Friday the 13th - $45m+ four-day
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Harry Warden
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The Dark Shape wrote: Chia Pet wrote: The Dark Shape wrote: I'd argue Valentine is a pretty solid flick even without the 3D. Agree. It would still have been a fun film. And where is the sequel announcement? I expected one already. From what I'm hearing, don't expect a sequel in the near future. There are rights issues. Wouldn't the rights issues have been cleared up prior to the remake's release? If not, Lionsgate should just pay whatever is necessary and get on with it as almost always money solves these problems.
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Sat Jan 31, 2009 4:10 am |
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Zuule
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in. They are going to market the crap out of this.
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Sat Jan 31, 2009 5:06 am |
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Magic Mike
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On the current Box Office Mojo poll:
What is your top choice to see in February?
25.4% Friday the 13th (2009) 11.8% No interest in February's releases. 10.5% Push 8.5% Pink Panther 2 8.5% Coraline 8.2% He's Just Not That Into You 8.1% The International 6.7% Fanboys 4.8% Confessions of a Shopaholic 2.3% Street Fighter: The Legend of Chun-Li 1.5% Tyler Perry's Madea Goes to Jail 1.5% Other 1.3% Crossing Over 0.5% Jonas Brothers: The 3D Concert Experience 0.3% Fired Up
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Sat Jan 31, 2009 2:32 pm |
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Magic Mike
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Comingsoon.net poll:
Which February release are you anticipating the most?
Friday the 13th 38.9% Push 13.5% Fanboys 11.9% Street Fighter: The Legend of Chun-Li 9.8% Coraline 7.4% The Pink Panther 2 4.6% The International 4.2% He's Just Not That Into You 4.0% Tyler Perry's Madea Goes to Jail 2.1% Confessions of a Shopaholic 1.7% Jonas Brothers: The 3D Concert Experience 1.1% Crossing Over 0.5% Fired Up 0.2%
Total votes: 11099
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Sat Jan 31, 2009 2:37 pm |
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Harry Warden
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Well, not sure that means much since February is an incredibly weak month and it's the only movie that approaches event movie status and that's only because of its release date.
Still, if January is any indication, the following movies will break out:
Pink Panther 2 Fired Up F13 Confessions of a Shopaholic Tyler Perry's Madea Goes to Jail Jonas Brothers: The 3D Concert Experience
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Sat Jan 31, 2009 5:52 pm |
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Magic Mike
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It's still interesting though  .
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Sun Feb 01, 2009 4:10 am |
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Proud Ryu
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This movie may be more than a triple threat, not counting Jason himself:
Friday the 13th Valentine's Day the 14th Presiden't Day the 15th The apparent synergy between the bad economy and holiday movies
However, horror is definitely not benefiting as much from the holidays as other fare. So far, bumbling buddies and puppies are benefiting the most: Vince Vaughn, Owen Wilson, Kevin James, Adam Sandler.
Dark action isn't too hot right now. Taken benefited from not just from a PG13 but in that Neeson's character was not quite an antihero or a tragic hero but a straight up just ass kicking hero. The villain might not be as lucky WRT box office - it's not like anyone believes that Jason will even be hurt, let alone die. So will people embrace Jason's tenacity and invincibility and slaughtering of "the man" or avoid his evil darkness this holiday? Gran Torino was in a gray area of the box office both outside and in between these.
I'm not sold on 40+ but am maybe slightly less skeptical.
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Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:25 pm |
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Harry Warden
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I'm in for 40M or more. The buzz seems to be very high.
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Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:23 pm |
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David
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Proud Ryu wrote: The villain might not be as lucky WRT box office - it's not like anyone believes that Jason will even be hurt, let alone die. So will people embrace Jason's tenacity and invincibility and slaughtering of "the man" or avoid his evil darkness this holiday? 
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STEVE ROGERS
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I guess my question is: How many ways can you hack someone to death that warranted this to be remade?? Another example of Hollywood running out of ideas, but I'm sure it'll make some $$$ next weekend..
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Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:44 pm |
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Excel
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The tv spots are doing a magnificent job...the jaws ripoff sdhot of the girl swimming from underwater with the voice over "a boy drowned here yearts ago" is classic
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Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:41 pm |
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getluv
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If you really think this is going to make $45m, then why don't you go down to the Games forum and put a bet on it.
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Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:22 pm |
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The_Game_1
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Right now I'm going with $35m 4 day.
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Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:49 am |
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Harry Warden
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NY TimesQuote: WHEN the filmmakers behind the new “Friday the 13th†began plotting their resurrection of the gore-besotted horror franchise, they understood they were riding the knife edge of a series (and genre) with its own sets of rules. Campers die. People who have sex die. No matter how fast they move, the victims can never get away. And Jason Voorhees, the hockey-mask-wearing killer, never runs. He walks. But the producers knew they could not go wrong with sliding a topless waterskiing scene between the episodes of carnage and mayhem. Because in movies like “Friday the 13th†less is never more, particularly when it comes to showcasing comely teenagers (a k a the victims).
