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Well Summer 08 is still all over the place so its good to see a film bedded down. The Dark Knight could be better off in the Spiderman slot to kick start the summer if they can get rid of Iron Man. However, June has served Batman well over the years (bar 97) so thats where it may stay. Also we have no idea if Indy is coming out and that would be ripe for a July release. I also think Memorial Day weekend needs a major adult or teen blockbuster that will co-exist with Narnia. Hence either Indy or TDK could still open Memorial Day weekend - but legs may be stunted in favour of a bigger opening.

I agree Kung Fu Panda should take the Nemo/Cars slot.

Slightly OT - but I still think Potter 5 should move to November and Pirates take its slot in July. Then a couple of the november films - maybe Beouwolf can move to December and beef it up.

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I definitley agree about POTC moving to 2008. I mean, releasing movies back to back or in the same year never works. Only LOTR has been able to do it and that had the uber loonie fanbase, and the knowledge that they were always going to be back to back. Give it 2 years, room to breathe, hype to grow. Then own 2008.

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I definitley agree about POTC moving to 2008. I mean, releasing movies back to back or in the same year never works. Only LOTR has been able to do it and that had the uber loonie fanbase, and the knowledge that they were always going to be back to back. Give it 2 years, room to breathe, hype to grow. Then own 2008.


And have it sit on the shelf completed for at least 6 months, a year if they want a good spot? Boy, that sure will get some good press for Disney. Not to mention how good the chances are the film could leak out on the internet before it's released - Disney would love for that to happen.


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Well Summer 08 is still all over the place so its good to see a film bedded down. The Dark Knight could be better off in the Spiderman slot to kick start the summer if they can get rid of Iron Man. However, June has served Batman well over the years (bar 97) so thats where it may stay. Also we have no idea if Indy is coming out and that would be ripe for a July release. I also think Memorial Day weekend needs a major adult or teen blockbuster that will co-exist with Narnia. Hence either Indy or TDK could still open Memorial Day weekend - but legs may be stunted in favour of a bigger opening.

I agree Kung Fu Panda should take the Nemo/Cars slot.

Slightly OT - but I still think Potter 5 should move to November and Pirates take its slot in July. Then a couple of the november films - maybe Beouwolf can move to December and beef it up.


HP5 should NOT move. I mean, the the 7th book is coming out a week before. Hype is going to be CRAZY come July 2007. July 2007 will be known as Potter Month. The book release I think can really generate so much buzz that HP5 OW is going to be HUGE(115m+). With November, yeah it will get better legs, but I think the better opening would help HP5 more than better legs.

I actually think POTC3 should get out of summer 2007 in general. Summer 2008 is getting crowded now, BUT...it still lacks that 300m lock film. It has two films with 300m+ potential(TDK and Narnia), and possibly one more(IJ4 if its made), but none are locks. I think POTC3 would perform much better in summer 2008 than in summer 2007. Though I doubt Disney makes the change as without POTC3, Disney would only have one big film in summer 2007, and they already have two big films in summer 2008.

Right now, I think TDK is 99% locked for June release. I think TDK and Wall-E will be the two big blockbusters of June 2008, and both can do extremely well as June can allow both to get huge OW and still get some good legs. I expect a June 13th or June 20th release for TDK now. June 13th I think would be best as that still allows for big OW and still get some good legs.

Now as for Memorial Day: I think JPIV will take the slot. It would be perfect. The film would be aimed for teens/adults, so both JPIV and Narnia 2 can co-exist during Memorial Day holiday. Plus, JPIV is a film that I think would benefit A LOT from a holiday release. JPIV is one of those films that people look at and say, "eh...I may go see that." With the Memorial Day holiday, that "may" turns into "will" as people have the extra incentive to push them to see it.

Here's how May 2008 looks to me now:

May 2nd: Iron Man
May 9th: Ender's Game, if it can get done in time. I'm 100% sure if Ender's Game is completed it will have this slot. Troy and Posiedon, two other Wolfgang Peterson WB summer films, both had same frame. This won't be different
May 16th: Narnia: Prince Caspian
Memorial Day: JPIV

That actually looks like a pretty strong May to me. Iron Man has 100m+ potential, Ender's Game has 100m+ potential(though this probably will be another dissapointment for WB and Wolfgang peterson, but its still got potential), Narnia has 275+ potential, and JPIV has 175m+ potential.

