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El Murato
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If Cars happen to disappoint, I think Pixar should expand their specifics into not just including kid flicks but also do more adult oriented CGI flicks. If they did something like Beowulf like Zemeckis is doing, they might be able to reach a new audience
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Dr. Lecter
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Bret Ratner is the best wrote: If Cars happen to disappoint, I think Pixar should expand their specifics into not just including kid flicks but also do more adult oriented CGI flicks. If they did something like Beowulf like Zemeckis is doing, they might be able to reach a new audience I have doubts about Beowulf hitting it big at the box-office. _________________The greatest thing on earth is to love and to be loved in return!The Croods ReviewSafe Haven ReviewThe Dark Knight Rises Review
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O
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"Cars" if it disappoints is not going to be because they need to get more older audiences, its because its Cars, and not to sound stereotypical, but its like trying to get alot of guys to go see a Pixar Barbie movie. For alot of youngsters, its cars for guys and dolls for girls. This obviously isn't 100% the case, but that's just how society dictates (ex. girl = pink, boy= blue). So essentially, your disinteresting 1/2 of your audience already. I'll be interested in the demo breakdown, to see just how male skewed Cars might end up being.
Also wanted to add, look at Nemo and Car comparisons, Nemo had pretty smooth sailing for its demos for a LONG time, Cars doesn't have that luxury. That's also one of the reasons it could underperform. Finally, the CGI overload is taking its toll on DW (Hedge underperformed, but is holding on well), and could Pixar as well.
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DP07
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ashwani wrote: I simply think that PIXAR is overrated.
The only PIXAR movie i have liked is The Incredibles. But the remaining are so bad and btw i don't give a shit about critics who give all PIXAR movies a 90%+ at rottentomatoes.com
These critics get paid to write good things. Did u even know that guys????
In my country critics are paid to write good things. Hell i have a freind whose dad is a critic on movies in one of the local newspapers and he says whatever reviews we see are all FIXED. Studios pay each and every critic in USA between $1000-5000 in order for them to write good reviews for their BIG movies especially WB, PARAMOUNT adn PIXAR+DISNEY. In my country too there are only 10-15 newspaper critics and MTV whom they give good money to write a good review.
And when people see these reviews they start saying that movie was great and awesome even if it sucked bigtime. It wouldn't surprise me in many countries, but I'm doubtful about it happening in the USA. But maybe I'm just naive. 
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DP07
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O wrote: "Cars" if it disappoints is not going to be because they need to get more older audiences, its because its Cars, and not to sound stereotypical, but its like trying to get alot of guys to go see a Pixar Barbie movie. For alot of youngsters, its cars for guys and dolls for girls. This obviously isn't 100% the case, but that's just how society dictates (ex. girl = pink, boy= blue). So essentially, your disinteresting 1/2 of your audience already. I'll be interested in the demo breakdown, to see just how male skewed Cars might end up being.
Also wanted to add, look at Nemo and Car comparisons, Nemo had pretty smooth sailing for its demos for a LONG time, Cars doesn't have that luxury. That's also one of the reasons it could underperform. Finally, the CGI overload is taking its toll on DW (Hedge underperformed, but is holding on well), and could Pixar as well. Yes, I think that nails it.
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ashwani
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I guess FOX decision to release ICE AGE 2 in march paid of really well.
the movie might not have done $200 million domestically BUT it has done a UBER BLOCKBUSTER business overseas and btw is on track to beating "The Incredibles" worldwide boxoffice.
The highest grossing animated movies woldwide at present
1) SHREK 2 $916,121,703 computer animation
2) FINDING NEMO $864,625,978 computer animation
3) THE LION KING $783,841,776 hand drawn animation
4) THE INCREDIBLES $631,436,092 computer animation
5) ICE AGE 2 $631,076,967 computer animation
VERY soon ICE AGE 2 will beat The incredibles and become the 4th highest grossing animated movie of all time worldwide boxoffice and the 3rd highest grossing COMPUTER ANIMATION movie worldwide and the 3rd highest grossing computer animation movie overseas and the 4th highest grossing animated movie overseas.
very impressive for ICE AGE 2 i have to say.
how many think ICE AGE 2 will be 2006 highest grossing animated movie worldwide.
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Eventine
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Ice Age 2 has it on the bag unless Happy Feet breaks out.
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Eventine
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O wrote: Also wanted to add, look at Nemo and Car comparisons, Nemo had pretty smooth sailing for its demos for a LONG time, Cars doesn't have that luxury. That's also one of the reasons it could underperform. Finally, the CGI overload is taking its toll on DW (Hedge underperformed, but is holding on well), and could Pixar as well. Unfortunately, yes. As of this point, even reaching out to Monsters Inc. demographics would be hard. _________________
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Bradley Witherberry
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Revise your box office predictions downwards, boys!
The new Pixar movie is disappointing and will have trouble appealing to all but small geeky demographics...
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Libs
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bradley witherberry wrote: Revise your box office predictions downwards, boys!
The new Pixar movie is disappointing and will have trouble appealing to all but small geeky demographics... Children are small geeks?
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ashwani
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Eventine wrote: Ice Age 2 has it on the bag unless Happy Feet breaks out. Ya i forgot about that!!
It has potential but probably won't do more than $400 million worldwide because WB is a very BAD studio when it comes to marketing movies.
As for other animated movies this year ALL OF THEM ARE GOING TO BOMB.
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Bradley Witherberry
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Libs wrote: bradley witherberry wrote: Revise your box office predictions downwards, boys!