While very little about “Friday the 13th†can be called delicate, there’s a fine line between reinventing such an institution and alienating the people who make up its meat and potatoes. The genre demands those good-looking, feckless young men and beautiful, courageous women; the geysers of blood erupting from the imperiled campers; and Jason in a hockey mask, a machete in hand, slaughtering human livestock until someone drowns him, or feeds him into a wood chipper.
The level of devotion lavished on the films by their hard-core fans means a level of scrutiny that was once the exclusive purview of Kremlinologists and Talmudic scholars. This, despite a mythology-chronology that resists mental organization.
“These films have a ridiculously convoluted history,†said Devin Faraci, of the horror site Chud.com. Jason barely appears in Part 1. “He shows up in Part 2, gets killed in Part 4,†he said. “There’s an impostor in a Jason mask in Part 5. Jason comes back as a zombie in Part 6. Toxic sludge turns him back into a child at the end of Part 8. He gets blown up in the opening minutes of Part 9 and then becomes a body-hopping force of evil that gets sucked into hell. In Part 10 the earth is destroyed, Jason becomes a cyborg and lands on an alien planet. Where could the series possibly go at that point? A reboot is the only sane answer.â€Â
A reboot is exactly what the new “Friday the 13th†is being called by the people behind the film, who have found a nicely profitable niche in taking classics of the genre and overhauling them. With “Friday the 13th† opening, naturally, this Friday  the filmmakers have brought the franchise back to earth, literally, dropping Jason and some unsuspecting bait in the middle of Camp Crystal Lake. (“Why do people keep going there?†one viewer wondered aloud during a recent screening.) Jason is now a kind of hunter-survivor, traumatized by the death of his mother at the hands of a camp counselor and self-medicating on death. The rest of the characters? The less said the better, because the film takes great pains to derail expectations about who dies and in what order. The hope among the filmmakers is to emulate their successful 2003 “reimagining†of the seminal “Texas Chainsaw Massacre.â€Â
“When we make one of these films, we go in hoping we can elevate it, not just from a production standpoint but with the actors,†said the producer Brad Fuller. In 2001 Mr. Fuller and his partner Andrew Form founded Platinum Dunes Productions with the director Michael Bay (“Pearl Harborâ€Â). The first Platinum production, “The Texas Chainsaw Massacre,†took in more than $80 million at the domestic box office. It was followed by the reimagined “Amityville Horror†of 2005 ($65 million); the 2006 prequel “The Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning†(nearly $40 million), and, in 2007, an adaptation of the 1986 thriller “The Hitcher†(the lone disappointment, at $16 million).
While they did produce the current original thriller “The Unborn,†Mr. Form and Mr. Fuller, strategically speaking, are taking an approach as obvious and foolproof as producing can probably get. Rather than risk resources on new story concepts and characters, they exploit the name recognition of an established franchise, and its existing fan base while striving to expand them both. And the movies are inexpensive; none have cost more than $20 million to produce. “There’s a tremendous benefit to staying in the same genre and producing movies for the same amount of money over and over,†said Mr. Fuller, “because you really learn who your key players are and how best to work with them.â€Â
The film’s writers, Mark Swift and Damian Shannon, said that like many people on the film, they were horror-film devotees long before entering the industry. “We think we know why they’re successful and why they stick around,†he said. “We wanted it to feel fun, maybe a little nostalgic.†Strangely, despite his murderous ways, Jason is a sympathetic character, Mr. Shannon said: “He’s a victim of neglect.†Mr. Swift added that “there’s something about an outsider in a mask who is now going to punish others that works.â€Â
Mr. Faraci of Chud.com said he believes that fans are ready for a new “Friday the 13th.†“I think the slasher genre is back in a big way, largely as a reaction to the last few years’ spate of dreary, serious or meanspirited horror films. People like slasher films, because they tend to be lighter, more fun and more akin to the experience of a funhouse. There are scares, but they’re not the heavy kind that give you nightmares. And there’s blood, but it’s not presented in the anatomically excruciating detail of the ‘torture porn’ genre.â€Â
“Torture porn,†as exemplified by the “Saw†and “Hostel†series, is decidedly not what the makers of “Friday the 13th†were trying to emulate.
But change, while good, can be risky. “Anytime you deviate from the expectation of a genre and a specific franchise, you risk alienating your core,†said Toby Emmerich, the president and chief executive of New Line Cinema, the studio behind the new “Friday the 13th.†“You don’t want to go too far.†Still, he added, “you want them at the same time to say, “Hey, that’s cool.’ â€Â
How cool they find the new movie will determine whether the new strain of “Friday†starts begetting offspring with roman numerals. And more. “We’re going to try to remake ‘Nightmare on Elm Street,’ †Mr. Emmerich said.