Here's how June 2008 looks to me now:

June 6th: Kung Fu Panda
June 13th: TDK
June 27th: Wall-E

A very strong June. Kung Fu Panda should do 125m+, Wall-E could do anything from 200m to 275m, and TDK has 275m+ potential.

Now, this leaves July and August 2008 open for films like Mummy 3, IJ4, Brazillian Job, Avatar, Wonder Woman, and Star Trek XI. Looks like summer 2008 actually could be a summer where studios actually release films equally apart from each other so that they don't kill themselves.


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Well I do agree that POTC3 should be out in 08 and not 07 but i didnt propose that because of what moviedude said and also what you said about this being Disney's tentpole for 07. Thats why i thought atleast it could move to July and Potter would move to November. WB obviously wants to release it the same month as the book - but i dont neccessarily think it needs the final books hype in the same month. Regardless - I dont think either are moving a this stage - which is good for Potter but not so good for Pirates (which will come 3rd of the big 3 of May 07).

Yes TDK will stay in June (coming soon has it as "June TBA") and I guess Jurassic IV is a good fit for Memorial Day much like The Lost World. Just have no idea if the series still appeals to audiences but you could be right. Indy IV would be just as effective - but who really thinks it will be made in time!

Now I have no idea what WALL-E is about? I know its Pixar - but what is it actually about?

Agree with your release dates. Iron Man doesnt strike me as a big enough film to kick start the summer - but it should be on par with atleast a MI3 size opening. Ender's Game will be interesting. Adult Fantasy a week before kids fantasty - hmm.

I forgot about Avatar - this could be an epic if handled correctly. Perhaps July 4th...

A few other potential summer 08 films - Wolverine, Journey 3D, The Incredible Hulk, Tonight He Comes and Speed Racers (from the Washowski bros).

And how good does Nov/Dec look..... Bond 22 + Madagascar 2 + Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince + potentially Toy Story 3!!!!!!

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I definitley agree about POTC moving to 2008. I mean, releasing movies back to back or in the same year never works. Only LOTR has been able to do it and that had the uber loonie fanbase, and the knowledge that they were always going to be back to back. Give it 2 years, room to breathe, hype to grow. Then own 2008.


And have it sit on the shelf completed for at least 6 months, a year if they want a good spot? Boy, that sure will get some good press for Disney. Not to mention how good the chances are the film could leak out on the internet before it's released - Disney would love for that to happen.


I highly doubt the film would get leaked if they just waited another year. And yes, I think they should wait a year considring that they could potentailly make 200m+ more WW I think with a July 2008 release. 200m is worth the wait.


Am I the only one who thinks that this could make more then either of the new Spider-Man or Shrek films? I don't disagree that it's in the best interest of all three franchises to spread out a bit - though to be fair history has shown that May can support up to five huge films - but this really doesn't have anything to worry about. The Matrix Revolutions didn't bomb because it was getting released right after Reloaded, it bombed because 1. People were very dissapointed with Reloaded and 2. The toxic WOM made the five day opening one of the biggest mistakes in recent blockbuster history.


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I definitley agree about POTC moving to 2008. I mean, releasing movies back to back or in the same year never works. Only LOTR has been able to do it and that had the uber loonie fanbase, and the knowledge that they were always going to be back to back. Give it 2 years, room to breathe, hype to grow. Then own 2008.


And have it sit on the shelf completed for at least 6 months, a year if they want a good spot? Boy, that sure will get some good press for Disney. Not to mention how good the chances are the film could leak out on the internet before it's released - Disney would love for that to happen.


I highly doubt the film would get leaked if they just waited another year. And yes, I think they should wait a year considring that they could potentailly make 200m+ more WW I think with a July 2008 release. 200m is worth the wait.


Its way too soon to release the third film but I think they shot themselves in the foot and have no choice now. Though in all fairness they have planned this even before the mega success of Pirates 2. I dont think they even expected it to be as big as it was.

But Spidey 3 and Shrek the Third will surely hurt it, particularily the latter. The most I see it making is $350m.

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I definitley agree about POTC moving to 2008. I mean, releasing movies back to back or in the same year never works. Only LOTR has been able to do it and that had the uber loonie fanbase, and the knowledge that they were always going to be back to back. Give it 2 years, room to breathe, hype to grow. Then own 2008.


