it's overseas gross. The movie won't make much money, but it won't lose any either.
Author:  movies35 [ Thu May 11, 2006 1:48 pm ]
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How the hell is THE SENTINEL at #6? :huh:
Author:  Supafroius [ Thu May 11, 2006 2:06 pm ]
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Futureboy wrote:
I honestly can't believe these explanations...

I'm very respectful of other people's opinions, but this is a $180M budgeted film (some say more) with one of the most media-blanketed media campaigns I've ever seen...and a $130M projected gross is just fine? I can't believe I'm hearing this!

I understand that a lot of us are J.J. Abrams fans (as I am) and we want to root for this since it turned out to be such a good film. A lot of us might be having a reaction to all the Cruise bashing (which I'm sorry...but I do feel he is mostly to blame). But when you start pinning it on the date or saying that it had outsized expectations...well that's just putting lipstick on a pig. It IS underperforming, it IS considered a disappointment (far away from a flop though)...and a lot of the reason is because this movie is built completely around a star whose image has been tarnished.


Eagle hit the spot on this. The International market for this has been great. MAny increases in ares from the previous film are giving us good signs the international take will more than double the domestic and if the domestic gets 130 ish, the worldwide could be easily 400 million which is easily a profit. Sure Cruise wont make 100 mill like he did for war of the worlds but it's still not a loss. It's just about at it's total cost worlwide and it has not even ben out a week. Is it really so bad?
Author:  DP07 [ Thu May 11, 2006 2:23 pm ]
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Futureboy wrote:
I honestly can't believe these explanations...

I'm very respectful of other people's opinions, but this is a $180M budgeted film (some say more) with one of the most media-blanketed media campaigns I've ever seen...and a $130M projected gross is just fine? I can't believe I'm hearing this!


Well, not fine as if it's going to turn a large profit, but fine given the potential I think this movie had. In other words, I always thought this movie was a bad idea and I don't think it should have been made, at least for that budget.
Author:  Futureboy [ Thu May 11, 2006 2:51 pm ]
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DP07 wrote:
Futureboy wrote:
I honestly can't believe these explanations...

I'm very respectful of other people's opinions, but this is a $180M budgeted film (some say more) with one of the most media-blanketed media campaigns I've ever seen...and a $130M projected gross is just fine? I can't believe I'm hearing this!


Well, not fine as if it's going to turn a large profit, but fine given the potential I think this movie had. In other words, I always thought this movie was a bad idea and I don't think it should have been made, at least for that budget.


Yeah, you're right...that's a good way to put it. :smile:

And you're right Supafroius...the International #s will definitely put it in the black. But, I hear that a good deal of those #s are underwhelming as well (it'll be interesting to see how it goes in Japan). Next weekend will be a good test of that.
Author:  Optimus_Prime [ Thu May 11, 2006 3:14 pm ]
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Eagle wrote:
I think the reason that you can be somewhat optimistic about MI3 is it's overseas gross. The movie won't make much money, but it won't lose any either.


Good point. Paramount is not going crazy, they arent happy by any stretch of the imagination, but they arent ready to go work at Blockbuster just yet.
Author:  getluv [ Thu May 11, 2006 9:50 pm ]
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Optimus_Prime wrote:
Eagle wrote:
I think the reason that you can be somewhat optimistic about MI3 is it's overseas gross. The movie won't make much money, but it won't lose any either.


Good point. Paramount is not going crazy, they arent happy by any stretch of the imagination, but they arent ready to go work at Blockbuster just yet.


UIP distributes Paramount films internationally, so we can assume UIP is benefiting much more than Paramount.
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