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Author:  snack [ Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:34 am ]
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Me and my gay self are uber excited for this....
Basically, it's next year's Holiday musical based on a broadway show.
Official Site w/ Teaser Trailer
Starring:
Beyonce
Jamie Foxx
Danny Glover
Eddie Murphy
and JENNIFER HUDSON FROM AMERICAN IDOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (most robbed contestant EVER)

Directed by Bill Condon (Chicago)
Let's see...this will be popular with the middle-age black demographic, gay demographic, and not much else IMO (maybe some Idol fans, Beyonce fanboys, and Jamie Fox fangirls) I don't know what we compare this too...not as much appeal as Chicago, a different fanbase than The Producers, plus a much larger production and marketing campaign than Rent. I think this could be pretty big though, I just can't figure out which demographic could make it big. Expect a lot of Oscar Buzz (Director, Actor (Foxx), Supporting Actor (Glover), Supporting Actress (Hudson), Picture?, Costume, etc.)
Author:  snack [ Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:35 am ]
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Oh, and I know how early this is for a film like this, but I was in shock that the teaser was already out, so might as well...
Author:  Shack [ Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:38 am ]
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Poor Eddie Murphy.
Author:  matatonio [ Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:34 am ]
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well i dont know, that awful teaser trailer didnt help much...i need to wait for some actual footage from the film to make a prediction

i really cant wait to see Jennifer Hudson :D i dont expect much from her acting, i just want to see her sing :happy:
Author:  MadGez [ Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:58 am ]
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$22m opening, $55m total
Author:  Dr. Lecter [ Tue Dec 20, 2005 8:50 am ]
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Oscar buzz? I mean the fact that three touted musical adaptations have recently failed at sparking Oscar buzz (The Phantom of the Opera, Rentand The Producers) should be enough to tell everyone that a musical adaptation does not equal Oscar buzz.
Author:  dar [ Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:07 am ]
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Yep, but this one has an Oscar winner screenwriter and an Oscar winner actor, something the others didn´t.

That must count for something.
Author:  Dr. Lecter [ Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:11 am ]
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dar wrote:
Yep, but this one has an Oscar winner screenwriter and an Oscar winner actor, something the others didn´t.

That must count for something.


Jarhead had an Oscar winning director and the same actor. And the musicals were arguably all more popular.
Author:  dar [ Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:14 am ]
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Dr. Lecter wrote:
dar wrote:
Yep, but this one has an Oscar winner screenwriter and an Oscar winner actor, something the others didn´t.

That must count for something.


Jarhead had an Oscar winning director and the same actor. And the musicals were arguably all more popular.


Yep, but you compared this movie to other three musicals. I was just stating that this one has more oscar pedigree.

And I don´t think "Chicago" was most popular than "Phantom", "Rent" or "The producers", and look how that turned out, Oscar-wise. BTW, isn´t it funny that "Producers" has been out for just a few days and we all are mostly sure of a) No oscar nominations and b) Box office bomb. More tragic than funny, actually. :huh:
Author:  Dr. Lecter [ Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:18 am ]
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dar wrote:
Dr. Lecter wrote:
dar wrote:
Yep, but this one has an Oscar winner screenwriter and an Oscar winner actor, something the others didn´t.

That must count for something.


Jarhead had an Oscar winning director and the same actor. And the musicals were arguably all more popular.


Yep, but you compared this movie to other three musicals. I was just stating that this one has more oscar pedigree.

And I don´t think "Chicago" was most popular than "Phantom", "Rent" or "The producers", and look how that turned out, Oscar-wise. BTW, isn´t it funny that "Producers" has been out for just a few days and we all are mostly sure of a) No oscar nominations and b) Box office bomb. More tragic than funny, actually. :huh:


Well, I would still contend that Chicago WAS more well-known than Dreamgirls. In fact, I have never heard of Dreamgirls before and I have always known the other four.

I don't know if The Producers is a bomb (never said it), but the PTA isn't encouraging. And less than 55% at RT pretty much assure no big Oscar noms.

This one might have pedigree, but in fact it looks more awful than any of the other ones. The screenwriter doesn't matter much anyway, since Akiva Goldsman wrote Batman & Robin and A Beautiful Mind, meaning that while he could win Osacar for one, he could still suck big big time at another.
Author:  dar [ Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:25 am ]
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Dr. Lecter wrote:
dar wrote:
Dr. Lecter wrote:
dar wrote:
Yep, but this one has an Oscar winner screenwriter and an Oscar winner actor, something the others didn´t.

That must count for something.


Jarhead had an Oscar winning director and the same actor. And the musicals were arguably all more popular.


Yep, but you compared this movie to other three musicals. I was just stating that this one has more oscar pedigree.

And I don´t think "Chicago" was most popular than "Phantom", "Rent" or "The producers", and look how that turned out, Oscar-wise. BTW, isn´t it funny that "Producers" has been out for just a few days and we all are mostly sure of a) No oscar nominations and b) Box office bomb. More tragic than funny, actually. :huh:


Well, I would still contend that Chicago WAS more well-known than Dreamgirls. In fact, I have never heard of Dreamgirls before and I have always known the other four.

I don't know if The Producers is a bomb (never said it), but the PTA isn't encouraging. And less than 55% at RT pretty much assure no big Oscar noms.