And have it sit on the shelf completed for at least 6 months, a year if they want a good spot? Boy, that sure will get some good press for Disney. Not to mention how good the chances are the film could leak out on the internet before it's released - Disney would love for that to happen.


I highly doubt the film would get leaked if they just waited another year. And yes, I think they should wait a year considring that they could potentailly make 200m+ more WW I think with a July 2008 release. 200m is worth the wait.


Am I the only one who thinks that this could make more then either of the new Spider-Man or Shrek films? I don't disagree that it's in the best interest of all three franchises to spread out a bit - though to be fair history has shown that May can support up to five huge films - but this really doesn't have anything to worry about. The Matrix Revolutions didn't bomb because it was getting released right after Reloaded, it bombed because 1. People were very dissapointed with Reloaded and 2. The toxic WOM made the five day opening one of the biggest mistakes in recent blockbuster history.


Actually - May can expand dramatically (2003 is a prime example). However, it is unprecedented that we have three sequels to $400m+ hits out within 4 weeks of each other. No doubt Shrek will overlap some of POTC's audience. Spidey has two weeks to itself so it should be fine. Still 3 films over $350m in one month is nothing short of spectacular.

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Am I the only one who thinks that this could make more then either of the new Spider-Man or Shrek films? I don't disagree that it's in the best interest of all three franchises to spread out a bit - though to be fair history has shown that May can support up to five huge films - but this really doesn't have anything to worry about. The Matrix Revolutions didn't bomb because it was getting released right after Reloaded, it bombed because 1. People were very dissapointed with Reloaded and 2. The toxic WOM made the five day opening one of the biggest mistakes in recent blockbuster history.


POTC2 WOM was not that great. Honestly, I feel a big reason why its legs were good was because of the lack of competition. I mean, the first 'big' film to challenge POTC2 was TN, and that was on POTC2 5th weekend. POTC2 was dissapointing to most people. My point is that POTC3 is a film that I think viewers would see if they didn't have that many other options. In July 2008, movie-goers probably wouldn't have that many other options than POTC3. In summer 2007 however, they have many other options.

BUT...as MadGez said, its a bit too late now. But my point is that if Disney was smart, they would have delayed POTC3 shooting right when they saw summer 2007 to get crowded.


Yes - I went to see it and I didnt like the first one. But contrary to most i preferred the 2nd :biggrin:

Shrek (and to a lesser extent Spidey) are formidable competition. Then June is fairly solid too.

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I mean, I think the three films can co-exist and each get 350m+. But...I think if you take POTC3 out of the equation, both SM3 and SHrek 2 will do 375m+ for sure, and POTC3 has a shot at 400m+ possibly in July 2008. Honestly, July 2008 is SO perfect for POTC3. Disney should have been able to see this coming and pushed POTC3 back when they could have. Now its too late.


Yeah thats the problem - it was a big mistep on Disney's part. I dont think anyone was expecting POTC3 to come out less than a year later.

Still I guess we are used to having our summers top heavy these days. The good thing about summer 07 is that the second half has some big titles too - Harry Potter 5, Rush Hour, Boure Ultimatum, The Simpsons (well you never know). While mid summer has Transformers and Ratatouillie.

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Oh yeah - I forgot about Wall-E as it seems to have come out of nowhere.

While I do think 2007 will have a greater disparity between the big guns (Shr,Pir,Spi,Pot) and the rest - i do think they can all co-exist. Once a summer is on a roll - box office success breeds further box office success. Though I agree I can see some of the June films failing (Oceans and Surfs Up especially) - I think there will be enough strength in FF4, Ratatouillie and Transformers. Also I still have faith in Bourne and Rush Hour.

The way I see it at the moment:

$350m+ (Shrek the Third, Spiderman 3, Pirates 3)
$250m+ (Harry Potter and the Order of the Pheonix)
$150m+ (Bourne Ultimatum, Rush Hour 3, Transformers, Ratatouillie) - any of these can cross $200m
$100m+ (I Know Pronounce You..., Evan Almighty, The Simpsons, Knocked Up, Fantastic Four and the Silver Surfer, Oceans 13)

Probably a couple of sleepers in the mix aswell.

2008 summer is looking better and better every day. Yes it is getting more crowded than we think. Im pretty sure summer 2008 will have more $100m and $200m films than 2007 but less $300m films - at this stage.

