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Oh yeah,

and I predict
Friday: 26 mil
Sat: 23 mil
Sun: 19 mil
68 million weekend




So, Is that how this works? You register, and get all the 1-day glory at your first prediction?

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DayAvatarReturn of the KingDead Man's ChestThe Dark Knight
Wed-$34,450,834
- / -
$34,450,834 / 1
--
Thu-$17,019,987
-50.6% / -
$51,470,821 / 2
--
Fri$26,752,099
- / -
$26,752,099 / 1
$21,811,549
+28.2% / -
$73,282,370 / 3
$55,830,600
- / -
$55,830,600 / 1
$67,165,092
- / -
$67,165,092 / 1
Sat$25,529,036
-4.6% / -
$52,281,135 / 2
$27,492,053
+26% / -
$100,774,423 / 4
$44,443,225
-20.4% / -
$100,273,825 / 2
$47,650,240
-29.1% / -
$114,815,332 / 2
Sun$24,744,346
-3.1% / -
$77,025,481 / 3
$23,326,111
-15.2% / -
$124,100,534 / 5
$35,360,729
-20.4% / -
$135,634,554 / 3
$43,596,151
-8.5% / -
$158,411,483 / 3
Mon$16,385,820
-33.8% / -
$93,411,301 / 4
$13,563,208
-41.9% / -
$137,663,742 / 6
$18,140,271
-48.7% / -
$153,774,825 / 4
$24,493,313
-43.8% / -
$182,904,796 / 4
Tue$16,086,461
-1.8% / -
$109,497,762 / 5
$12,476,242
-8% / -
$150,139,984 / 7
$15,731,919
-13.3% / -
$169,506,744 / 5
$20,868,722
-14.8% / -
$203,773,518 / 5
Wed$16,445,291
+2.2% / -
$125,943,053 / 6
$7,544,400
-39.5% / -78.1%
$157,684,384 / 8
$14,154,725
-10% / -
$183,661,469 / 6
$18,377,288
-11.9% / -
$222,150,806 / 6
Thu$11,150,998
-32.2% / -
$137,094,051 / 7
$13,986,220
+85.4% / -17.8%
$171,670,604 / 9
$12,358,033
-12.7% / -
$196,019,502 / 7
$16,464,405
-10.4% / -
$238,615,211 / 7
Fri$23,095,046
+107.1% / -13.7%
$160,189,097 / 8
$19,152,196
+36.9% / -12.2%
$190,822,800 / 10
$18,544,356
+50.1% / -66.8%
$214,563,858 / 8
$23,232,292
+41.1% / -65.4%
$261,847,503 / 8
Sat$28,274,406
+22.4% / +10.8%
$188,463,503 / 9
$17,249,267
-9.9% / -37.3%
$208,072,067 / 11
$24,846,771
+34% / -44.1%
$239,410,629 / 9
$28,272,494
+21.7% / -40.7%
$290,119,997 / 9
Sun$24,247,681
-14.2% / -2%
$212,711,184 / 10
$14,196,641
-17.7% / -39.1%
$222,268,708 / 12
$18,954,137
-23.7% / -46.4%
$258,364,766 / 10
$23,661,680
-16.3% / -45.7%
$313,781,677 / 10
Mon$19,418,139
-19.9% / +18.5%
$232,129,323 / 11
$10,052,588
-29.2% / -25.9%
$232,321,296 / 13
$7,912,691
-58.3% / -56.4%
$266,277,457 / 11
$10,518,116
-55.5% / -57.1%
$324,299,793 / 11
Tue$18,290,628
-5.8% / +13.7%
$250,419,951 / 12
$9,615,240
-4.4% / -22.9%
$241,936,536 / 14
$7,490,004
-5.3% / -52.4%
$273,767,461 / 12
$9,629,366
-8.4% / -53.9%
$333,929,159 / 12
Wed$18,466,123
+1% / +12.3%
$268,886,074 / 13
$7,509,391
-21.9% / -0.5%
$249,445,927 / 15
$6,448,468
-13.9% / -54.4%
$280,215,929 / 13
$8,755,141
-9.1% / -52.4%
$342,684,300 / 13
ThuEst. $14,925,000
-19.2% / +33.8%
$283,811,000 / 14
$12,784,656
+70.2% / -8.6%
$262,230,583 / 16
$6,468,103
+0.3% / -47.7%
$286,684,032 / 14
$8,402,546
-4% / -49%
$351,086,846 / 14

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mdana wrote:
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Avatar should be at 340 mil after 17 days. TDK of course made 400 mil in 17 days.