This one might have pedigree, but in fact it looks more awful than any of the other ones. The screenwriter doesn't matter much anyway, since Akiva Goldsman wrote Batman & Robin and A Beautiful Mind, meaning that while he could win Osacar for one, he could still suck big big time at another.


yes, but Bill Condon, IMO, hasn´t sucked yet. He wrote "Gods and monsters", "Kinsey" and "Chicago". The Akiva Goldsman comparison is a bit offensive. ;)

Oh, I thought everybody believed "The producers" to be a bomb after this weekend. I, for one, do. I´d be surprised if it does much more than "Rent", and in no way I think It will surpass "Phantom"
Author:  Dr. Lecter [ Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:34 am ]
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I don't think The Producers' fanbase is as obsessed as Rent's, thus a low-ish opening PTA doesn't surprise me much, really. I think it will surpass Rent with no problem.

It's not a bomb, probably a disappointment, just like Rent.

Funnily enough, these two make Phantom look really good now.
Author:  Bodrul [ Tue Dec 20, 2005 1:14 pm ]
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At first it sounded like a porno. It still does.
Author:  dolcevita [ Tue Dec 20, 2005 8:33 pm ]
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It'll be huge unless beyonce manages to kill her career sometime in the next few months. Never underestimate tween pull, number 1, a good soundtrack, nostalgia for the music era, and music biopics just keep getting bigger and bigger. Decent cast, I see this nearing 100 million if it can get a normal critical reception (70's at rt).
Author:  Kris K [ Wed May 17, 2006 1:30 pm ]
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Dreamgirls has officially hit the Cannes Film Festival.

20 minutes of the unfinished movie will be screened to critics next week.
Stars Beyonce Knowles and Jamie Foxx will be presenting the clip along with director Bill Condon.

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Clips:

ET Preview Number 1: Featuring Jennifer Hudson and a song clip:
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Behind The Scenes
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ET Preview Number 2
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The All Star Cast

Beyonce Knowles-
Multi grammy award winning singer who's movie hits include 'Austin Powers: Goldmember', 'Fighting Temptations' & 'The Pink Panther'.

Jamie Foxx-
Academy Award Winning star of 'Collateral', 'Ray', 'Jarhead' and this summer's 'Miami Vice'.

Eddie Murphy
Golden Globe Nominee, star of 'Dr Dolittle', 'Daddy Day Care', 'Haunted Mansion', 'Shrek' & 'Trading Places'

Danny Glover
The Emmy award nominated actor. Star of the 'Lethal Weapon' franchise and 2004's massive hit horror movie, 'Saw'

Jennifer Hudson
Finalist on Fox's smash hit, highest rated television show, American Idol.

Anika Noni Rose
Won Broadway's 2004 Tony Award as Best Actress (Featured Role - Musical) for "Caroline, or Change."

From the screenwriter of the massive, worldwide, oscar winning smash, CHICAGO, and director of critically acclaimed hit KINSEY.


Tagline: Fame Comes And Goes, Stars Rise And Fall, But Dreams Live Forever

Budget: $70,000,000 (estimated) (iMDB)

Release Date: 21st December 2006.

Official Site: http://www.dreamgirls.dreamworks.com/
Author:  Kris K [ Wed May 17, 2006 1:52 pm ]
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Another singing clip...

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Author:  snack [ Mon Aug 14, 2006 6:26 am ]
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Incredible reviews coming in....

http://aintitcoolnews.com/display.cgi?id=24150

http://aintitcoolnews.com/display.cgi?id=24149

http://aintitcoolnews.com/display.cgi?id=24147
Author:  Excel [ Mon Aug 14, 2006 6:33 am ]
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hudson steals a da show. no word on beyonce; but i assumes shes ok.

i say 17/89
Author:  Libs [ Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:54 am ]
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Buzz, so far, is out of this world.

$100M+
Author:  misutaa [ Mon Aug 14, 2006 12:11 pm ]
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These reviews are AMAZING.

They said Beyonce was excellent!!!!!!!!!!

Jennifer Hudson is now a near lock for an nom. But is she lead or supporting?
Author:  Libs [ Mon Aug 14, 2006 12:14 pm ]
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Misutaa Supaakoru wrote:
These reviews are AMAZING.

They said Beyonce was excellent!!!!!!!!!!

Jennifer Hudson is now a near lock for an nom. But is she lead or supporting?


Supporting.
Author:  DIB2 [ Mon Aug 14, 2006 12:24 pm ]
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looks pretty good

OW:15m

TOTAL:100m+

6.7 multiplier
Author:  Kris K [ Mon Aug 14, 2006 3:38 pm ]
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I cannot wait for this...

Honestly....

GO JENNIFER!!!!
Author:  Jonathan [ Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:02 pm ]
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Bumpity Bump

With one theater charging $25 a ticket, I wouldn't be too surprised if this became the second live-action film ever to have a PTA above $100,000. At the very least I think it can get $75,000. I'll go with $92,000 for now.

After that, this is hard to predict, as it opens in 800 theaters on Christmas and is suppose to go wide in January. For now, I think it at least looks likely to make $100M when it's all said and done.
Author:  neo_wolf [ Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:52 pm ]
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Awards Czar Jon wrote:

With one theater charging $25 a ticket,


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