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Flava'd vs The World wrote:

What to do, what to do? Strong arguments against The Weeknd, but it still doesn't feel right to take him out. I guess it still just comes down to my belief that R&B and pop just aren't different enough to fuss over. Prince I was cool with leaving out to begin with, but crossing him out will probably leave my soul forever cursed. I dunno, I now also agree with Shack that it'd be silly to have only one in, but removing both of them would be a double curse!

Enrique will be back in though. Promise.

What about Furtado or Avril? I figured they'd get stronger push back as they are there mostly because I like them more than the other alternatives. Yet everyone else also seems cool with em, which is absolutely fine by me.

Author:	publicenemy#1 [ Thu Jun 04, 2020 1:14 pm ]
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Pop 2 is my one of my favorite pop albums ever... but yeah, not that many people are big on her so whatevs lol

Author:	Mau [ Thu Jun 04, 2020 2:42 pm ]
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The weekned, post Maole, Usher are nowhere near pop as their core format shouldnt even be brought into consideration. Jsutin Timberlake shouldn't even be considered too. HE did pop with NSync then compltely went th R&B route, just cuz he's white doesn't mean he's pop

Author:	Flava'd vs The World [ Thu Jun 04, 2020 2:50 pm ]
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But here’s the thing, during the 90s and early 00s, pop was pretty much the same as R&B. Listen to some New Kids if you don’t believe. It wasn’t until late 00s that the 80s nostalgia wave hit and became the new standard for pop.

Author:	Shack [ Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:00 pm ]
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I have JT as a no brainer pop star, not sure where Mau is coming from on that I think it’s hard to say The Weeknd is pop but Prince isn’t. Likewise with Usher I can understand calling him pop, but the #1 genre when I think Usher is RnB. In fact he is one of the guys I associate most with RnB period. Should there be people on the list where their most associated genre isn’t pop? And if you’re worried about people losing every matchup, Enrique and Chris Brown are there despite likelihood they get trounced. Chris Brown in particular nobody wants to vote for that douche. I think J Lo or George Michael would do better.

Author:	Flava'd vs The World [ Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:14 pm ]
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I’m standing my ground on Usher for now though your points are beginning to persuade me. Chris Brown: I would definitely like to see him get his ass whooped by Rihanna, but yeah that is probably not a good reason to exclude someone more deserving. How about Chris Brown and Enrique for Prince and Jlo?

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Author:	Alex Y. [ Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:40 pm ]
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https://www.billboard.com/music/usher/chart-history/HSI In Hot 100, Usher had 9 #1, 18 top tens, and 51 charting songs. In Mainstream Top 40, he has 2 #1's, 16 top tens, and 28 top 40's. Half the other names on the list don't have as many pop hits as him. To remove him would be like removing Adele and Pink for dominating Adult Contemporary

Author:	stuffp [ Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:40 pm ]
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Sucks to have Enrique out...

Author:	stuffp [ Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:21 pm ]
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Fav group: B Least fav group: C

Author:	Jack Sparrow [ Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:30 pm ]
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I would back Enrique as well for inclusion.

Author:	Shack [ Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:23 pm ]
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Hard to kick anyone else out. I’d pick the Weeknd for genre reasons.

Author:	stuffp [ Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:38 pm ]
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I mentioned Robyn before and also Carly Rae only just squeaks in at best for me, didn't both have just like 1 hit only. I'm fine with excluding the The Weeknd also.

Author:	Jack Sparrow [ Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:05 am ]
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Me three for Weeknd

Author:	Alex Y. [ Fri Jun 05, 2020 1:03 am ]
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The Weeknd https://www.billboard.com/music/the-wee ... istory/HSI Hot 100 6 No. 1 Hits, 16 Top 10 Hit, 69 Top 100 Songs Mainstream Top 40 3 No. 1 Hits, 10 Top 10 Hit, 13 Top 40 Songs vs Enrique Iglesias https://www.billboard.com/music/enrique ... oard-200/2 Hot 100 0 No. 1 Hits, 3 Top 10 Hit, 14 Top 100 Songs Mainstream Top 40 1 No. 1 Hits, 7 Top 10 Hit, 25 Top 40 Songs vs Robyn https://www.billboard.com/music/robyn Hot 100 0 No. 1 Hits, 2 Top 10 Hit, 2 Top 100 Songs Mainstream Top 40 0 No. 1 Hits, 3 Top 10 Hit, 3 Top 40 Songs

Author:	Flava'd vs The World [ Fri Jun 05, 2020 1:06 am ]
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Robyn - Best Pop Album Ever. Ushered in the new era. Buzzworthy and internet breaking without needing any top hits. Carly - I will die and take you all with me before she is removed The Weeknd I’ll consider since there is so many against him. My main counterpart: who has been the biggest pop star of 2020 if not The Weeknd?

