h doesnt discuss the third act, he just says he likes it. honestly i like it, and i dont know what people were expecting.

If you've watched all 4 film, they go from serious to silly. I guess thats why everyone wanted to forget 3 and 4. After reading that review it seems like a modern reincarnation of the original Superman. In some ways almost a copy....

I posted this at the other forum and devoted a thread to it, basically saying this review is nothing more than "DAMAGE CONTROL" for a movie already finished before it even hits theatres..

you're mistaking SR for the HULK.

looks like good hearted fun for the whole family, like the spiderman movies. it will make 250m at the very least, outgrossing x-men 3 (which wont make it past 200m) by at least 50m.

thats true...the trailer reaches every kind of summer audience-summer action/fx audience, comedy, romance, drama.

Wow, you guys managed to make BJ think you are nuts!

27/72!

I only looked through the first page. No way Im booking through 30 of them!

And if it was last year, I guess it makes sense. It could have been before BJ went absolutely nutso.

lol duh it hadnt been in theaters yet...lol

You missed the point entirely. He mentioned Spiderman in there which I think he mean Spidey3 yet its tracking much higher than Superman Returns and Spiderman 3 doesnt come out till next year. You were trying to make a statement about Superman being the most popular Superhero

Kill's point was that Spider-Man 3, which has no footage whatsoever, is beating Superman Returns, which just released the full trailer, in terms of buzz.

BJs New Prediction:

65m | 280m

I thought I'd post this in this thread, as its Superman relevant now!


July 4th was a big opening weekend, and then lost its lustre, and then started coming back to rephrase that. It was a big time before, but massively cooled as the first weekend of May heated up:

Pre 1997: July 4th was one of the "big weekends"

1998: Armageddon Underperforms opening weekend
1999: Wild Wild West massively disappoints
2000: Perfect Storm did well, but the weekend's weekend wasn't that much bigger than the non-big effects extravangza of Gladiator, which opened the summer and was an adult historical drama, so wasn't expected to have a huge opening.
2001: Cats and Dogs and Scary Movie 2 both fail to top $22 m.
2002: MIB2 did strongly, but it was the EIGHTH biggest opening weekend of the year, not top 3 or even top 5. For a sequel to a $250 m film, it should have opened stronger, so it wasn't the best opening. Even if it did have a 5 day weekend, comparatively to 2002, the July 4th weekend wasn't all that ahead of the pack.
2003: T3 and Legally Blonde 2 disappointed this weekend. They had predictions much higher than how they did.
2004: Spiderman 2 starts to return the weekend to its old lustre.
2005: WOTW helps with the turnaround.

Over the past eight years, only recently as the weekend been the home of big openings again, but we haven't really had one for 6 of the past 8 years, with lots of event films underperforming.


You were arguing that the July 4th weekend leads to better openings than the first weekend of May. It's hard to use T2, etc as examples, because we're comparing first weekend of May to Indep. day weekend, and May's first weekend wasn't bankable until the past 10 years.

Here are the opening weekend rankings for their respective years for the first weekend of May and July 4th:

July 4th:

1990: Days of Thunder 10th biggest opening
1991: T2 1st
1992: Weekend did not rank in top 10 openings for the year
1993: The Firm, 2nd
1994: The Lion King's 2nd weekend, would rank as #3 weekend for the year
1995: Apollo 13, 5th
1996: ID4, 1st
1997: MIB, 2nd
1998: Armageddon, 4th
1999: Wild, Wild West did not rank in top ten openings
2000: Perfect Storm, 6th
2001: Scary Movie 2, Cats and Dogs did not rank in top 10 openings (likely not top 15 either)
2002: MIB2, 8th
2003: T3, did not rank in top 10 openings
2004: Spiderman 2, 3rd
2005: WOTW, 4th
2006: Superman, maybe top 5 for the year

As people can see, July 4th was in the big 3 of the year pre 1996, but then went downhill, and only in the past 2 years has returned to its previous top for the year ranks. But I think my term "subdued" for the weekend is more than merited given how the past 8 years have been.


