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Mister Ecks
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 Let Tim Allen use the N-Word! But not "The N-Word". Quote: Comedian and actor Tim Allen is in a spot of bother this week. Specifically for telling the Tampa Bay Times that he should be able to say the n-word as much as he likes. "If I have no intent, if I show no intent, if I clearly am not a racist, then how can 'nigger' be bad coming out of my mouth?" asked Allen. The comic, who claimed to use the word regularly in his standup, added that "[the phrase] 'the n-word' is worse to me than nigger." African-American commentators politely but firmly disagreed. "Here's a general rule of thumb to follow when using the n-word for white people," said sociologist, author and radio host Michael Eric Dyson on MSNBC: "Never." I'm not black. Neither is Tim Allen. I can't speak for the black community, but I believe when a word carries that much weight, it's probably best that, when you're white, you don't pass off centuries of history just because you want to tell a joke with the N-word in it. Also, saying one is not racist doesn't necessarily ever mean one is not actually racist. I can't imagine a joke Tim Allen could write that would necessitate the use of the word and be funny.
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Re: Let Tim Allen use the N-Word! But not "The N-Word". Nigger.Nigger Nigger.
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Re: Let Tim Allen use the N-Word! But not "The N-Word". “What you gonna do, girl? Class girl? Where’s yo class?”
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Mister Ecks
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Re: Let Tim Allen use the N-Word! But not "The N-Word". Magnus wrote: My black friends hate it when people say "the n-word". They'd rather people just say it. I would agree with that, though it's not at all my place to agree or disagree. And it certainly doesn't mean that Tim Allen can say the actual word because he personally finds "The N-Word" more offensive. That's like saying "Well, if I rape AND kill this person, that's worse than just rape". I'm not trying to turn this into a race issue. It's more of a funny story about how Tim Allen is trying to be relevant in 2013.
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Re: Let Tim Allen use the N-Word! But not "The N-Word". I laugh at people who fear and avoid 'bad' words, for there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so.
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Mister Ecks
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Re: Let Tim Allen use the N-Word! But not "The N-Word". Argos wrote: I laugh at people who fear and avoid 'bad' words, for there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so. "There are no bad words. Bad thoughts. Bad intentions, and words." -George Carlin
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Algren
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Re: Let Tim Allen use the N-Word! But not "The N-Word". Nigger is one of my favourite words. Blacks don't like it when I use it, though. It's very odd how one word can get them so angry and in fits of rage. I laugh at them while they act like a toddler screaming and crying in order to get The Man's attention.
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Heinrich Himmler
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Re: Let Tim Allen use the N-Word! But not "The N-Word". do you meet a lot of niggers in china? or are you talking about online conversations?
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Algren
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Re: Let Tim Allen use the N-Word! But not "The N-Word". Heinrich Himmler wrote: do you meet a lot of niggers in china? or are you talking about online conversations? Loads of niggers in Guangzhou. _________________STOP UIGHUR GENOCIDE IN XINJIANG
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Re: Let Tim Allen use the N-Word! But not "The N-Word". Can we just throw Algren into a Racist Vortex along with Aaryn from Big Brother so they just disappear from the earth? It'd be lovely.
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Re: Let Tim Allen use the N-Word! But not "The N-Word". Mister Ecks wrote: Magnus wrote: My black friends hate it when people say "the n-word". They'd rather people just say it. I would agree with that, though it's not at all my place to agree or disagree. And it certainly doesn't mean that Tim Allen can say the actual word because he personally finds "The N-Word" more offensive. That's like saying "Well, if I rape AND kill this person, that's worse than just rape".I'm not trying to turn this into a race issue. It's more of a funny story about how Tim Allen is trying to be relevant in 2013. Love you X... but that doesn't make any sense at all. _________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Re: Let Tim Allen use the N-Word! But not "The N-Word". Also, Donald Glover has the best take on this.
Let everyone say it. Sure, we'll lose some people in the process, but we'll be better for it.
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Re: Let Tim Allen use the N-Word! But not "The N-Word". Note: I do not use derogatory words. Ever. I find it trashy.
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Re: Let Tim Allen use the N-Word! But not "The N-Word". I believe Allen is rebelling against a culture of fear and resentment over a word, a type of culture which results in an atmosphere which is not healthy for the state of race relations in America.
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Chippy
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Re: Let Tim Allen use the N-Word! But not "The N-Word". Like you give a shit about race relations.
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Mister Ecks
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Re: Let Tim Allen use the N-Word! But not "The N-Word". Chippy wrote: Mister Ecks wrote: Magnus wrote: My black friends hate it when people say "the n-word". They'd rather people just say it. I would agree with that, though it's not at all my place to agree or disagree. And it certainly doesn't mean that Tim Allen can say the actual word because he personally finds "The N-Word" more offensive. That's like saying "Well, if I rape AND kill this person, that's worse than just rape".I'm not trying to turn this into a race issue. It's more of a funny story about how Tim Allen is trying to be relevant in 2013. Love you X... but that doesn't make any sense at all. In my defense, it made perfect sense yesterday. Also, this is one of those few times where I can see Algren is just trolling for a response from us.
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Re: Let Tim Allen use the N-Word! But not "The N-Word". Like always.
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Re: Let Tim Allen use the N-Word! But not "The N-Word". Chippy wrote: Like always. Well yeah but it was more glaring here. You're not as sharp as normal, Algren.
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Re: Let Tim Allen use the N-Word! But not "The N-Word". Well ist not easy. Sometimes you are already a racist when you say black people. So I often use the word "Nubian". Most time I am long gone when people realize what I was talking about  _________________Libs wrote: FILMO, I'd rather have you eat chocolate syrup off my naked body than be a moderator here.
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Chippy
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Re: Let Tim Allen use the N-Word! But not "The N-Word". lol
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Re: Let Tim Allen use the N-Word! But not "The N-Word". I'll refer to Tim Allen as ex-crackhead to see how sensitive he is.
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Re: Let Tim Allen use the N-Word! But not "The N-Word". El Murato wrote: I'll refer to Tim Allen as ex-crackhead to see how sensitive he is. and I just read he got out early because he is a snitch. Whats wrong with all those Hollywood people? _________________Libs wrote: FILMO, I'd rather have you eat chocolate syrup off my naked body than be a moderator here.
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Re: Let Tim Allen use the N-Word! But not "The N-Word". Also, regular people.
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Algren
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Re: Let Tim Allen use the N-Word! But not "The N-Word". Just saw this and thought it was funny: Facebook wrote: So white people are not allowed to use the N-Word, but at least they can say things like "Thanks for the warning, officer" and "Hey dad". _________________STOP UIGHUR GENOCIDE IN XINJIANG
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Re: Let Tim Allen use the N-Word! But not "The N-Word". Words are only as powerful as you make them out to be. It's a heated topic but stance is somewhat a mix of Chippy's and David's as I still don't say nigger as I find it trashy, but forbidding the word from use makes it a more powerful word and if anything it worsens race relations at this point.
But then again we did vote for Donald Trump, so maybe we are not ready.
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