The new Pixar movie is disappointing and will have trouble appealing to all but small geeky demographics... Children are small geeks? It's not going to appeal to the same range or number of children as Finding Nemo - not by a long shot... _________________."Change your God." - Nazgul9
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Eventine
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ashwani wrote: Eventine wrote: Ice Age 2 has it on the bag unless Happy Feet breaks out. Ya i forgot about that!! It has potential but probably won't do more than $400 million worldwide because WB is a very BAD studio when it comes to marketing movies. As for other animated movies this year ALL OF THEM ARE GOING TO BOMB. That's not what happened with Charlie last year. Besides, even if WB is bad at marketing, WOM could fuel this movie. Of course I'm not guaranteeing that. Reaction from its teaser has been great and has been the best one I've seen for an animated movie. _________________
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ashwani wrote: I simply think that PIXAR is overrated.
The only PIXAR movie i have liked is The Incredibles. But the remaining are so bad and btw i don't give a shit about critics who give all PIXAR movies a 90%+ at rottentomatoes.com
These critics get paid to write good things. Did u even know that guys????
In my country critics are paid to write good things. Hell i have a freind whose dad is a critic on movies in one of the local newspapers and he says whatever reviews we see are all FIXED. Studios pay each and every critic in USA between $1000-5000 in order for them to write good reviews for their BIG movies especially WB, PARAMOUNT adn PIXAR+DISNEY. In my country too there are only 10-15 newspaper critics and MTV whom they give good money to write a good review.
And when people see these reviews they start saying that movie was great and awesome even if it sucked bigtime. Since when do quote whores represent all film critics?
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insomniacdude
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ashwani wrote: I simply think that PIXAR is overrated.
The only PIXAR movie i have liked is The Incredibles. But the remaining are so bad and btw i don't give a shit about critics who give all PIXAR movies a 90%+ at rottentomatoes.com
These critics get paid to write good things. Did u even know that guys????
In my country critics are paid to write good things. Hell i have a freind whose dad is a critic on movies in one of the local newspapers and he says whatever reviews we see are all FIXED. Studios pay each and every critic in USA between $1000-5000 in order for them to write good reviews for their BIG movies especially WB, PARAMOUNT adn PIXAR+DISNEY. In my country too there are only 10-15 newspaper critics and MTV whom they give good money to write a good review.
And when people see these reviews they start saying that movie was great and awesome even if it sucked bigtime. Or maybe we just like the films that we like and dislike the films that we dislike, just like you. _________________
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Eventine
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 insomniacdude wrote: ashwani wrote: I simply think that PIXAR is overrated.
The only PIXAR movie i have liked is The Incredibles. But the remaining are so bad and btw i don't give a shit about critics who give all PIXAR movies a 90%+ at rottentomatoes.com
These critics get paid to write good things. Did u even know that guys????
In my country critics are paid to write good things. Hell i have a freind whose dad is a critic on movies in one of the local newspapers and he says whatever reviews we see are all FIXED. Studios pay each and every critic in USA between $1000-5000 in order for them to write good reviews for their BIG movies especially WB, PARAMOUNT adn PIXAR+DISNEY. In my country too there are only 10-15 newspaper critics and MTV whom they give good money to write a good review.
And when people see these reviews they start saying that movie was great and awesome even if it sucked bigtime. Or maybe we just like the films that we like and dislike the films that we dislike, just like you. Exactly! _________________
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Dr. Lecter
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Notr long until DP07 will have to find a way to reason why he was wrong on Cars. Looks like a $15 million opening day we got on our hands at least.
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We're looking at a 55m+ OW at the least, so DP07 was off. Yes, it isn't going to be a 70m opener like the others, but it still is getting great sales and WOM seems strong and it should pass 200m easily.
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It should be the biggest computer animated movie of the year, unless Happy Feet breaks out.
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It was a lock for $40m opening weekend.
DP07 isn't so good with kid's films, especially their opening weekend. Heh.
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Jon
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Zingaling wrote: It was a lock for $40m opening weekend.
DP07 isn't so good with kid's films, especially their opening weekend. Heh. He's not that good with multipliers either. Remember his 2.5 multiplier prediction for RV? 
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Dr. Lecter
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Positive Jon wrote: Zingaling wrote: It was a lock for $40m opening weekend.
DP07 isn't so good with kid's films, especially their opening weekend. Heh. He's not that good with multipliers either. Remember his 2.5 multiplier prediction for RV? Wasn't that baumer? _________________The greatest thing on earth is to love and to be loved in return!The Croods ReviewSafe Haven ReviewThe Dark Knight Rises Review
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Jon
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Dr. Lecter wrote: Positive Jon wrote: Zingaling wrote: It was a lock for $40m opening weekend.
DP07 isn't so good with kid's films, especially their opening weekend. Heh. He's not that good with multipliers either. Remember his 2.5 multiplier prediction for RV? Wasn't that baumer? He said it wouldn't break $35M after opening weekend. 
DP07 smartened up in the end and gave it a 14/48 prediction, but in Febuary he was predicting 7/17.
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DP07
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Dr. Lecter wrote: Notr long until DP07 will have to find a way to reason why he was wrong on Cars. Looks like a $15 million opening day we got on our hands at least. At least?
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Dr. Lecter
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DP07 wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: Notr long until DP07 will have to find a way to reason why he was wrong on Cars. Looks like a $15 million opening day we got on our hands at least. At least? Looks like that to me. Okay, the very least would be $14 million, but that won't make much of a difference anyway. $15 million seems more likely. Thing is, it will pass $31 million after two days. _________________The greatest thing on earth is to love and to be loved in return!The Croods ReviewSafe Haven ReviewThe Dark Knight Rises Review
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