Author:	Flava'd vs The World [ Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:12 pm ]
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I also think I found a good way to give the voting time to breathe while also keeping the pacing fast. Day 1: Groups A and B have their first matches Day 2: Groups C and D have their first matches Day 3: Groups E and F have their first matches Day 4: Groups G and H have their first matches Day 5: Voting for Day 1 ends. Groups A and B have their second matches Day 6: Voting for Day 2 ends. Groups C and D have their second matches. And so on. That way it will take twelve days to get through round one (right?). Round two, the Championship round, will continue at four a day until a winner is crowned, with similar breathing time based on math I have not done yet.

Author:	Flava'd vs The World [ Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:07 pm ]
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Ok, though I strongly object, I will be democratic and respect the majority. The Weeknd is out. Prince gets his #2 seed. Enrique gets his original spot back. Also... I decided my juicy matchups style of grouping was also kind of unfair, so I used the site Random.org to redo them all! Let no one say that partisanship was responsible for skewing the results! Therefore... Group A Mariah Carey Justin Bieber Usher Carly Rae Jepsen Group B Beyonce Janet Jackson Jennifer Lopez Katy Perry Group C Madonna Prince Whitney Houston Kelly Clarkson Group D Adele Ed Sheeran Shakira Christina Aguilera Group E Michael Jackson Ariana Grande Enrique Iglesias Avril Lavigne Group F Rihanna Bruno Mars Kesha Nelly Furtado Group G Britney Spears Lady Gaga Miley Cyrus Lana Del Ray Group H Taylor Swift Justin Timberlake Pink Robyn Crap that ended up making it Alot harder for my favs. But fair is fair right?

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Author:	Mau [ Fri Jun 05, 2020 1:22 am ]
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Robyn stay solely on the fact Danicng on My Own exists if you dont like it then you are wrong. Also Enrique Iglesias is reaching. The Weeknd is not pop. PERIOD.

Author:	stuffp [ Fri Jun 05, 2020 1:31 am ]
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Flava'd vs The World wrote: Robyn - Best Pop Album Ever. Ushered in the new era. Buzzworthy and internet breaking without needing any top hits. Carly - I will die and take you all with me before she is removed The Weeknd I’ll consider since there is so many against him. My main counterpart: who has been the biggest pop star of 2020 if not The Weeknd? Weeknd isn't even in this top 10: https://www.ranker.com/list/best-pop-artists-2020/kareem-gantt I think a tough question is, who should replace him as a #2 seed then?

Author:	stuffp [ Fri Jun 05, 2020 2:21 am ]
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Flava'd vs The World wrote: How about Enrique for Prince? I feel this might actually be the error. The Weeknd makes more sense to me than Prince, even if just for recency bias...and and even though Price had a bit of rivalry with #1 seed MJ, I just feel that's not enough reason to include him. Enrique back in for Prince please?

Author:	stuffp [ Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:41 pm ]
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April and Furtado were both really big for a while, I think they could both be deserving to be in. However I personally would not like to lose Furtado and am cool with Avril being left off.

Author:	Mau [ Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:13 pm ]
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Flava'd vs The World wrote: What to do, what to do? Strong arguments against The Weeknd, but it still doesn't feel right to take him out. I guess it still just comes down to my belief that R&B and pop just aren't different enough to fuss over. Prince I was cool with leaving out to begin with, but crossing him out will probably leave my soul forever cursed. I dunno, I now also agree with Shack that it'd be silly to have only one in, but removing both of them would be a double curse! Enrique will be back in though. Promise. What about Furtado or Avril? I figured they'd get stronger push back as they are there mostly because I like them more than the other alternatives. Yet everyone else also seems cool with em, which is absolutely fine by me. If you include the weeknd you would have to include Post Malone. Let's be real lol, Usher is a huge stretch but ok. But athe Weeknd?