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Chippy
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 Weed.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/07/health/ch ... ?hpt=hp_t1There is going to be a show about it on CNN, this Sunday night. And after reading this story, I'm absolutely fascinated by it. I've known for a while that marijuana has a lot of health benefits and that by legalizing it, and taxing it, it can become a huge market and cut down on a lot of crime. Your thoughts?
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BJ
Killing With Kindness
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:57 pm Posts: 25035 Location: Anchorage,Alaska
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 Re: Weed.
weed = awesome yo
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Libs
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48678 Location: Arlington, VA
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 Re: Weed.
I am 100% in favor of legalizing pot everywhere although I don't partake myself.
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torrino
College Boy T
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 7:52 pm Posts: 16020
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 Re: Weed.
Weed is quite nice in moderation. Though, gotta be careful... It is so potent these days. One hit is usually enough.
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Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:47 am |
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68383
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 Re: Weed.
I really couldn't care, but I think it might lead to an even further slumped society.
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Mau
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Joined: Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:42 pm Posts: 16923 Location: Monterrey, Mexico
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 Re: Weed.
Weed is like the least dangerous drug ever
So i'm all for doing it.
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Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:19 am |
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Jiffy
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Joined: Sat Dec 18, 2004 2:27 pm Posts: 6153 Location: New York
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 Re: Weed.
Mau wrote: Weed is like the least dangerous drug ever I agree and it should be legal, but it doesn't do much for me.
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Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:01 pm |
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Libs
Sbil
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48678 Location: Arlington, VA
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 Re: Weed.
Jiffy wrote: Mau wrote: Weed is like the least dangerous drug ever I agree and it should be legal, but it doesn't do much for me. Same. I actually hate it personally, but don't mind other people doing it at all.
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Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:10 pm |
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neo_wolf
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 Re: Weed.
It's like how i feel about cigarettes, i don't like it but as long as people don't smoke it next to me then it's non of my business if they want to.
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Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:54 pm |
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Chippy
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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 Re: Weed.
Ew. Cigarettes should be illegal.
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Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:34 pm |
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Chippy
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 Re: Weed.
No way.
In order of danger (most to least):
1. Cigarettes 2. Alcohol 3. Weed
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Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:08 pm |
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Jiffy
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Joined: Sat Dec 18, 2004 2:27 pm Posts: 6153 Location: New York
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 Re: Weed.
Chippy wrote: No way.
In order of danger (most to least):
1. Cigarettes 2. Alcohol 3. Weed What about danger to innocent bystanders. I mean, I know secondhand smoke is a thing, but...
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Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:11 pm |
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Jiffy
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Joined: Sat Dec 18, 2004 2:27 pm Posts: 6153 Location: New York
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 Re: Weed.
Oh, what a coincidence that I should just happen upon this handy chart linked to in one of today's Cracked articles. 
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Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:26 pm |
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Chippy
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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 Re: Weed.
It would be nice if that chart said what the numbers meant.
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Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:40 pm |
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Chippy
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 Re: Weed.
From the CDC:
Alcohol related deaths per year, excluding homicides and accidents: 42,000 Total alcohol related deaths per year: 80,000
Tobacco related deaths per year: 440,000
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Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:45 pm |
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Chippy
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 Re: Weed.
It's kind of similar to the gun (tobacco)/knife (alcohol) argument.
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Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:47 pm |
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Jiffy
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 Re: Weed.
Chippy wrote: It would be nice if that chart said what the numbers meant. It's just a score on a scale of 0-100. Here is a link to the original study -- http://www.sg.unimaas.nl/_OLD/oudelezingen/dddsd.pdf
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Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:49 pm |
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Chippy
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Chippy wrote: From the CDC:
Alcohol related deaths per year, excluding homicides and accidents: 42,000 Total alcohol related deaths per year: 80,000
Tobacco related deaths per year: 440,000 Homicides (non-gun) per yer: 5,000 Gun homicides per year: 11,000
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Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:23 pm |
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Chippy
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 Re: Weed.
Excuse me for thinking death is far more serious than "harm".
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Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:26 pm |
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Chippy
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 Re: Weed.
You really don't. Not when the death outweighs the other by MILES.
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Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:37 pm |
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Jiffy
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 Re: Weed.
Another thing to consider is the fact that smoking does not negatively affect the quality of day-to-day life for you or those closest to you (until you get cancer ofc) to anywhere near the degree that inebriating substances will. There's a reason staging a "Tobacco Intervention" isn't really a thing.
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Chippy
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You're both fools.
Tobacco is the most dangerous thing in the country. And that's a fact. It kills more people, causes more harm and is EASILY the most addictive of any drug.
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Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:43 pm |
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Jiffy
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Chippy wrote: You're both fools.
Tobacco is the most dangerous thing in the country. And that's a fact. It kills more people, causes more harm and is EASILY the most addictive of any drug. I don't disagree with the first or last statements (though technically heroin is more addictive), the second one would be a value judgment, I guess.
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Chippy
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http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/08/health/gu ... ?hpt=hp_t1Quote: We now know that while estimates vary, marijuana leads to dependence in around 9 to 10% of its adult users. By comparison, cocaine, a schedule 2 substance "with less abuse potential than schedule 1 drugs" hooks 20% of those who use it. Around 25% of heroin users become addicted.
The worst is tobacco, where the number is closer to 30% of smokers, many of whom go on to die because of their addiction.
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Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:50 pm |
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Chippy
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All backed up by UK research.
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