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Yeah I mentioned Hulk in one of my posts above. Im surprised they snared that release date actually. It may be too close to TDK unless that does infact get a May release. Im also pretty sure that Wolverine is coming out in summer 08. That will definitely be the 2nd highest grossing comic book film of the summer and I suspect it will get a July release.

Maybe Hulk will do well if it delivers HULK SMASH like people wanted. They will have to market it pretty well though. If they can salvage an opening in the mid 30s-md40s I think they will be very happy.

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Zodiac - 3/2/07 (from 1/19/07)
Shooter - 3/16/07 (from 3/2/07)
Stardust - 7/27/07 (from 3/16/07)
The Spiderwick Chronicles - 2/15/08 (from 2/29/08)


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hmm - now Zodiac has no chance of a 2006 release date. I kind of thought January was good for it - now it will take more of a Panic Room slot.

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Yeah I mentioned Hulk in one of my posts above. Im surprised they snared that release date actually. It may be too close to TDK unless that does infact get a May release. Im also pretty sure that Wolverine is coming out in summer 08. That will definitely be the 2nd highest grossing comic book film of the summer and I suspect it will get a July release.

Maybe Hulk will do well if it delivers HULK SMASH like people wanted. They will have to market it pretty well though. If they can salvage an opening in the mid 30s-md40s I think they will be very happy.


Yeah, the comic-book genre will be tested in 2008. TDK, Iron Man, Hulk 2, Wolverine, Hellboy 2, and possibly Punisher 2 and Wonder Woman.

I think Hulk 2 will in the end move probably to 2009. I haven't heard that much of the project and I find it surprising the Marvel will released its first two big films so close to each other. And if it doesn't...well, its only hurting itself. I mean, in its spot it is going to have Iron Man and TDK(most likley) before it, and then Wolverine after it.

Wolverine I think is heading for a July 2008 release. Probably get 3rd or 4th weekend simliar to what X-men got. TDK I think is still heading for a June 13th release date. Best release date I think for it at this point to seperate itself from any big films really. July 4th weekend is still possible for it too.


I wonder if WB will flirt with the weekend after july4th weekend - the POTC spot. Its proving to be a better launching pad than July 4th. But I agree I think mid June would be best. May for Iron Man, June for TDK and Jult for Wolverine. Hulk should definitely move to 09. Hellboy I suspect will open in the Spring.

There is also Magneto - but that's probably 09. I wonder if they will have anothe X Men film ready for 09 (continues the 3 year gap between each film)

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Well back in Nov 04 I dont think we knew how big 2007 would look to be, so 2009 still has hope. But at this stage it does look weaker than 07 and 08. I hope they can continue with the mega final year of the decade like 89 and 99 though. I's say by 2009 we will only see one James Cameron film - probably Avatar. I just cant see him releasing two films in two years when he hasnt released anything in a decade. Im sure Battle Angle will be delayed.

2009 has two animated films from Dreamworks that should be strong - How to Train your Dragon in November and Monsters Vs Aliens in Summer. I think Disney has Rapunsel Unbraided and perhaps we will finally see Toy Story 3 then (if it isnt WALL-E). There is also a slim chance of The Hobit in December. Harry Potter 7 will be 2010 release i suspect though. There is a chance that Holiday season 2010 could be a repeat of 2001 with Potter 7 and Hobbit vs Potter 1 and FOTR. Shrek 4 could also be out in 2010 so it could definitely be 2001 all over again.

As for X4 - I think they will take a break for a bit and they did mention they may bring back the younger cast members and perhaps bring on Gambit.

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Hobbit, forgot about that. If TS3 and Hobbit are confirmed for 2009, the year should be solid. 2010 is safe IMO as it has Shrek 4 and HP7, and possibly POTC/SM sequels.

The BO looks safe for a while now it seems. In the next four years, the only one that is a bit iffy is 2009 but that just needs as I said 1-2 projects like Hobbit or TS3.


Exactly. I think 2010 will cap off the Fanboy decade (began with TPM in 99) with kind of final installments - what a list - Star Wars, Spiderman, Matrix, Pirates, LOTR, Potter etc.

BTW - The Hobbit may be in 2 parts - so that could cover 2009 and 2010.

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The way they've been handling Zodiac realllly pisses me off.


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Yeah, 2010 will be the end of the uber-franchises I think as well. HP will be done, Shrek will probably be done, SM will be done.

