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Author:  Flava'd vs The World [ Wed May 27, 2020 11:50 am ]
Post subject:  Is Karen racist?
Not Karen herself, who may or may not be, but the term itself.

Though I guess the real question is; is racism against whites still ok? And if so, is that hypocritical or could it lead to a world where hatewords don’t matter because they no longer have any effect?
Author:  Chippy [ Wed May 27, 2020 11:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Is Karen racist?
lolno
Author:  Shack [ Wed May 27, 2020 1:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Is Karen racist?
I think in the long run we should just start calling guys Karen too. The Amy Cooper situation was a conflict between black male Karen vs white racist female Karen. The guy was carrying dog treats even though he doesn't have a dog to lure dogs after he convinced their owners to put leashes on them. Max Karen right there.
Author:  Rev [ Wed May 27, 2020 2:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Is Karen racist?
no it's not.
Author:  Corpse [ Wed May 27, 2020 5:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Is Karen racist?
It's not racist, but some could being using it inappropriately, sure.

I use the name to label anyone, male or female, displaying privileged douche behavior. Just a few days ago I was curbside waiting on an order and this man was outside yelling at the restaurant staff walking the orders out to let her inside to order because it's "not their right" to not let her inside. That's a Karen.
Author:  i.hope [ Thu May 28, 2020 2:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Is Karen racist?
Isn't Karen a label for a white person who behaves like a spoiled drama queen, feeling entitled, and demanding others (often people of color) treat them like they are superior? The usage has a racial undertone. It describes a phenomenon that originates from a racist history of serfdom and slavery.

I agree with Magnus. The term itself is not racist.
Author:  Flava'd vs The World [ Thu May 28, 2020 2:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Is Karen racist?
Magnus wrote:

White X calls BlackX the n-word as way to establish the superiority of whiteness over blackness.

If Non-white X calls White X “Karen”, it’s being done to establish equality between the two by diminishing the self-believed superiority that white X has. Karen is not designed to lower the white X below the non-white X but to show that the white X is not superior to the non-white X.
Dunno if I agree (I voted maybe), but this is a strong argument.
Author:  Groucho [ Thu May 28, 2020 4:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Is Karen racist?
Dammit I hit the wrong one and it registered me as saying yes to #1. My fault; I read it too fast and thought "Is the stereotypical karen a racist person?" and not "Is the use of the term Karen racist?"

No, of course it isn't. You choose to act like a karen, no one forces you to say and do these stupid things. You're getting judged for being a karen-like person, not because you're white. Although while all whites are not karens, pretty much all karens are white. ;)
Author:  El Maskado [ Fri May 29, 2020 3:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Is Karen racist?
I would like to speak with a mod about the offensive term
Author:  Excel [ Fri May 29, 2020 4:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Is Karen racist?
'Karen' is really just a call-out to entitled women. It really could apply to a POC potentially. I have heard 'Chad' used in the same vain.

The N word or phrase white trash is different
Author:  El Maskado [ Fri May 29, 2020 4:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Is Karen racist?
Excel wrote:
'Karen' is really just a call-out to entitled women. It really could apply to a POC potentially. I have heard 'Chad' used in the same vain.

The N word or phrase white trash is different

Fix the drywall holes in your room Kyle
Author:  Flava'd vs The World [ Sat May 30, 2020 4:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Is Karen racist?
I sure picked the wrong week to start this discussion. :hahaha:
Author:  Mau [ Sat May 30, 2020 11:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Is Karen racist?
white trash is the equivalent of a young Karen.

and the term isn¿t racist at all.
Author:  Barrabás [ Sun May 31, 2020 1:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Is Karen racist?
Is Karen racist?

Kind of? It originated from a white woman on a TV show right? But I've seen it used quite a lot against anyone who has a "can I speak to the manager" attitude and that includes non-white people as well. I would say it's borderline.

Is racism against people ok?

Obviously not, wtf. No racism is ok period.
Author:  Excel [ Sun May 31, 2020 10:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Is Karen racist?
Magnus wrote:
Mau wrote:
white trash is the equivalent of a young Karen.

and the term isn¿t racist at all.


White trash is more about socio-economic status and it’s fairly bigoted because it does imply a inferiority to the persons worth.

The Central Park woman for instance would not be called white trash.


I have always associated white trash term with regards to character, not net worth.
Author:  El Maskado [ Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Is Karen racist?
Magnus wrote:
it is by definition meant to describe a poor white person. You are just using it incorrectly.

Not necessarily. A Karen tends to be a white women in her 30s and 40s in any social class who feels that she is entitled to any service while demeaning those she feels are beneath here. It also applies to busybodies who tend to stick their nose in other peoples business where no intended harm was meant or something very trivial. It could be like that incident where a family is having a BBQ at a park that disallows it after 6pm and you have thise entitled woman pull up her cell phone to rat them out
Author:  Darth Indiana Bond [ Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Is Karen racist?
I use to think Karen did not refer to race until recently.
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