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Jmart wrote:

It can be, and no doubt some will, but voting third-party (at least this year) is just fucking stupid. Gary Johnson is an idiot who makes Trump look like a political scholar. It also doesn't help that he's actually celebrated his idiocy with Dubya. I'm guessing Trump could name at least two political leaders outside of the US. And Stein is anti-vaccines. She's a doctor...

zwackerm wrote:

I don't know who I'm voting for yet, but I certainly will vote for whoever I think is best, not vote for Hillary just so Trump won't win.

Shack wrote:

Jmart wrote:

Unless it's mixing up lack of political skills with being dumb. He froze in front of the camera a few times, the brain does weird things when under pressure. The same is probably true of W. Bush and Palin to an extent, the track record of college eduction and being politically elected probably says more than them stumbling over words on TV. Overall Gary has political experience as governor of New Mexico (which did well under him I believe) and he appears to be a nice human being, I'd take that over Trump 100 times out of 10.

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June 6 -- Boosting his friend George W. Bush to reporters, Gov. Gary Johnson of New Mexico recalls a conversation they had at a conference on state government. ''George turns to me and says, 'What are they talking about?' I said, 'I don't know.' He said, 'You don't know a thing, do you?' And I said, 'Not one thing.' He said, 'Neither do I.' And we kind of high-fived".

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Then there was that time in June, when an aide directed Johnson to a room named for Harriet Tubman, and Johnson replied, “Who’s Harriet Tubman?”

Jmart wrote:

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http://mobile.nytimes.com/2000/07/28/op ... 0&referer=

Jmart wrote:

zwackerm wrote:

I don't know who I'm voting for yet, but I certainly will vote for whoever I think is best, not vote for Hillary just so Trump won't win.

How about that she's the best candidate? See? There ya go! Vote for her for that reason.

Honestly, I don't know how anyone could be undecided at this point. And if you're thinking of voting third party, just cut out the middle man and check next to Trump. Or stay home.

Libs wrote:

zwackerm, please do not vote for Donald Trump. Honestly.

zwackerm wrote:

And I honestly don't consider myself super politically read yet on this election, it's hard to find unbiased reporting on either candidate. If anyone could suggest objective resources for me, that would be helpful.

zwackerm wrote:

Honestly, Trumps' cons do outweigh Hillary's and I'll probably vote for her. But I really don't want to. But I probably will.

Most of my friends are aggressively liberal and their intolerance of Trump supporters honestly makes me sympathize for the GOP. Like, my other friend posted that he was supporting Trump on Facebook, and they all legitimately hate him now. I'm not going to vote for Trump for that reason, but the oppression Trump supporters face upsets me.

Libs wrote:

zwackerm wrote:

Probably because 75% (if not more) of Trump's supporters are bigots like he is? You shouldn't feel sympathy for them being persecuted, that's insane. And you shouldn't vote for Trump because you feel bad his supporters are being belittled for being, you know, racist.

zwackerm wrote:

but the oppression Trump supporters face upsets me.

zwackerm wrote:

Most of Trump supporters I talk to ignore the racism, and are just like "he speaks his mind!"

Author:	zwackerm [ Sat Oct 01, 2016 3:02 pm ]
Post subject:	Protest voting
Anyone who thinks 3rd Party voting is "protest voting" is stupid. You should vote for the best candidate. Does anyone here think voting for a 3rd party is protest voting?

Author:	BJ [ Sat Oct 01, 2016 3:21 pm ]
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lol

Author:	Jmart [ Sat Oct 01, 2016 4:00 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Protest voting
It can be, and no doubt some will, but voting third-party (at least this year) is just fucking stupid. Gary Johnson is an idiot who makes Trump look like a political scholar. It also doesn't help that he's actually celebrated his idiocy with Dubya. I'm guessing Trump could name at least two political leaders outside of the US. And Stein is anti-vaccines. She's a doctor... The country desperately needs a third party, but these two (along with Trump) shouldn't be allowed near a voting booth let alone be on the ballot. And I'm not the biggest Hillary fan either, but at this point, she could come out before the next debate and club a bunch of baby seals, moon everyone, and give everyone the double-finger, and I'd be perfectly fine voting for her. She'd still be the most qualified and presidential.

Author:	zwackerm [ Sat Oct 01, 2016 4:28 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Protest voting
I don't know who I'm voting for yet, but I certainly will vote for whoever I think is best, not vote for Hillary just so Trump won't win.

Author:	Dr. Lecter [ Sat Oct 01, 2016 4:32 pm ]
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And who are your options, zwackerm?