Maybe then original ideas will come to Hollywood? I mean, to me, it just seems inevitable that eventually, people won't care for sequels anymore. I mean, a trilogy is acceptable in most eyes, but once you start getting into the fourth, fixth, etc. installments, you're pushing it.


I'm sure that after 2010 other huge franchises will be out there, the Batman franchise just started, Pirates of the Carribean is pretty new, and I'm not convinced Spider-Man will be done by then. It's a cycle, new franchises are always beginning, old ones are always coming to a close - sometimes more gracefully then others.


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Yeah, 2010 will be the end of the uber-franchises I think as well. HP will be done, Shrek will probably be done, SM will be done.

Maybe then original ideas will come to Hollywood? I mean, to me, it just seems inevitable that eventually, people won't care for sequels anymore. I mean, a trilogy is acceptable in most eyes, but once you start getting into the fourth, fixth, etc. installments, you're pushing it.


I'm sure that after 2010 other huge franchises will be out there, the Batman franchise just started, Pirates of the Carribean is pretty new, and I'm not convinced Spider-Man will be done by then. It's a cycle, new franchises are always beginning, old ones are always coming to a close - sometimes more gracefully then others.


Batman franchise ends in 2011. I could see possibly a fourth POTC. SM4-SM6 may be made, but will be with a new cast and possibly new director. I think new franchises are going to be born in the next decade. After 2007-2010, people will be sick of the current franchises. Hell, people are already sick of a lot of franchises right now, and most of these franchises only have two installments released so far.


You say all this as if it's set in stone. If the movie industry has taught me anything it's never say die, speculate all you want but I'd suggest a few less "will happen" and a few more "I thinks" and "maybes", there's no reason that WB will stop the Batman franchise this exact year if 2 and 3 open to 130+ million each. All I'm saying is that the release date calendar is constnatly in rotation, and I think it's a bit foolish to act as if all these years and dates are that set in stone. I mean, do you realize how far from now 2011 is?


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Eh, thing is that I think the movie industry is about to change dramatically. There are little signs everywhere that show that a drastic change is coming/needed for the indsutry.


Doesn't that kind of prove my point that you can't act as if all these dates are already in stone, and that we can't be sure any franchises will be gone for sure?


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Yeah, 2010 will be the end of the uber-franchises I think as well. HP will be done, Shrek will probably be done, SM will be done.


People were saying the same thing a few years ago "LOTR will be done, Star Wars will be done, The Matrix will be done." Then Shrek 2 and POTC 2 were massive. Something else will come along that we don't know of now. Maybe Borat 2. :tongue:

Also don't forget that in the 90s you had Jurassic Park and Batman and before that there was Indiana Jones, Star Wars, Star Trek (which was actually once huge), and Superman. If they keep making movies audiences like the franchises can go on forever.


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I still think that sometime in the 2010-2020 decade, Greek myth will explode. Hercules, Poseidon, Hades... there's some new franchises. Most well known stories in the world, big time movie adaptations have to come eventually.

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Yeah sure new franchises will start but what Magnus and myself were saying is that the current batch of uber franchises (from the 00s) will end roughly with the beginning of the new decade. Offcourse there will be overlap but I think its fair to say that an era will close just as im sure a new one will begin.

Who knows - greek myths, more fantasy books adapted, monsters, star trek reborn, a new sci fi series, star wars sequels (IV - IX), mockumentaries etc - could be anything that becomes big in the new decade. I mean who saw Shrek coming for example or even Pirates.

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MadGez wrote:
Yeah sure new franchises will start but what Magnus and myself were saying is that the current batch of uber franchises (from the 00s) will end roughly with the beginning of the new decade. Offcourse there will be overlap but I think its fair to say that an era will close just as im sure a new one will begin.

Who knows - greek myths, more fantasy books adapted, monsters, star trek reborn, a new sci fi series, star wars sequels (IV - IX), mockumentaries etc - could be anything that becomes big in the new decade. I mean who saw Shrek coming for example or even Pirates.


I don't think aanyone's arguing that some franchises will end and others will begin. I just don't agree with the title of "uber franchises."


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Per BOM:

Fox has moved Night at the Museum up two days to December 20, now going squarely head-to-head with Charlotte's Web.

The Hitcher will open wide on January 19 (moved up from February 9).


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