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Dr. Lecter
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I still don't see it. $39-41 million.
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Proud Ryu
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You should close this club on 13th eve at 13:13:13 (1:13 pm, and 13 seconds). Just for shiggles. Too bad this is Jason XII, and not Jason XIII. At least there is 0 chance there won't be a Jason 13. I love the title: Jason Goes to Hell: The Final Friday (Jason IX). It has the same impact as 'Ernest Goes to Camp.' He was just going on vacation - not moving there permanently. Or maybe 'Madea Goes to Jail.' Just doing some time in the penalty box. Jason is a goalie, afterall. Equally great is Jason Takes Manhattan (Jason VIII). I like the idea of him winning a world war by himself. Oh, this movie's going to be fun. 
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zingy
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Sure. Closed tomorrow at 1:13pm. I'm stickin' to it.
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Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:18 pm |
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BJ
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not in
im thinking
Fri: 11m Sat: 16m +50% Sun: 9.5m -40% Wknd: 36.5m Mon: 4m -57% 4-Day: 40.5m
With a possible Friday13th affect Fri: 15m Sat: 18m +20% Sun: 8m -55% Mon: 3.5m -55% 4-Day: (44.5m best case)
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SolC9
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BJ wrote: not in
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Fri: 11m Sat: 16m +50% Sun: 9.5m -40% Wknd: 36.5m Mon: 4m -57% 4-Day: 40.5m
With a possible Friday13th affect Fri: 15m Sat: 18m +20% Sun: 8m -55% Mon: 3.5m -55% 4-Day: (44.5m best case) Really? I'd be fairly shocked if it increased on Saturday. I see a 2.53 Fri to 4-day multiplier. That's a 15% drop Saturday, 45% drop Sunday, and 55% drop Monday. Based off that, it would need almost 18M Friday to hit 45M for the 4-day weekend. I think that is possible given the novelty of releasing this film on the 13th. I mean, if The Omen can do 12.6M on a Tuesday, it's at least possible for this to do 18M+. It may come down to theater count.
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BJ
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SolC9 wrote: BJ wrote: not in
im thinking
Fri: 11m Sat: 16m +50% Sun: 9.5m -40% Wknd: 36.5m Mon: 4m -57% 4-Day: 40.5m
With a possible Friday13th affect Fri: 15m Sat: 18m +20% Sun: 8m -55% Mon: 3.5m -55% 4-Day: (44.5m best case) Really? I'd be fairly shocked if it increased on Saturday. I see a 2.53 Fri to 4-day multiplier. That's a 15% drop Saturday, 45% drop Sunday, and 55% drop Monday. Based off that, it would need almost 18M Friday to hit 45M for the 4-day weekend. I think that is possible given the novelty of releasing this film on the 13th. I mean, if The Omen can do 12.6M on a Tuesday, it's at least possible for this to do 18M+. It may come down to theater count. horror films perform well on valentines  back in 04 Butterflie effect increased more on saturday (+145%) than it did on friday(+135%)
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SolC9
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That is true, but Butterfly Effect was a holdover, it wasn't coming off of a hugely frontloaded opening day. I think my 15% Saturday drop is fairly conservative. If this were a normal Friday the 13th without V-day on Saturday, I would expect this film to drop at least 30% on Saturday.
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Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:20 pm |
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BJ
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SolC9 wrote: That is true, but Butterfly Effect was a holdover, it wasn't coming off of a hugely frontloaded opening day. I think my 15% Saturday drop is fairly conservative. If this were a normal Friday the 13th without V-day on Saturday, I would expect this film to drop at least 30% on Saturday. For every horror film valentines day = massive increase, doesn't matter if the film is an opener or a hold over. I dont see a drop unless the film can clear 17m opening day and even then the drop would be 10% max.
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SolC9
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BJ wrote: SolC9 wrote: That is true, but Butterfly Effect was a holdover, it wasn't coming off of a hugely frontloaded opening day. I think my 15% Saturday drop is fairly conservative. If this were a normal Friday the 13th without V-day on Saturday, I would expect this film to drop at least 30% on Saturday. For every horror film valentines day = massive increase, doesn't matter if the film is an opener or a hold over. I dont see a drop unless the film can clear 17m opening day and even then the drop would be 10% max. A 17M opening day with my multiplier would put it at 43M. I think that is definitely achievable. At this point, anything under 35M would surprise me, but really, anything over 30M for a movie like this is great. I'm going to predict 40M for the 4-day weekend, but I could see it doing anywhere from 35-50M.
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Magic Mike
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I'm predicting an 18 Million Friday and a 10% drop on Saturday due to Valentine's Day. If it weren't for that it would obviously drop a lot more. They really couldn't have picked a better time to release this.
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Harry Warden
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