Here's the first weekend of May at the same time as July 4th slipped from top openings.

1990: $6.8 m from Pretty Woman
1991: $4.2 m from Oscar
1992: $4 m from Basic Instinct
1993: $10 m from Dragon Lee
1994: $3.7 m from W/ Honors
1995: $9 m from French Kiss, $18.6 m from 2nd weekend of May for Crimson Tide (10th biggest)
1996: $6.7 m from The Craft, $41 m for Twister in 2nd weekend of May (3rd biggest)
1997: $12 m from Breakdown
1998: $7.6 m from He Got Game, $41 m for Deep Impact in 2nd weekend of May (2nd)
1999: $43 m from Mummy (3rd)
2000: $34.8 m from Gladiator (10th)
2001: $68 m from The Mummy Returns (3rd)
2002: $115 m from Spiderman (1st)
2003: $85.6 m from X2 (2nd)
2004: $52 m from Van Helsing (9th)
2005: $19.6 m from Kingdom (did not rank top 10)
2006: MI3 $48ish m (maybe 11th for the year)

Thus, a very, very odd box office pattern I've just realized, the weaker the first weekend of May is, the stronger that Independence Day weekend seems to be! So MI3 disappointing should help Superman!

Anyways, my main point is, right now, the first weekend of May has been one of the biggies for the year, and July 4th was subdued, only until recently have we been seeing a turnaround. But the first weekend of May for the recent past has been much more bankable than Independence Day has...

lol

bleh, Pirates 2 will pick up the slack not sups.

Even if I did mean the first Spider-Man why would it be ahead of SR on the buzz charts? The movie came out years ago, that would be quite sad if it couldnt beat the first Spider-Man on a new buzz chart.

Right now Da Vinci, SM3, and X3 are beating it. Couple more notches down and it'll fall below BB, SM, and X-Men.

Yahoo buzz proved that MI3 was going to disappoint. And stop using words like "marketting will kick in"

It's sad to say, but even I wanted to deny the lack of M:I-3 on the Yahoo Buzz Chart this whole week, and look what happened. Not that a $45-50 million weekend isn't good, but this isn't what most expected. It's a good tool.

http://www.totaleclips.com/player/Splas ... layerid=65
LOOK UP IN THE SKY: THE AMAZING STORY OF SUPERMAN
doc trailer with new footages from SR

This comes out right before the movie does, doesn't it?

Look, Up in the Sky! The Amazing Story of Superman will be available on DVD June 20 from Warner Home Video.

YEP!

http://www.hollywoodnorthreport.com/art ... ticle=2913

http://www.twbookmark.com/books/69/0446 ... 22886.html

Excerpt from the new "SUPERMAN RETURNS NOVEL"

by Marv Wolfman


Kal-El was asleep when his world exploded. His only memories were of shifting back and forth in the soft, protective confines of his mother’s womb, dreaming of the gentle sounds she made. They were encouraging songs and tender coos that let him know how much he was already loved. As she sang, he knew her hand would gently brush against her swollen abdomen then come to rest on his small, bulging stomach. He anxiously waited for that all-too-brief moment, hoping that very soon he would look into her eyes and let her know he loved her, too.

He was sixteen hours old when he opened his eyes to see her standing over him, a sweet proud smile on her lips. “You are so beautiful,” she said, playing with the fringes of his already thick, black hair. “And you deserve so much more than what awaits you.”

He recognized his mother’s voice—it had comforted him for as long as he could remember—and he returned her a small smile in response. Her fingers danced across his tummy again, tickling him. He giggled, the chubby flesh around his eyes wrinkled as he reached to touch her long dark hair. She was beautiful but her dark gray eyes were welling up with tears. He didn’t understand what was wrong with her, but in the nine months he grew inside her he had learned to deal with her shifting moods.

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There's alot more in the link.

I'm beginning to doubt this will be huge (especially after seeing the trailer), but even with a disappointing opening it should have decent legs since it's more family friendly.

$68m / $230m

At least you're not one of the crazy ones predicting it to not top $200m.