Avatar will only be 60 mil behind TDK after this weekend! TDK made 50 mil in its 4th week as a whole (from 18th day-24th day). Avatar SHOULD make 90 at the least.

Its a practical lock to catch TDK at this point. Avatar vs Titanic is the real debate



Huh?

You really think coming off an inflated week of "non"-holidays that Avatar will only drop from $127m to $90m, a 29% drop? I don't think so:

3rd Week to 4th Week drop

ROTK $68.14/$21.91m -67.8%
FOTR $49.65m/$22.81m -54.1%
Titanic $69.04m/40.41 -41.4%
The Prince of Egypt $26.29m/$8.51m -67.6%
You've Got Mail $30.5m/$12.6m -58.7%

FOTR really shouldn't be on this list because its 3rd week already included weekdays after Jan. 1. Some of the week day 60-70% drops were already part of its third week, so it didn't drop as hard. However, I just wanted to show that even under the most optimistic conditions for a 3rd to 4th week drop, anything under 50% is practically impossible. Avatar is starting to fall behind the pace of TPOE and YGM in week day gross as percentage of overall gross. They have had comparable runs off their OW, but Avatar has given up that lead from last week as well. I threw in Titanic to show how it has quickly fallen behind it as well.


OW multiplier for 1st 5 days gross

Avatar 1.42
Titanic 1.40
TPOE 1.36
YGM 1.31

5th day as % of total gross through 5 days

Titanic 14.9%
Avatar 14.7%
TPOE 14.5%
YGM 13%

OW multiplier for 1st 12 days gross
Titanic 3.64
TPOE 3.31
Avatar 3.25
YGM 2.99

12th day as % of total gross through 12 days

TPOE 8.5%
Titanic 7.7%
Avatar 7.3%
YGM 7.2%



Avatar's 3D screens have reached functional capacity. Finally, supply is overtaking demand at this point. Avatar had the worst drop in the top 10 outside of SH yesterday. It hit the iceberg yesterday.

I wrote this last week on BOM:

mdana1 wrote:
Let's compare Avatar to Prince of Egypt from 1998. Prince of Egypt made 58.2% of its seven day total over its first weekend. Avatar made 56.1% which is slightly better. Prince of Egypt dropped 1.9% its second Friday. Avatar depending on what the final for Friday ends up being will be drop around 10%. For the weekend Prince of Egypt increased 4.1% and Avatar looks to drop 5-10%. Prince of Egypt was able to make four times more what it made its first week. If Avatar did the same thing it would end up at $558m, but I think that is the absolute best case scenario and you are comparing a movie that increased its second weekend vs. a movie that dropped slightly. Also, TPOE increase almost 50% during its second weekdays. I don't see Avatar having $20m+ Mon-Thur.

If it does that then Titanic talk may commence immediately
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I don't see WOM of this movie better than The Departed, ROTK, TDK, or first POTC. Lastly, it is SF and that will limit its accessibility compared to a movie like Titanic.


http://www.boxofficemojo.com/forums/vie ... t=#2499271

It has not met the necessary conditions needed to get it past $550m, and is falling off even that pace. TPOE made almost 50% of its total by day 12. If Avatar does the same thing and remember it has fallen behind in terms of OW multiplier and current daily gross %, it would finish at $528.6m. Barring unforeseen holds in its 4th weekend which I doubt, but can't rule out, Titanic is just a mirage.

For me, the question is still if it can overtake TDK.




I am wondering... where did you get the 41.4% drop of Titanic from 3rd to 4th week? According to my numbers, Titanic only dropped 16.5% from week 3 to 4, and the averege drop for its entire run from week to week was 19.1% (after removing the outlier in week 31) What I am missing?

