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Algren
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68301
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 Re: The Expendables 2 (INTL)
Jack Sparrow wrote: It could be that the salaries are too big. With that salary logic the third movie is SURELY going to increase in budget unless stars agree to take pay-cuts. With the WW total this one will barely get even IMO, but let's see how much it makes, I see $150m OS and $70m domestic for $230m WW so it will barely be even from its theatrical run. If they go with the third they will have to depend on TV rights to get their money something the studios will not be happy about I am sure specially relatively smaller one like Lionsgate. I don't see why it would go down by that much. Netherlands and the UK are less than before, and China are not getting it, but Mexico and Russia (among maybe others too) have increased by loads, so I think $170m OS is still on. Sadly though, I feel you are correct with the domestic gross, although TE2 grossed more in opening than The A-Team and that managed to get $77m. I'm going with $255m WW. A third movie would really need to change the formula a tad, add in current star draws, and not be so depressing in its marketing. It must remain R-rated, though, otherwise it will have an irresversible negative effect.
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:15 pm Posts: 36949
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China gave $31m OS. I am still giving it a $10m increase overall. I don't see it doing better than that cause the legs wont be as good as the last one IMO.
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Tue Aug 21, 2012 12:27 pm |
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Algren
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Oh yes, so you are. Sorry. My mistake
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Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:40 pm |
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Algren
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I think it's safe to say that TE2 was the #1 movie worldwide this week. It grossed $22.5m internationally by my reckoning, beating TDKR which had $21.4m. It opened #1 in most markets apart from Argentina and maybe the UK, which seems odd as it was popular before.
Good start, not brilliant. Lets hope for second weekend totals that put it in a better light. Should be at $100m WW by that time.
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Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:33 am |
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Algren
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INTL: $22,560,030 WW: $53,943,529
After 3 days internationally in 16 confirmed markets (and 2 more suspected) and 4 days in the US.
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Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:15 am |
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Jack Sparrow
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That is definitely a much better number than I expected though still going with $150m OS.
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Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:00 am |
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Algren
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That will go up slightly because some of the numbers I have are estimates still, but it shouldn't change radically - only by a few hundred thousand.
Well, you are lowballing for sure. I would say your prediction is the low end. High end would be $280m. The goal is $274m though, for obvious reasons.
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Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:22 am |
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Jack Sparrow
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Let's see but my $150m OS and $70m domestic seems to be good as of now.
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Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:00 am |
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almost famous
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Joined: Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:09 pm Posts: 1461 Location: Odessa, Ukraine
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23,006,296 according to screendaily.
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Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:21 pm |
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Algren
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Thank you, indeed.
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Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:02 pm |
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Algren
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DOM: $34,614,144 INTL: $23,006,296 WW: $57,620,440
Not bad at all. Easily on course for $200M+. Got loads of markets left to open in and holdovers too.
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Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:04 pm |
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Jack Sparrow
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$200m WW was given since the day sequel was announced. Its the money above that which is the question.
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Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:57 pm |
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pepe pippen
The Dark Knight
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:25 am Posts: 769
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France
Expendables 2 (535) : 213 009 ADMISSIONS(27% over EXP1)
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Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:15 am |
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Algren
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I didn't even know it had opened in France. When was this?
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Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:37 am |
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pepe pippen
The Dark Knight
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Algren wrote: I didn't even know it had opened in France. When was this? Yesterday! 
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Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:41 am |
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Algren
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So those admissions are just for one day, Wednesday? Did the first one open on a Wednesday too? My French mates will be happy at the moment! 
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Dr. Lecter
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Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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I'm certain it will go up in Germany as well. Could become the first 18-rated movie to pass 1,000,000 admissions in many years.
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Thu Aug 23, 2012 12:57 pm |
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Algren
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If Russia is anything to go by, I think many territories could increase. It made almost the same as TDKR in Russia.
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Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:38 pm |
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Algren
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Could someone be a gem and tell me where it's opening this weekend? or indeed places that it opened during the week and this weekend will be its first full weekend?
thanks
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Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:59 pm |
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Algren
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Just heard some news, TE2 has a release date for China. It just says 2012年9月, which is basically 'some time in September'.
I hope this news is true.
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pepe pippen
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Algren wrote: Just heard some news, TE2 has a release date for China. It just says 2012年9月, which is basically 'some time in September'.
I hope this news is true. 9/17 is the release date in China.
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Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:58 am |
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Algren
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And how do you know that?
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baumer
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Hey algren. Nice to see you tracking the movie like you did before. I'm confident it will do well in many markets. I'm hoping this does 200 internationally. Russia, Mexico and France already look to be bigger and apparently there is a lot of buzz for it in China. So we'll keep our fingers crossed.
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Algren
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Hi Baumer. $200m internationally is definitey within reach. Even with disappointing markets like the UK and Netherlands so far. I don't know about the buzz in China, but I'll certainly be adding 10 ticket admissions to the pot, ha. I just hope that date is true.
I knew France would be well. The French fans have been digging this return. Russia and Mexico are purely down to the market expanding over the past few years, like China. Interesting one will be Japan for me, I hope they do promo there again.
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Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:13 pm |
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Algren
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I think I have to accept that it's heading for $70m tops in the USA. It opened only $7m shy of the first, but it's going to finish about $30m short of the first one in the end. Amazing really how well the first one performed. So if it makes $200m overseas, then its WW total will look identical to the first one. What it lost in one, it gained in another, and nothing changed.
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