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Author:	Shack [ Sat Oct 01, 2016 5:21 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Protest voting
Jmart wrote: It can be, and no doubt some will, but voting third-party (at least this year) is just fucking stupid. Gary Johnson is an idiot who makes Trump look like a political scholar. It also doesn't help that he's actually celebrated his idiocy with Dubya. I'm guessing Trump could name at least two political leaders outside of the US. And Stein is anti-vaccines. She's a doctor... Unless it's mixing up lack of political skills with being dumb. He froze in front of the camera a few times, the brain does weird things when under pressure. The same is probably true of W. Bush and Palin to an extent, the track record of college eduction and being politically elected probably says more than them stumbling over words on TV. Overall Gary has political experience as governor of New Mexico (which did well under him I believe) and he appears to be a nice human being, I'd take that over Trump 100 times out of 10.

Author:	Rev [ Sat Oct 01, 2016 6:55 pm ]
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Vote for 3rd party is a vote for Trump

Author:	Groucho [ Sat Oct 01, 2016 10:11 pm ]
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We're going to get Hillary or Trump. There is no chance in this world or any other that Stein or Johnson will win, so voting for them is like not voting at all. There's nothing particularly honorable about throwing away your vote on someone who has no chance. Might as well write in "Mickey Mouse."

Author:	Algren [ Sat Oct 01, 2016 11:03 pm ]
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If undecided, don't vote. You'll only hate yourself afterwards when you realise you helped vote in the wrong one.

Author:	Jmart [ Sat Oct 01, 2016 11:08 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Protest voting
zwackerm wrote: I don't know who I'm voting for yet, but I certainly will vote for whoever I think is best, not vote for Hillary just so Trump won't win. How about that she's the best candidate? See? There ya go! Vote for her for that reason. Honestly, I don't know how anyone could be undecided at this point. And if you're thinking of voting third party, just cut out the middle man and check next to Trump. Or stay home.

Author:	Jmart [ Sat Oct 01, 2016 11:18 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Protest voting
Shack wrote: Jmart wrote: It can be, and no doubt some will, but voting third-party (at least this year) is just fucking stupid. Gary Johnson is an idiot who makes Trump look like a political scholar. It also doesn't help that he's actually celebrated his idiocy with Dubya. I'm guessing Trump could name at least two political leaders outside of the US. And Stein is anti-vaccines. She's a doctor... Unless it's mixing up lack of political skills with being dumb. He froze in front of the camera a few times, the brain does weird things when under pressure. The same is probably true of W. Bush and Palin to an extent, the track record of college eduction and being politically elected probably says more than them stumbling over words on TV. Overall Gary has political experience as governor of New Mexico (which did well under him I believe) and he appears to be a nice human being, I'd take that over Trump 100 times out of 10. Quote: June 6 -- Boosting his friend George W. Bush to reporters, Gov. Gary Johnson of New Mexico recalls a conversation they had at a conference on state government. ''George turns to me and says, 'What are they talking about?' I said, 'I don't know.' He said, 'You don't know a thing, do you?' And I said, 'Not one thing.' He said, 'Neither do I.' And we kind of high-fived". http://mobile.nytimes.com/2000/07/28/op ... 0&referer= And Quote: Then there was that time in June, when an aide directed Johnson to a room named for Harriet Tubman, and Johnson replied, “Who’s Harriet Tubman?” https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washin ... ent=safari He's dumb and he can't speak in public. Prime presidential material!

Author:	Caius [ Sat Oct 01, 2016 11:52 pm ]
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The one time the losertartans had a chance to earn a few votes, they had to nominate a stoner dipshit. Damn them.

Author:	Dr. Lecter [ Sun Oct 02, 2016 12:00 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Protest voting
Jmart wrote: Quote: June 6 -- Boosting his friend George W. Bush to reporters, Gov. Gary Johnson of New Mexico recalls a conversation they had at a conference on state government. ''George turns to me and says, 'What are they talking about?' I said, 'I don't know.' He said, 'You don't know a thing, do you?' And I said, 'Not one thing.' He said, 'Neither do I.' And we kind of high-fived". http://mobile.nytimes.com/2000/07/28/op ... 0&referer= Jesus...I don't even know what to say.

Author:	Corpse [ Sun Oct 02, 2016 10:51 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Protest voting
Many millennials are still going to support Johnson for the sole reason of "He's third party! Down with the two-party rigged system!". I know a lot of people who "support" Trump, Johnson or Stein for this very reason; it doesn't matter how uninformed and unqualified he, or any other third party candidates happen to be to many of them. It's perfectly fine to challenge the two-party system/establishment, it'd be for the better, but not when buffoons are your only choices that are exploiting you. Instead of voting for whoever because they're anti-establishment or third party, try to encourage establishing themselves and future candidates in the future as actual qualifying representatives of your vote. It's not going to happen overnight, but overtime, it can build into something more.