These data for Titanic's Box Office are taken from BOM:
Week Dates Box Office Difference Percentage
1 12/19/1997 -12/25/1997$52,969,336
2 12/26/1997 - 1/1/1998 $71,183,357 $18,214,021 34.4%
3 1/2/1998 - 1/8/1998 $45,012,810 $(26,170,547) -36.8%
4 1/9/1998 - 1/15/1998 $37,568,867 $(7,443,943) -16.5%
5 1/16/1998 - 1/22/1998 $42,626,796 $5,057,929 13.5%
6 1/23/1998 - 1/29/1998 $32,831,865 $(9,794,931) -23.0%
7 1/30/1998 - 2/5/1998 $32,134,797 $(697,068) -2.1%
8 2/6/1998 - 2/12/1998 $29,066,469 $(3,068,328) -9.5%
9 2/13/1998 - 2/19/1998 $38,131,241 $9,064,772 31.2%
10 2/20/1998 - 2/26/1998 $25,825,294 $(12,305,947) -32.3%
11 2/27/1998 - 3/5/1998 $24,200,714 $(1,624,580) -6.3%
12 3/6/1998 - 3/12/1998 $22,315,779 $(1,884,935) -7.8%
13 3/13/1998 - 3/19/1998 $23,481,767 $1,165,988 5.2%
14 3/20/1998 - 3/26/1998 $22,699,938 $(781,829) -3.3%
15 3/27/1998 - 4/2/1998 $18,824,028 $(3,875,910) -17.1%
16 4/3/1998 - 4/9/1998 $15,422,392 $(3,401,636) -18.1%
17 4/10/1998 - 4/16/1998 $12,363,764 $(3,058,628) -19.8%
18 4/17/1998 - 4/23/1998 $9,017,561 $(3,346,203) -27.1%
19 4/24/1998 - 4/30/1998 $6,047,868 $(2,969,693) -32.9%
20 5/1/1998 - 5/7/1998 $4,917,197 $(1,130,671) -18.7%
21 5/8/1998 - 5/14/1998 $3,959,752 $(957,445) -19.5%
22 5/15/1998 - 5/21/1998 $2,785,717 $(1,174,035) -29.6%
23 5/22/1998 - 5/28/1998 $4,248,586 $1,462,869 52.5%
24 5/29/1998 - 6/4/1998 $2,605,134 $(1,643,452) -38.7%
25 6/5/1998 - 6/11/1998 $2,429,418 $(175,716) -6.7%
26 6/12/1998 - 6/18/1998 $1,844,218 $(585,200) -24.1%
27 6/19/1998 - 6/25/1998 $1,633,956 $(210,262) -11.4%
28 6/26/1998 - 7/2/1998 $1,432,567 $(201,389) -12.3%
29 7/3/1998 - 7/9/1998 $945,021 $(487,546) -34.0%
30 7/10/1998 - 7/16/1998 $626,171 $(318,850) -33.7%
31 7/17/1998 - 7/23/1998 $2,605,789 $1,979,618 316.1%
32 7/24/1998 - 7/30/1998 $2,540,298 $(65,491) -2.5%
33 7/31/1998 - 8/6/1998 $2,022,007 $(518,291) -20.4%
34 8/7/1998 - 8/13/1998 $1,586,588 $(435,419) -21.5%
35 8/14/1998 - 8/20/1998 $1,210,134 $(376,454) -23.7%
36 8/21/1998 - 8/27/1998 $921,292 $(288,842) -23.9%
37 8/28/1998 - 9/3/1998 $432,673 $(488,619) -53.0%
38 9/4/1998 - 9/10/1998 $109,840 $(322,833) -74.6%
39 9/11/1998 - 9/17/1998 $79,689 $(30,151) -27.4%
40 9/18/1998 - 9/24/1998 $17,894 $(61,795) -77.5%
41 9/25/1998 - 10/1/1998 $4,473 $(13,421) -75.0%
Grand Total $600,683,057

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Friday- $25.0 mil

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Gamaur wrote:
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I don't see WOM of this movie better than The Departed, ROTK, TDK, or first POTC.


Are you fucking kidding??

that might have been a joke

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bloody hell, sorry I didn't keep up with the thread today all, still recovering from a wild new years eve.

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RankDays in ReleaseDay% ChangeDomestic TotalTheater AverageTheater CountDay, Month and Year
1Opening Day$26,752,099New$26,752,099$7,7503,452Friday, December 18, 2009
12nd Day$25,529,036-4.6%$52,281,135$7,3953,452Saturday, December 19, 2009
13rd Day$24,744,346-3.1%$77,025,481$7,1683,452Sunday, December 20, 2009
14th Day$16,385,820-33.8%$93,411,301$4,7473,452Monday, December 21, 2009
15th Day$16,086,461-1.6%$109,497,762$4,6603,452Tuesday, December 22, 2009
26th Day$16,445,291+2.2%$125,943,053$4,7643,452Wednesday, December 23, 2009
17th Day$11,150,998-32.2%$137,122,136$3,2303,452Thursday, December 24, 2009
28th Day$23,095,046+107.1% | -13.7%$160,189,097$6,6833,456Friday, December 25, 2009
19th Day$28,274,406+22.4% | +10.8%$188,463,503$8,1813,456Saturday, December 26, 2009
110th Day$24,247,681-14.2% | -2%$212,711,184$7,0163,456Sunday, December 27, 2009
111th Day$19,418,139-19.9% | +18.5%$232,129,323$5,6193,456Monday, December 28, 2009
112th Day$18,290,628-5.8% | +13.7%$250,419,951$5,2923,456Tuesday, December 29, 2009
113th Day$18,466,123+1.0% | +12.3%$268,886,074$5,3433,456Wednesday, December 30, 2009
114th Day$14,925,000-19.0% | +33.8%$283,811,000$4,3193,456Thursday, December 31, 2009

