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Author: | Spidey [ Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:20 pm ] |
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What do you guys think this will do at the box office opening and total gross? It is targeting a release date in the summer of 2007. I know it is early, but I want to see what you guys think. |
Author: | zingy [ Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:22 pm ] |
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A little better than AVP numbers. |
Author: | MovieDude [ Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:59 pm ] |
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Zingaling wrote: A little better than AVP numbers. I'd agree. The one thing this has going for it is that it'll probably be PG-13. From there, it could underperform severely or it could be a huge hit, depending on the effects and if there's a semi decent cast. This summer proved that you can't have action movies make 100 million simply because they cost a whole lot. They need to have memorable things about them in the trailers and bankable actors in them as well. |
Author: | Spidey [ Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:59 pm ] |
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Zingaling wrote: A little better than AVP numbers. You think it will do that bad? I think it will hit at least $100m. |
Author: | Mister Ecks [ Wed Aug 24, 2005 3:39 pm ] |
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If it's a masterpiece, I'm sure it will snag its fair share of the moolah. If it's a disasterpiece, then nothing will save it. I'm not saying quality = box office bucks, but if Super Mario Bros: The Movie couldn't capitalize on the huge popularity if the video game about 15 years ago, then Halo probably won't stand a better chance if it's sucktacular, either. Then again, there is Tomb Raider... Let me put it this way: it will have a fair-sized opening weekend, but horrible legs. I'm almost positive this will be one of those "Aw man, that movie sucked! No, don't see it. Rent it on DVD, it's not worth going to the theatre to see it" movies. |
Author: | DP07 [ Wed Aug 24, 2005 3:42 pm ] |
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MovieDude wrote: Zingaling wrote: A little better than AVP numbers. I'd agree. The one thing this has going for it is that it'll probably be PG-13. From there, it could underperform severely or it could be a huge hit, depending on the effects and if there's a semi decent cast. This summer proved that you can't have action movies make 100 million simply because they cost a whole lot. They need to have memorable things about them in the trailers and bankable actors in them as well. I think it proved once again that a fanbase whether as a sequel or from a video game, comic book etc. is most important. If not already popular not many big-budget action films have been blockbusters since 2001. Only about one or two such action films are big each year; this year it seems to have been Mr. & Mrs. Smith. If Halo is done right and gets the hype I think it will, it could do 150m+ IMO. It's more popular then Tomb Raider was. |
Author: | bABA [ Wed Aug 24, 2005 3:51 pm ] |
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Ehem. Halo 2 Sold 120 million dollars the day it came out, outgrossing any media opening record. that translate to about 1.4 million people, which translate to about 11 to 12 million dollars in box office. To date, in North America, the game has sold over 6 million copies i believe ... maybe even more. Thats about 55 million right there. The movie will hit 100 million, whether it sucks or not. |
Author: | zingy [ Wed Aug 24, 2005 3:59 pm ] |
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Too early to tell, though. If it is marketed well, if the trailer is fantastic and shows amazing money-shots, and if it releases in one of the better summer months (not August...), I could see a $50+ million opening weekend, and $120 million total. Like I said, it's early. |
Author: | are-why-a-en [ Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:02 pm ] |
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Resident Evil Was a huge game as well, and although it had a DECENT opening, it didn't even make 50 million. But this could also be like Mortak Kombat which was a huge game, and the movie was capitalizing off the game. The movie was decent, but just as R.E. it was frontloaded. I think this movie, if publicity is done right, will be very front loaded, but will turn in a decent amount of cash. Somewhere in the 30 million opening range, and finishing somewhere in the 80-90 million dollar range. 100 million IS a possibility though...we'll have to wait and see. |
Author: | bABA [ Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:16 pm ] |