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Author:	zwackerm [ Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:56 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Protest voting
Jmart wrote: zwackerm wrote: I don't know who I'm voting for yet, but I certainly will vote for whoever I think is best, not vote for Hillary just so Trump won't win. How about that she's the best candidate? See? There ya go! Vote for her for that reason. Honestly, I don't know how anyone could be undecided at this point. And if you're thinking of voting third party, just cut out the middle man and check next to Trump. Or stay home. I might vote for her. I will probably decide day of. And I honestly don't consider myself super politically read yet on this election, it's hard to find unbiased reporting on either candidate. If anyone could suggest objective resources for me, that would be helpful.

Author:	Libs [ Sun Oct 02, 2016 12:10 pm ]
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zwackerm, please do not vote for Donald Trump. Honestly.

Author:	stuffp [ Sun Oct 02, 2016 1:13 pm ]
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Libs wrote: zwackerm, please do not vote for Donald Trump. Honestly. Amen.

Author:	MGKC [ Sun Oct 02, 2016 1:44 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Protest voting
zwackerm wrote: And I honestly don't consider myself super politically read yet on this election, it's hard to find unbiased reporting on either candidate. If anyone could suggest objective resources for me, that would be helpful. If you feel at all nervous voting for her, John Oliver did a great segment comparing her and Trump's "scandals": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1Lfd1aB9YI Obviously not objective, but his segments are always fact-based and well-researched for your typical political comedy show.

Author:	zwackerm [ Sun Oct 02, 2016 4:10 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Protest voting
Honestly, Trumps' cons do outweigh Hillary's and I'll probably vote for her. But I really don't want to. But I probably will. Most of my friends are aggressively liberal and their intolerance of Trump supporters honestly makes me sympathize for the GOP. Like, my other friend posted that he was supporting Trump on Facebook, and they all legitimately hate him now. I'm not going to vote for Trump for that reason, but the oppression Trump supporters face upsets me.

Author:	Libs [ Sun Oct 02, 2016 4:23 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Protest voting
zwackerm wrote: Honestly, Trumps' cons do outweigh Hillary's and I'll probably vote for her. But I really don't want to. But I probably will. Most of my friends are aggressively liberal and their intolerance of Trump supporters honestly makes me sympathize for the GOP. Like, my other friend posted that he was supporting Trump on Facebook, and they all legitimately hate him now. I'm not going to vote for Trump for that reason, but the oppression Trump supporters face upsets me. Probably because 75% (if not more) of Trump's supporters are bigots like he is? You shouldn't feel sympathy for them being persecuted, that's insane. And you shouldn't vote for Trump because you feel bad his supporters are being belittled for being, you know, racist. The psychopath in this video below (which happened last night at a rally in Pennsylvania, just after the NYT story broke) should not be president of the United States, under any circumstances.

Author:	zwackerm [ Sun Oct 02, 2016 4:33 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Protest voting
Libs wrote: zwackerm wrote: Honestly, Trumps' cons do outweigh Hillary's and I'll probably vote for her. But I really don't want to. But I probably will. Most of my friends are aggressively liberal and their intolerance of Trump supporters honestly makes me sympathize for the GOP. Like, my other friend posted that he was supporting Trump on Facebook, and they all legitimately hate him now. I'm not going to vote for Trump for that reason, but the oppression Trump supporters face upsets me. Probably because 75% (if not more) of Trump's supporters are bigots like he is? You shouldn't feel sympathy for them being persecuted, that's insane. And you shouldn't vote for Trump because you feel bad his supporters are being belittled for being, you know, racist. Well, I'm not. So don't worry. Most of Trump supporters I talk to ignore the racism, and are just like "he speaks his mind!" And "well Hillary disclosed confidential emails, she's a criminal."

Author:	Jmart [ Sun Oct 02, 2016 4:36 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Protest voting
zwackerm wrote: And I honestly don't consider myself super politically read yet on this election, it's hard to find unbiased reporting on either candidate. If anyone could suggest objective resources for me, that would be helpful. I'm not politically well-read at all either. This is more just common sense. zwackerm wrote: but the oppression Trump supporters face upsets me. Catches breath

Author:	Jmart [ Sun Oct 02, 2016 4:41 pm ]
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zwackerm wrote: Most of Trump supporters I talk to ignore the racism, and are just like "he speaks his mind!" Those kind of go hand-in-hand and are one in the same.

Author:	Libs [ Sun Oct 02, 2016 4:41 pm ]
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The oppression Trump supporters face (lol) is nothing compared to what most of these people want to do to anyone in this country who's not a straight white man.

Author:	Mau [ Sun Oct 02, 2016 7:15 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Protest voting
Ofc he is voting Trump. Because all gay, mexican, musulmin and pretty much everything but ehitr men meed to be nurned at the stake It's zwackerm, can we expect something else from him?