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Predict Avatanic's Thursday


MG Casey - 20.99m +14%
Jmovies - 20.56m +11%
BJs Prediction: 20.15m +9%
BennyBlanco - 20.0m +8%
Chip Munkington - 19.5m +5%
Soagg - 19.45m +5%
Mesjarch - 18.5m NC
LadiesMan217 - 18.2m -1%
Mark66 - 18,189,131m -1%
Telemachos - 18.0m -2%
Revatar - 17.96m -2%
Gamaur - 17.95m -2%
Mdana - 17.7m -4%
Xiayun - 17.0m -7%
Keyser Soze - 16.9m -7%
Captain_Cold - 15.9m -13%

Average: 18.55m NC

close the winner is Captain_Cold or should we say Bold with the lowest posted prediction, congrats :thumbsup:

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RankWks in ReleaseWknd% ChangeDomestic TotalTheater AverageTheater CountDay, Month and Year
1Opening Wk$137,122,136New$137,122,136$39,7233,452December 18-24, 2009
12nd Wk$146,716,999+7%$283,811,000$42,4533,456 | +4December 25-31, 2009

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Predict Avatanic's Friday


BJs Prediction: 27.0m +80%
Revatar - 26.5m 78%
Captain_Cold - 26.0 +74%
Keyser Soze - 26.0m +74
Soagg - 25.5m +70%
Jmovies - 25.4m +70%
Chip Munkington - 25.0 +68%
LadiesMan217 - 23.8m +60%
Eventine 23,4m +56%
Mark66 - 22.725m +52%
Mesjarch - 22.0m +47%
Enki - 21.90m +47%

Average: 24.60m +65%

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Predict Avatanic's 3rd Wknd


EnKi - 81.5m +7%
BJs Prediction: 70.90m -6%
Mark66 - 68.055m -10%
Jmovies - 68m -10%
Captain_Cold - 68m -10%
Soagg - 66.9m -11%
BennyBlanco - 66.5m -12%
Xiayun - 64.5m -15%
DIB2 - 64.5m -15%
Eventine 63.8m -15%
LadiesMan217 - 64.3m -15%
MG Casey - 64m -15%
Keyser Soze - 62m -18%
Flava'd - 62m -18%
2001 - 61m -19%
Gamaur - 61m -19%
Mesjarch - 60.5m -19%
Solas - 60.5m -19%
Lotan - 60.0m -20%
Revatar - 58.67m -22%
Telemachos - 57m -24%
Chip Munkington - 56.8m -24%


~Average: 63.59m -15%

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Predict How Many Days it will take Avatanic to Reach 400m
Enki - 21
-BJ - 22
-DIB2 - 22
-Captain_Cold - 22
Soagg - 23
-Mark66 - 24
-Rev - 24

Predict How Many Days it will take Avatanic to Reach 500m
Enki - 29
-Soagg - 31
-BJ - 33
-DIB2 - 35
-Captain_Cold - 36
-Rev - 38

Deadline for 400m will be on Monday, Jan 4 2010, as always, post your prediction for a chance at one day of predicting glory :thumbsup:

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BJ wrote:
Domestic Total:

Mr. Blue - 120m | multiplier - 4.80
LadiesMan - 160m | multiplier - 4.57
Excel - 200m | multiplier - 4.44
Kris K - 210m | multiplier - 3.00
Nebs - 228.1m | multiplier - 3.84
Zingy - 234m | multiplier - 3.60
BK - 235m | multiplier - 3.61
MG Casey - 235m | multiplier - 5.00
Archangel - 240m | multiplier - 3.69
Tuukka - 240m | multiplier - 4.00
2001 - 250m | multiplier - 4.55
Madgez - 260m | multiplier - 4.56
したい - 265m | multiplier - 4.82
Neo_Wolf - 270m | multiplier - 4.35
Mr. Lobotomy - 274.25m | multiplier - 4.27
KC - 275m | multiplier - 4.44
billybobwashere - 285m | multiplier - 5.18
Jon - 295.5m | multiplier - 5.54
Dr. Lecter - 303m | multiplier - 4.97
Magnus - 300m | multiplier - 5.00
The Dark Shape - 310m | multiplier - 4.77
Proud Ryu - 320m | multiplier - 4.06
O - 327.6m | multiplier - 5.60
Telemachos - 340m | multiplier - 4.20
Nazgul - 350m | multiplier - -
Xiayun - 350m | multiplier - 4.61
Justice - 377m | multiplier - 4.08
Chip Munkington - 415m | multiplier - 5.53
Flava'd - 420m | multiplier - 5.45