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are-why-a-en wrote: Resident Evil Was a huge game as well, and although it had a DECENT opening, it didn't even make 50 million. But this could also be like Mortak Kombat which was a huge game, and the movie was capitalizing off the game. The movie was decent, but just as R.E. it was frontloaded. I think this movie, if publicity is done right, will be very front loaded, but will turn in a decent amount of cash. Somewhere in the 30 million opening range, and finishing somewhere in the 80-90 million dollar range. 100 million IS a possibility though...we'll have to wait and see. popular game, not huge. halo made industry headlines. no music album, dvd, movie or anything has grossed a 120 million dollars in a single day. granted a game costs a lot but even other games have never come close to that. granted i find the story line sucky, its fan base is crazy. |
Author: | zingy [ Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:16 pm ] |
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Heh, well, I think Halo is a little more popular than Mortal Kombat was, and it's also opening 12 years later, when movie tickets are a lot more. It really, really needs an explosive trailer, and it should debut next year with the release of Halo 3 on the Xbox 360 to get fans hyped up for the movie. And, it has to have a release date where it can't possibly get hurt by that summer's three big monsters, Spider-Man 3, Shrek 3, and Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (I think). |
Author: | Joker's Thug #3 [ Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:19 pm ] |
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Seriously, it really doesnt matter how big the game is. Resident Evil and Final Fantasty are more popular then Tomb Raider and they didnt even do half of what that did. It's like everyone who bought the game will see the movie or something, doesnt work like that. |
Author: | Joker's Thug #3 [ Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:21 pm ] |
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bABA wrote: are-why-a-en wrote: Resident Evil Was a huge game as well, and although it had a DECENT opening, it didn't even make 50 million. But this could also be like Mortak Kombat which was a huge game, and the movie was capitalizing off the game. The movie was decent, but just as R.E. it was frontloaded. I think this movie, if publicity is done right, will be very front loaded, but will turn in a decent amount of cash. Somewhere in the 30 million opening range, and finishing somewhere in the 80-90 million dollar range. 100 million IS a possibility though...we'll have to wait and see. popular game, not huge. halo made industry headlines. no music album, dvd, movie or anything has grossed a 120 million dollars in a single day. granted a game costs a lot but even other games have never come close to that. granted i find the story line sucky, its fan base is crazy. |
Author: | Flava'd vs The World [ Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:22 pm ] |
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Halo and GTA have become parts of pop culture, and anything under $40M opening weekend would be a huge dissapointment for them. |
Author: | Joker's Thug #3 [ Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:25 pm ] |
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Flava'd‡ wrote: Halo and GTA have become parts of pop culture, and anything under $40M opening weekend would be a huge dissapointment for them. |
Author: | DP07 [ Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:32 pm ] |
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Killuminati510 wrote: Seriously, it really doesnt matter how big the game is. Resident Evil and Final Fantasty are more popular then Tomb Raider and they didnt even do half of what that did. It's like everyone who bought the game will see the movie or something, doesnt work like that. Tomb Raider was hyped, and I think Halo will probably be as well. RE was horror which limited the audience, Final Fantasy had the CG animation which I think is a horrible idea for a non-family action film. Halo and Tomb Raider are both mainstream action. |
Author: | DP07 [ Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:33 pm ] |
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Killuminati510 wrote: Flava'd‡ wrote: Halo and GTA have become parts of pop culture, and anything under $40M opening weekend would be a huge dissapointment for them. I think a GTA movie would do 100m. Training Day had nearly as much, 8 Mile had more. But, yeah, the audience would be limited. |
Author: | zingy [ Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:36 pm ] |
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Resident Evil was rated R. So, even if the gaming audience wanted to see the film, they couldn't get into it. I'll bet anything Halo will be PG-13. |
Author: | El Maskado [ Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:39 pm ] |
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Under 100 million dollars. It will probably open to around 35 million but with a huge huge drop the following week. Its probably not going to do much better than AvP either. And people really are overpredicting the movie, just because the game sold alot of copies doesnt mean it will replicate the same affect for movies. The same thing was said when people kept overpredicting Sponge Bob because they say that the show was popular.And as for a GTA movie, the game itself borrowed from so many movies like Carlito's Way, Boyz in the Hood, Scarface and Godfather that it would lose its touch if its translated to a movie |
Author: | Joker's Thug #3 [ Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:40 pm ] |
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Halo 2 sold around 6m total in the US, 6mx9 ( General Admission ) thats 54m and thats only if every single person who bought the game goes to see the movie. GTA is around 70m if every single person who bought the game goes to see the movie. Their fanbase isnt like X-Men, Batman, Superman, etc big They'll make over 100m if they look interesting, not if they're just some other generic looking movie. If Halo looks good and is good, it could easily do 100m, but the script supposedly sucks ass and I mean how much effort will people put into a movie based on a videogame, who even knows how much the movies budget is. |
Author: | bABA [ Wed Aug 24, 2005 5:00 pm ] |
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halo <> GTA gta is a story line hashed out of movies in general ... there are a million things out there for it. Halo is a phenom ... master chief is a symbol .. tommy vercetti is no master chief. people buy games for a lot of reasons .... story isn't the reason why people sometimes watch movies either ... |
Author: | zingy [ Wed Aug 24, 2005 5:02 pm ] |
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bABA wrote: halo <> GTA gta is a story line hashed out of movies in general ... there are a million things out there for it. Halo is a phenom ... master chief is a symbol .. tommy vercetti is no master chief. people buy games for a lot of reasons .... story isn't the reason why people sometimes watch movies either ... Exactly. Even if the script might suck, do you think Halo fans will care? This will pull atleast AVP numbers. I don't know how much higher it can go, but it's going to make atleast $80 million total. |
Author: | Joker's Thug #3 [ Wed Aug 24, 2005 5:33 pm ] |
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bABA wrote: halo <> GTA gta is a story line hashed out of movies in general ... there are a million things out there for it. Halo is a phenom ... master chief is a symbol .. tommy vercetti is no master chief. people buy games for a lot of reasons .... story isn't the reason why people sometimes watch movies either ... |
Author: | TonyMontana [ Wed Aug 24, 2005 6:04 pm ] |
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Not sure how this turned into a Halo vs. GTA thread, but unquestionably Halo lends itself for more potential, since every GTA game is simply based off movies that already exist. And try to remember that video game sales do not necessarily translate into ticket sales. There are FAR too many other factors involved. You could make a movie out of the biggest seller of all time (Super Mario Bros.) and it could (and did) fall flat. Resident Evil sells far less games than Mario, but made much more. Halo is slightly unique in that it has a large rabid fan base (as baba pointed out). I do believe that it will open large, just due to that fact. But, it will ultimately come down to the quality of the movie. Some facts we know about the script/production: "The Halo movie is being produced by Peter Schlessel, and written by 28 Days Later and The Beach scribe, Alex Garland, who was said to be paid $1 million to write the script." http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=11043 Microsoft not only sold the movie for big bucks, but will retain a percentage of the profits. On top of that they get some control over the production - and Bungie (the game makers) will also be involved. They specifically said that Halo is their main franchise and they will do everything in their power to see it is not screwed up. It is my opinion that the violent sci-fi based games have a better chance of succeeding in the movie world. I also sincerely doubt that MS will allow Halo to be made into a Final Fantasy type bomb, as Halo is their baby. I like what I see early. It's good to know that Bungie will still have their hands in it, and I sincerely doubt they'll allow their franchise to be made into a bomb. |
Author: | TonyMontana [ Wed Aug 24, 2005 6:13 pm ] |
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Killuminati510 wrote: Halo 2 sold around 6m total in the US, 6mx9 ( General Admission ) thats 54m and thats only if every single person who bought the game goes to see the movie. You can't figure it this way. If a family of 5 bought the game and all see the movie it would translate into 5 tickets for 1 game copy. I bought one copy, but would take my wife to the movie (who bought no copies). There are also many that do not own the game, but play it at a friends house that would be prime candidates to see the movie. If the movie gets massive negative buzz (like BloodRayne is getting) then I wouldn't even see the film. If the movie gets massively great reviews then people who don't even own a video game console would be inclined to see it. I think the only way that game sales would equate to movie ticket sales would be if the movie received lukewarm reviews and didn't incite the fringe people one way or the other. |
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