SolC9 - 459m | multiplier - 4.88
Keyser Soze - 475m | multiplier - 5.28
BennyBlanco - 501m | multiplier - 5.51
Gamaur - 510m | multiplier - 5.74
Rev - 600m | multiplier - 3.53
Mark66 - 625m | multiplier - 8.34
DIB2 - 670m | multiplier - 7.28
BJ - 811m | multiplier - 7.62

Average Domestic Total Prediction: 331.36m

Average Multiplyer: 4.82

only 8 of the first round predictors made it in without having to update in the 2nd round, congrats :good:

don't forget to get your predictions in, especially if you're past prediction was in the red. Those wit a strike through there name have predicted in round 2

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Predict Avatanic's Domestic Total: round 2 update #5


Proud Ryu - 450m
SolC9 - 459m
2001 - 470m
Archangel - 500m
BennyBlanco - 501m
Nazgul - 504m
Telemachos - 510m
BK - 525m
Keyser Soze - 525m
Tyler - 530m
The Dark Shape 540m
Eventine - 541.2m
Captain_Cold - 545m
Xiayun - 550m
LadiesMan217 - 565m
Gamaur - 575m
Chip Munkington - 601m
Soagg - 602m
Jmovies - 612m
Revatar - 612.5m
Mesjarch - 620m
Mark66 - 625m
DIB2 - 720m
Lotan - 770m
BJ - 811m
EnKi - 1.025b

Average Domestic Total Prediction: 583.80m

newly submitted are in bold, have fun all.

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Yahoo Update:

Avatar(Avatanic)

Yahoo Users: A (26,067 ratings) / A- from critics

#22 Top rated

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enjoy :shades:

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Reader Rating: A- (2,485 votes)

A's: 2,271 - 85.3%
B's: 195 - 7.2%
C's: 55 - 2.1%
D's: 30 - 1.1%
F's: 112 - 4.2%

Top Rated #3 top rated from readers
moved up to #2 top rated :D

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User Rating: 8.8/10 (98,572 votes)

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IMDB top 250 #26 on top 250

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peaked at #21 :happy:
slipped to #26

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Post Re: The Avatar(Avatanic) Prediction | Tracking Thread
What is your top choice to see this weekend (Jan. 1-3)?
60.3% Avatar
15.1% Sherlock Holmes
5.9% No interest this weekend.
4.0% Up in the Air
2.3% Nine
2.2% The Princess and the Frog
2.0% Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Squeakquel
1.9% Other
1.9% The Blind Side
1.3% New Moon
1.3% Invictus
1.3% It's Complicated
0.5% Did You Hear About the Morgans?
1,981 users polled. (This poll is now closed.)

first film to ever achieve 60% #1 choice in its third wknd.

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Post Re: The Avatar(Avatanic) Prediction | Tracking Thread
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Avatar should be at 340 mil after 17 days. TDK of course made 400 mil in 17 days.

Avatar will only be 60 mil behind TDK after this weekend! TDK made 50 mil in its 4th week as a whole (from 18th day-24th day). Avatar SHOULD make 90 at the least.



Titanic day 17 total $157,467,971
Titanic day 24 total $197,881,813

Those are the periods I was comparing.

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http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/new-y ... -domestic/

Avatar - 24M weekend estimates 58M.

Though these numbers seem pretty fast I think so when the real numbers come in it will be 1.5M more to match my numbers :)


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If Avatar really had a $24m Friday, then there's no way it's weekend total is only $58 M. It would be making on Saturday and Sunday less than it made on every other (non NYE) day this week.


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A $24m Friday should result in a weekend in the low 60's.

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Post Re: The Avatar(Avatanic) Prediction | Tracking Thread
Chrad wrote:
If Avatar really had a $24m Friday, then there's no way it's weekend total is only $58 M. It would be making on Saturday and Sunday less than it made on every other (non NYE) day this week.


Well Saturday's numbers are expected to go down in comparison to Friday and Sunday well that always goes down though that particular day Avatar has made all the predictors go wild eyes :zonks:


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Post Re: The Avatar(Avatanic) Prediction | Tracking Thread
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A $24m Friday should result in a weekend in the low 60's.


What number would have resulted in upper 60's?


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